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 Jan 24 2005, 01:47 PM
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Member - Active Contributor  Group: Members Posts: 80 Joined: 8-January 05 From: England Member No.: 2,047  |
Does anyone have any advice regarding using virtual machines, i know of VMware however have never used it and i know there is a M$ one which i have never used either (i don't even know what that is called). Can someone please reccomend one for use in windows XP to install windows server 2003 on please.
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Jan 24 2005, 05:51 PM
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Way Out Of Control - You need a life :) Group: Members Posts: 1,366 Joined: 14-September 04 From: Nottingham England Member No.: 570 |
QUOTE(pixelsmack @ Jan 24 2005, 02:47 PM) Does anyone have any advice regarding using virtual machines, i know of VMware however have never used it and i know there is a M$ one which i have never used either (i don't even know what that is called). Can someone please reccomend one for use in windows XP to install windows server 2003 on please.  you need Vmware for windows. But wouldnt you be far better of Dual Booting ? cheaper, and better performace than VirtualPC. |
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Jan 24 2005, 06:03 PM
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Member - Active Contributor Group: Members Posts: 80 Joined: 8-January 05 From: England Member No.: 2,047 |
yeah, it would probably be easier to dual boot. i hadn't thought of that!
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Jan 24 2005, 08:18 PM
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Member [ Level 1 ] Group: Members Posts: 37 Joined: 24-January 05 Member No.: 2,319 |
I use bochs to debug my program.
But it is too slow to install windows with bochs for common user. If you do not want to pay for it ,qemu(GPL-2 LGPL-2.1) will probably be a good selection. http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/qemu/ |
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Jan 25 2005, 03:27 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 145 Joined: 13-December 04 Member No.: 1,734 |
QUOTE(qwijibow @ Jan 25 2005, 01:51 AM) you need Vmware for windows. But wouldnt you be far better of Dual Booting ? cheaper, and better performace than VirtualPC. if you r going to stick to the installed OS, then Dual Booting is fine. But if you are going to try many OS, then i'll suggest that you use Vmware. why? 1. has networking support to the host pc and its LAN (if avaliable) 2. the installed OS can be transfered anywhere!. transferring OS is just the same as copying ordinary files!. 3. no need for re-partitioning! but, you must also know that using a simulator like Vmware will cause performance drop to the OS. |
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Jan 25 2005, 04:38 PM
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Way Out Of Control - You need a life :) Group: Members Posts: 1,366 Joined: 14-September 04 From: Nottingham England Member No.: 570 |
QUOTE 2. the installed OS can be transfered anywhere!. transferring OS is just the same as copying ordinary files!. bad idea. might work for windows, but will cause havok with proper OS's if not done correctly. make sure you coont do somthing stupid like copy virtual folders. make sure you preserve permissions. make sure to reset driver configureation, or remove all driver configuration and enable coldplug. |
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Jan 25 2005, 05:17 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 145 Joined: 13-December 04 Member No.: 1,734 |
QUOTE(qwijibow @ Jan 26 2005, 12:38 AM) bad idea. might work for windows, but will cause havok with proper OS's if not done correctly. make sure you coont do somthing stupid like copy virtual folders. make sure you preserve permissions. make sure to reset driver configureation, or remove all driver configuration and enable coldplug. i dont understand. please give more details for these lines... QUOTE make sure you coont do somthing stupid like copy virtual folders. QUOTE make sure you preserve permissions. QUOTE make sure to reset driver configureation, or remove all driver configuration and enable coldplug.
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Jan 25 2005, 09:40 PM
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Way Out Of Control - You need a life :) Group: Members Posts: 1,366 Joined: 14-September 04 From: Nottingham England Member No.: 570 |
what im saying is... By Default, the copy command does not preserve permissions, and special setting like SUID. same with Tar.
Also, if you backup folders like /dev/ or /proc or /sys/ you might get some very strange results ! Also, driver settings. it just maks it abad idea to install an OS on virtualPC, and move ot onto a real root raprtiton and epect it to works. |
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Jan 26 2005, 02:10 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 145 Joined: 13-December 04 Member No.: 1,734 |
QUOTE(qwijibow @ Jan 26 2005, 05:40 AM) what im saying is... By Default, the copy command does not preserve permissions, and special setting like SUID. same with Tar. Also, if you backup folders like /dev/ or /proc or /sys/ you might get some very strange results ! Also, driver settings. it just maks it abad idea to install an OS on virtualPC, and move ot onto a real root raprtiton and epect it to works. LOL!  Clearly, you never used VMWARE before. althought, your posts contains new things for me and i apprichiate that... thank you, you are so informative and experienced. but you nvr tried Vmware. for more info about vmware, goto: http://www.vmware.com/ i believe, it supports winNT family and linux. anyway, what i mean is that the installed OS can be copied to other machine and re-implement it at other host as another virtual machine, not to a new partition. sometimes, it is useful, for example, you want to backup the OS incase the OS you are using now might get ruin, or your friend also wanted the same OS into his Vmware without having to go through the OS installation process. ps: i m sory, my english is not very good, i hope you can understand me 
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May 4 2005, 11:49 PM
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Newbie [ Level 2 ] Group: Members Posts: 25 Joined: 4-May 05 Member No.: 4,731 |
the best is VMWARE
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