 My Website Is Still Not On Google, will registering a domain help? |
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 Aug 5 2005, 05:51 PM
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Premium Member  Group: [HOSTED] Posts: 369 Joined: 28-April 05 From: Salt Lake City, Utah Member No.: 4,500  |
Sorry to repeat an old topic, but I haven't made any progress.
It has been several months and despite several attempts to get my web site on google. Nothing. I am pretty sure if it was hosted at my old university the site would be on google within a week. My old outdated university website which I no longer have any control over is still there on google. In a few days I will be presenting my physics of space flight simulator at a conference of the American Association of Physics Teachers. I would really like to make some progress on this problem. I am now considering registering a domain name. The question is, will that help at all? I would really appreciate someone checking the website html if you think the problem is there. Or any other help? I have already tried submitting it to google and to some other topical listing sites months ago. |
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Aug 5 2005, 10:21 PM
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Member [ Level 2 ]  Group: Members Posts: 65 Joined: 28-July 05 Member No.: 7,488 |
First of all, here's the the link to the page where you can add your site's URL to Google. You may have already done this, I don't know, but it's well worth repeating in case you haven't. Still, like Google says on that page, there are no guarantees if or when your page will appear on their searches.
Now, on to the real problem. Or at least the more serious one. I did some checking of your HTML code, and there were some very... glaring mistakes there. First of all, you don't have any opening and closing <html>...</html> tags at the beginning and end of your document, as well as some other important tags. When I saw the missing tags, I thought it might have been something on my browser's end (I use Firefox), but it's the same when I view the page in Internet Explorer. It's a wonder that the browser was able to render your page at all! Since your tags are misplaced, your meta tags which would have helped put your webpage in search engines have been rendered useless. I wish I could go more into it, but unfortunately I have very little time remaining to stay online at the time of this writing. So, I would suggest you brush up on your HTML — there are some excellent online tutorials such as can be found on w3schools. Hope this helps! I'll try to get back later if I can to help out more fully. Edit: Just fixed some minor typos — nothing major. |
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Aug 5 2005, 11:21 PM
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Super Member Group: Members Posts: 572 Joined: 25-April 05 From: Nashville Tennessee Member No.: 4,340 |
I also noticed a lack of the opening and closing HTML they are simply not there...I guess the reason for XHTML the page would not and will not display using XHTML standards which will become common soon.
I believe that if this is corrected and the meta which is in fact there were tweaked al little bit he would in fact be listed, but as far as the bot is concerned it is a non existant page because it doesn't follow XHTML rules. Get HTML Kit or some other eidtor and run HTML Tidy on that site and it will correct the page or pages to at least where a bot can see it. By the way I trained pilots and aircrews with flight similators for the A7E and S3A aircraft back in the 1970's and was considering a job as an instructor for the Space Shuttle even before the first flight...did not do that just went home and became a data tech and electrician. Loved my similators though, we kinda played a lot of games and pushed the envelope of the crafts and condidtions, it was really great fun as a job! |
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Aug 6 2005, 01:37 AM
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PsYcheDeLiC dR3aMeR  Group: Admin Posts: 2,242 Joined: 29-January 05 From: Nakorn Chaisri, Thailand Member No.: 2,411 |
You need to do something in a hurry - go to Gotlinks.Com or some similar Links Exchange site and add your site to their directory. Then create some blank page in your site (linked from your index.html) and embed the link that gotlinks gives you in that page.
I did this and my page had come up in the listing to the second results page on google within 3-4days (there were about 800-900 sites linking back to me). Also goto some MetaTag analyzer page and check out how your page meta tags evaluate against the content and title of your page. These are two prime determinant factors... there of hundreds of others too - but I'm no guru at SE optimizing your pages.. OpaQue's the pro at it. You should ask him. Regards, m^e |
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Aug 6 2005, 02:31 AM
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Absolute Newbie Group: Admin Posts: 887 Joined: 20-February 05 From: Indianapolis, Indiana, USA (Midwest) Member No.: 2,714 |
The first thing to explain is that your HTML writing skills are of absolutely no concern to the Google indexing spider. It is looking at the text portion and links of your website only.
