Well, I am a big fan of CSS, especially how you can create beautiful effects with it, without the use of JavaScript, which is turned off by a lot of surfers because of security holes. (From what I heard ) Now my leading example is Eric Meyers and Eric Costello.

Eric Meyers' css/edge pages Check with any browser but IE
Eric Costello's glish

Now when you look at MeyerWeb, you'll notice some really nice effects (if you checked it with a NON IE browser. I would love to reproduce something similar, but am absolutely stunned that IE doesn't display this correctly.

Yes, I hear you say "use the IE hacks", but here's my issue...

Quote taken from http://www.glish.com/css/hacks.asp

What about pre-IE5? I have friends with Win98Se... how about them? Because I don't think they have IE5 (or does Win98Se have that??)

Any suggestions? Comments? Anything? LOL Maybe I just needed to vent about that annoying IE CSS thing Why doesn't M$ incorporate correct handlings for ALL CSS, like other Browsers do? I am quite sure that most Linux and Mac Browsers DO show the page as it was meant (of course I can not check this since at the moment I am only running Win 2000 Pro)

What part of that layout do you want to reproduce? All of it or just the hover links or background image.

I have to agree with you though on the wonders of CSS, there is just so many things achievable with CSS including the amazing drop down menus. Yet sadly I have to double my time finding ways to fix my layout for I.E.

There are good articles around by Sons Of Suckerfish, that try to recreate CSS tags like Hover so that they function correctly in I.E. the problem is they do use some javascript but only a few lines.

The reason I use them is because if someone is smart enough to turn off Javascript as they know about security holes, then they are smart enough to know to get a better browser than I.E. because it's security is very low. So accounting for Javascript hacks to those people who have I.E. will make the page work for more people, but I try to keep it to a minimum so mostly everyone can see some aspect of my page.

I have seen many codes to fix things up in I.E. so i'll try my best to locate a 100% compatible way for doing what you'd like to be done.

That's kinda funny. I'm trying to create my website with CSS and It looks OK in everything but IE. IE6 I get an menu error (space glitch) and in IE5 none of the formats work and site liiks like one big list

I'm not a big fan of IE but 95% of the browsers that come to the website we have at work are IE so I guess I still have to code for that. I wish IE could be compliant and up to date, it would make the code so much cleaner.

Nils