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#1 OpaQue

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Posted 05 February 2005 - 03:51 AM

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BEFORE READING, PLEASE NOTE THAT, THIS MESSAGE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH OUR FREE HOSTING COMPANY (ASTAHOST). IT IS ONLY FOR REQUESTING SOME SUGGESTIONS FOR OUR OTHER COMPANY. ASTAHOST WILL ALWAYS CONTINUE TO PROVIDE ITS SERVICES AND WILL ALWAYS BE FREE AND WE DO *NOT* HAVE ANY INTENTIONS TO EARN FROM HOSTING BY ITS MEMBERS. ASTAHOST IS A MEMBER OF XISTO CORPORATION.

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Hello,

Most of you reading this message are talented web masters and I would like to have some suggestions from you regarding our Paid Hosting Site.

[ http://www.COMPUTINGHOST.com ]

OR

[ http://www.COMPUTING-WEB-HOSTING.com ]

Our Paid Hosting site ComputingHost is one, who is responsible for paying bills for this Free Hosting site. I would sincerly life to have some suggestions regarding, how can can improve it further.

We have a lot of expereience and contacts in the field of web hosting and hence we ve been providing paid hosting to hundereds of satisfied customers. However, We feel that the number of people who come to our site, dont click the Order Button.

Kindly visit our site and give us your opinions, Suggestions, Comments etc. Please tell us, what is the main thing that would provogate you to Order from this site. What would you had done, if this site was yours. Tell us the thoughts that come to your mind after visiting this site.

Our PAID hosting accounts are hosted on Seperate Dedicated Server for Unmatched performance and uptime.

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Posted 05 February 2005 - 12:14 PM

Hey OpaQue,


Important things you're missing is content, especially explaining the services you provide. I would also increase the text size a bit, it's too small, doesn't stand out. I would also give interesting headings/phrases instead of the usual Welcome to Computing Host.

Maybe something along the lines of "If it's quality you want, then you want Computing Host", as an introduction instead, I just made that up by looking at your slogan and thinking it needed to be incorporated somehow, you can then later repeat this line within the content explaining what you do as I just noticed you have done in the paragraph.

Now what to say about what you do just to make more content, well if it were me, I'd say things about our great quality website hosting at affordable prices, maybe state where the hosted servers are located, then explain more about what the hosting comes with and advantages, talk about the web hosting manager like CPanel or whatever it is. Talk about everything you've said on the right hand side of the screen as what every customer can expect, all here in your main introductory. This main introduction is vital, it's the decision maker in whether we like you or we don't.

Colours used on the site, well, I'm not much into the light colours, but it is making the text harder to see, but it could be due to the smallness of the text but the light blue is definitely a problem. I would not over use Flash like that, it needs to be loaded everytime I changed to a different page, non-broadband people wouldn't be too impressed. Also the News, it's not interesting, informative, etc, spruce it up or remove it I suggest, there's a lot of technical jargon that people wouldn't understand, put it in simple but interesting terms, in fact you don't have to say that at all, just talk about power, speed, etc or explain the servers in terms of fast cars, like a Red Ferrari, give them imagination or comedy.

I believe black is better than dark grey (or any grey for that matter) as text colour too but that's my personal opinion, I'm not sure who else shares that idea.

I think you should state the currency used for the pricing of the plans. Most likely USD, but it's a waste of time for customers to email you asking if this is the case, more than likely they'd either assume that or not bother, it's also helpful especially for those who maybe interested and are from different countries and there are others around the world doing just this.

I would seriously look at other competitors in this area and see what they are doing, someone I can suggest you should check out, just for the basic ideas of what you site should have is http://aotea.net.nz/ just by visiting them, you can get an understanding of what they do. Now their site may not be flash, or that exciting but they list their key things at the top, especially what sells for them is their low cost plans. They also provide a lot of information, may not be relevent but it's factual and interesting to read.

I chose pointing you to them, because they have some ideas you really need to consider.

There is quite a lot more I would suggest, but in the end, a new site would be in order as I really do think Flash is not for everyone, nor is having sound on the site.

I might provide more information about what I would have done after there's more feedback on this.


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#3 OpaQue

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Posted 05 February 2005 - 06:24 PM

Thanks a lot, MC. I will start working on that right away..

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Posted 10 February 2005 - 02:35 AM

But please, PLEASE, don't make the text color some ugly white on black or similar. Light blue may not be catchy, but at least it doesn't burn.

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Posted 10 February 2005 - 04:48 AM

I very much support what mastercomputers is saying. I think there is too much information crammed into one page, hence the small type. I like to think simple and get the message out, like movie trailers. Create an intro page with highlights of your best quality and features with links to the more technical information. I like to think simplicity is the key ingredient to a web page.

Gif animations are friendlier than flash because they donít need a plug-ins and will display on any browser. But I will not use too much animations or graphics to create distraction. I also like uniformity in a page design and thinks it make a site look more professional. In American business politics comparison to other competitors that you beat hands down make good reference material. ;)

#6 OpaQue

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Posted 11 February 2005 - 12:00 AM

The site which MC had checked had all those text on the main page. I have however, changed it and added more pages of information.

I am still working on it.. :P Thanks for your wonderful suggestions.

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Posted 11 February 2005 - 09:35 AM

Very nice site although the flash music is soothing and yet it stops after a few seconds make that longer, also where you detail the plans its all a bit crushed together maybe more spacing between them you know the table.

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Posted 12 February 2005 - 08:47 AM

But please, PLEASE, don't make the text color some ugly white on black or similar. Light blue may not be catchy, but at least it doesn't burn.