You can write your page in only the most basic HTML and the spider will be even more likely to index you properly. Next, in order for your website index.html to be listed on Google, it will need a link from another web page. The better the web page that links to you, the higher up in relevence you will be listed. Your old site probably did do well and here is why. Because you were hosted on the university server and probably listed somewhere on there homepage list, your site was linked to by a very high ranking website. University websites tend to be high ranking. Additionally, each page is ranked individually so being linked on the worst page of a high ranking website doesn't help. Also, how are you searching for your site on Google? My site will not show if I search for the URL on Google but if a search for a unique keyword that appears on my website, Google will list it. Also, if I search for the topic of my website, several thousand results are shown but I have never read down the list far enogh to find my site. Remember that the spiders are looking for completely different than your visitor want to see. Meaning, spiders look for text and link content while users want flashy graphics and neat features. The spiders find you by following links on other sites. Being listed on other sites is the best way to boost your site listing in Google. vujsa |
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Aug 6 2005, 03:34 AM
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Premium Member Group: Members Posts: 385 Joined: 13-October 04 From: Ontario Member No.: 1,175 |
WELL, since nobody mentioned the more obvious of problems...And I may be missing something here.
But as far as I know, almost EVERY websearch bot looks for this file: robots.txt This tells the bot what it can and cannot index. Not sure if it will help much, but I'd give it a shot. Link to know everything about robots.txt: http://www.robotstxt.org/wc/norobots.html Also, he's a link to a site which should help you do what it takes to get your website into a search engine. http://www.internet-marketing-mm.com/searc...e-friendly.html |
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Aug 6 2005, 08:55 PM
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Super Member Group: Members Posts: 572 Joined: 25-April 05 From: Nashville Tennessee Member No.: 4,340 |
This is the source from the page in question minus many noncritical parts:
CODE <meta name="keywords" content="relspace physics relativity simulator space flight relativistic black hole galaxy galactic star cluster simultaneity"> <meta name="description" content="shareware educational simulator called relspace demonstrating special and general relativity on the stage of nearby planetary, stellar and galactic space"> <head> </head> <body background="images/image001.jpg"> <a href='http://directory.astahost.com/Astahost-Member-Pages/' > Astahost Forums Directory</a > </center> </body> I took out most of the body but the rest is as is... no opening <html> or closing </html> and there are no commas even with robots.txt it couldn't index the page because it is not valid HTML much less XHTML QUOTE relspace physics relativity simulator space flight relativistic black hole galaxy galactic star cluster simultaneity to a robot is one word and will never be searched for... or am I way out in left field?I did correct the problem and even emailed it to the originator but have not recieved a response, but at least add the html open and close tags and insert commas between keywords. I even included each keyword capitalized just as insurance and out of habit. |
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Aug 6 2005, 09:01 PM
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Newbie [ Level 2 ] Group: Members Posts: 11 Joined: 6-August 05 Member No.: 7,669 |
QUOTE(spacewaste @ Aug 6 2005, 05:34 AM) ... But as far as I know, almost EVERY websearch bot looks for this file: robots.txt This tells the bot what it can and cannot index. Not sure if it will help much, but I'd give it a shot. Link to know everything about robots.txt: http://www.robotstxt.org/wc/norobots.html The trouble with the robots.txt standard is that you can't tell if a webcrawler or searchbot is actually doing what you prescribe. So instead of ignoring those folders that you specify as disallow, it might just do the opposite. This also is true for hackers or other people with lesser intentions. |
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Aug 7 2005, 09:10 PM
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Premium Member Group: [HOSTED] Posts: 369 Joined: 28-April 05 From: Salt Lake City, Utah Member No.: 4,500 |
Thank you everyone (Hraefn, Houdini, microscopic^earthling, vujsa, spacewaste, dukdalf) for your time, help and comments. Unlike most people on this forum I have never made a great deal of effort to learn html. So I apologize for being such a dunderhead. It looks like there were possibly overlapping reasons for not getting onto google. A misunderstanding of robot.txt function being one of them. But I ran the HTML Kit TIDY and fixed the html code as well according to all of your collective suggestions. And now I will try the Google link again, and I will try Gotlinks.Com as well.
Thanks again. |
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Aug 13 2005, 03:35 AM
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Premium Member Group: [HOSTED] Posts: 369 Joined: 28-April 05 From: Salt Lake City, Utah Member No.: 4,500 |
My web page finally made it onto google. Thanks for all the help.
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