 What's The Difference Between Linux And Unix?!? |
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 Jan 9 2005, 09:59 AM
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Newbie [ Level 1 ]  Group: Members Posts: 9 Joined: 9-January 05 From: California, US Member No.: 2,063  |
are they even made by the same people...?
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Jan 9 2005, 12:22 PM
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Newbie [ Level 1 ] Group: Members Posts: 4 Joined: 9-January 05 Member No.: 2,066 |
actually.. if iam not wrong.. linux was made my linus trovaldos.. or something.. spelling is wrong
and unix.. dont know.. but they are from different people. ut many similarities.. in the commands!! |
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Jan 9 2005, 01:55 PM
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Member - Active Contributor Group: Members Posts: 80 Joined: 8-January 05 From: England Member No.: 2,047 |
Linux is a kernal, unix is a type of OS. Unix is a registered name so Linux cannot be described as a Unix OS however you will here linux described as a Unix like system. One thing to bear in mind is that Linux is NOT an OS it is just the kernal the GNU (recursive acronym for GNU's Not Unix) is what people often confuse as being 'Linux' this is however the command line and tools that interact with the Linux Kernal.
A Linux OS is called a distrobution and will include both the Linux Kernal and The GNU tools as well. Interesting Links: http://www.kernel.org/ http://www.gnu.org/ |
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Jan 9 2005, 02:27 PM
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Way Out Of Control - You need a life :) Group: Members Posts: 1,366 Joined: 14-September 04 From: Nottingham England Member No.: 570 |
Also, an interesting point to add. Unlike Unix, Linux isnt made by any company or single group of people.
Linus started the Linux Kernel, and ultimatly has the end say in what happens to Linux, however it is programmed by a global network of people who simply code for the fun of it. (Hackers) so yes... Linux is just a kernel. A kernel is the first thing loaded when you boot, it controll's all hardware, and contains all of your drivers. GNU is software, Like the C, C++, Assembly and other compilers, also libraries, and other base things that run on top of the kernel. Then, there is software like X.org, the display server. X clients like KDE (one of the many available desktop environmetns for Linux) Linux and Unix share many similarities... For example, KDE, the graphical user environment will compile and run on both Linux, and UNIX. so some Modules of Linux, can infact be the same as Unix. What you guys Class FreeBSD / OpenBSD / NetBSD as ? they are more Unix like that Linux, but they dont class as Unix do they ? As for Unix itself... i dont think unix *IS* an operating system anymore... more of a class of OS's like IBS's Unix and Sun's Solaris is also Unix right ? |
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Jan 9 2005, 03:06 PM
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Member - Active Contributor Group: Members Posts: 80 Joined: 8-January 05 From: England Member No.: 2,047 |
The BSD's again run a different kernal and have a very different structure of workings than Linux, however they can not be called UNIX as Unix is a tradename it cost huge sums of money to describe and OS as unix. Therefore for OSS projects this is just not feasable.
This is quite ironic since Unix itself was started as a project in the 60's at Berkley (is this MIT i don't know) with AT&T and was always supposed to be open. When unix became a tradename that project turned into BSD which means Bearkly Service Distrobution. |
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May 16 2006, 11:48 AM
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Newbie [ Level 2 ] Group: Members Posts: 14 Joined: 16-May 06 Member No.: 13,474 |
well, here i would say something clear enough....
Unix was made by some company (dont remember) and it was not open...U wont get source..Latter Unix bought by SCO company.. even now they have.. Andrew Tenenbaum he was a professor and teaching Operating system and concepts but he was not able to give any examples.. So he develped his own OS called Minix.. It is open but not free Richard Stallmen (father of open source) want to give a free Operating system.. So started GNU/Hurd project.. even he itself says writting a kernel code is hard and difficult to debug so he started spporting tools like emacs, gcc and many more.. That time Linux Torvalds was doing his college project.. he is good enough in assemply and little C that time ( i mean before having idea of Linux).. So slowly he wrote a file system and other things... Both Minix and Linux taken the idea from Unix not the source... like everything will be handled like a file... after realeasing the linux offcial version(1.o or latter dont remember) BSD OS came.. many ppl like it then linux they want to go to that... but they dont update ur patches like what linux does.. If u find really something needed for linux write your own patch submit to liunx. Linus will upgrade it and release in next version.. But this is not the case of BSD they dont accept patch so it was failed.... so latter Linus inself was not so much interested to get GPL License for his kernel but he put another condition no one should use Linux in any money related issues... so even the disk seller faced problems.. so finally linux incorporated GPL for Linux and it is called GNU/Linux... The Richard Stallemn want to rename it like LIGNUX but no one likes it ... that is different story.... well i thing this is enough........ some interesting things are there i will tell u latter........ or in separe thread..... |
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May 17 2006, 10:27 PM
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NiGHTFoX - Hiding in the dark Group: Members Posts: 680 Joined: 3-April 05 Member No.: 3,584 |
QUOTE(kalyan @ May 16 2006, 07:48 AM)  well, here i would say something clear enough.... Unix was made by some company (dont remember) and it was not open... I think it was originally developed by AT&T (yes the phone company) and then at some point I think was sold to Novell and then Novell sold it to SCO. And to this day, I don't think that UNIX is free but you can purchase the source code as well. [N]F |
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May 18 2006, 10:52 AM
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Hedonist at large Group: Members Posts: 610 Joined: 30-July 05 From: another realm Member No.: 7,524 |
QUOTE And to this day, I don't think that UNIX is free but you can purchase the source code as well. I'm yet to see my first Unix operated comp. I've seen GNU/Linux, Solaris and BSD, but not a single system running plain old-fashioned Unix in my univ. Great discussion going on here. Lots of things that I didn't know  .
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May 19 2006, 02:33 AM
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Colonel Panic  Group: [MODERATOR] Posts: 2,734 Joined: 25-March 05 From: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Member No.: 3,233 |
actually the Japanese Earthquake Centre uses Solaris to power their workstations. Solaris still uses the old UNIX standards, System-V. Not only does it support the old UNIX standards, but it also support the newer one, POSIX which Linux, BSD and other UNICES are all compatible with.
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Jan 1 2008, 06:53 AM
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Newbie [ Level 1 ] Group: Members Posts: 0 Joined: 1-November 07 Member No.: 25,869 |
difference between unix and linux
What's The Difference Between Linux And Unix?!? I want to know the basic and major difference between unix and linux in detail -Devesh |
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