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This is the second bit of 'no white on black' I've come across.. My Site uses this very scheme.. I started structuring it on a computer with an LCD monitor.. and have been using the same all along.. on an LCD screen, the resolution is very crisp and there is no glare (caused by a tube based screen) so I naturally found the layout very eye catching.. I went down yesterday to a friend's place to see what my site would look like on a regular monitor.. and WHAM.. it hit me.. non - lcd monitors diffuse light, so the white text on black really hurts the eye...

I'm starting a complete rework on my site because of this, as of today.. but unfortunately, this is going to take a bit of a while what with me hunting for a job too..

:-) Cheers.. R.A.

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Posted 12 February 2005 - 11:24 PM

Hello! I disagree however with the slogan "If it's quality you want, then you want Computing Host", because it is promoting that astahost isn't the quality you can expect and that to get free hosting, you want computing host, and that's not what we want. A slogan like "If posting is not your game, play computing host instead! Get hosting for only 9.95$!" or something like that. Because then it's not saying that trap17 or astahost are lower quality then computing host. Also, I would like to pronouce, that computing host is doing great. However, there are room for improvement. The fact that there are a lot of graphics is good, but it also makes the site a very busy place. They say, that when in a quiet place is suddenly quiet, thena sudden loud sound is made, it is very impacting. Same goes to websites. If a busy place, is suddenly filled by the dead void of silence and blankness, then you see the impacting words in the site. Moreover, some more pursuasive text can be put on the homepage, for example, "If you want a server like hosting, computing host is the right choice for you" as a big quote or testemonial on the sidebar. From now I see the site has a great layout, great flash intro, great content... in fact, too much. There are too many things on the site that instead of reading one section, I don't even read it at all. Just like this post. If you read this far, congradulations.

BUT I BET YOU READ THIS SENTENCE WITHOUT DOUBT.

See? A big impacting message is always separated from the other content. Also, questions will be good. Here's mine:

"So you open up a company... now what? How do you get sales? That's excacly what we're for. We can help you get sales, with the most popular way ever....

Hosting your site.

Computing host, a website of blah blah blah like you've never seen before. Our blah blah blah is the blah blah

Etc."

I know, I haven't thought up a good one yet, but some questions could be helpful.

Also, another thing is live help. I know that on the free hosting sites, you don't require live help because you already have a forum with perfecto people to respond to questions. What about the computing host? You really don't expect to put a forum up do you? That's why live help will actually help not only your vistors, but you. Turn your visitors into sales with the power of live help, and see what page your visitors visit the most, with the monitoring feature.

All that equals the best site ever.

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Posted 18 February 2005 - 12:41 PM

hey, well: astahost & trap17 ARE lower quality, which is only normal.

off course, you also have a lot of space & bandwith, but you have to share the same line & server with a lot more other clients. so the server is more stressed, the line more occupied and thus slower.

if you want really good & reliable hosting, you have to pay for it, that's it. then you have the right to complain too. i've had some problems with astahost, but hey, it's a free service and it's as good as it gets for free, so i'm quite happy. however, i'll probably get myself paid hosting. alas, not on computing, but a belgian or dutch company as that's where i live. i think you'll understand the reasons as the price is about the same. support in my language and the guys are awake at the same time as i am, while opaque lives in the us is and wakes up when i have lunch haha, the lazy ass! hehe.

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Posted 19 February 2005 - 04:21 AM

hey, well: astahost & trap17 ARE lower quality, which is only normal.

off course, you also have a lot of space & bandwith, but you have to share the same line & server with a lot more other clients. so the server is more stressed, the line more occupied and thus slower.

if you want really good & reliable hosting, you have to pay for it, that's it. then you have the right to complain too. i've had some problems with astahost, but hey, it's a free service and it's as good as it gets for free, so i'm quite happy. however, i'll probably get myself paid hosting. alas, not on computing, but a belgian or dutch company as that's where i live. i think you'll understand the reasons as the price is about the same. support in my language and the guys are awake at the same time as i am, while opaque lives in the us is and wakes up when i have lunch haha, the lazy ass! hehe.

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I don't think that you're being really friendly saying "the lazy ass" (even though I'm not sure who you're talking about)

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Posted 21 February 2005 - 10:15 AM

It seems to me that the author may not be a native English speaker. Minor inconsistancies in the grammer throws off the pace of the reader. Most people wouldn't even be conscience of the flaws but an unconscience awareness could be a real turn off for some people.

I could be mistaken, or perhapes a little grammer check may be needed.

I agree that the page seems to be too cluttered.

I suggest that you actively advertise the free hosting on the paid hosting site and vise versa. Perhapes the interest will cause some one to try your free service prior to buy your other service.

There needs to be a bigger difference between plans. Just storage and BW differences will make large clients feel that they are underapprecieted. People need to be made to feel special.

I know that certain services are free but should be by request only.
Perl, PHP, MySQL are common freebies but use server resources. Hold some things back just for the big clients. If the little guy wants it, just give it to him.

By the way, if the customer will only pay $9.95/yr for a host, probably can't afford microsoft frontpage. I don't know for sure as I don't use FrontPage.

Why offer unlimited Parked Domains, MYSQL Databases, Sub-Domains. Throw them in on Business packages but charge a minimal fee for more than one otherwise.

You seem to be offering BMW's to everyone at varying prices.

good luck
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Posted 24 February 2005 - 01:01 PM

Nice point. I had thought about it. But then, Since all the plans have been set and there are already more than 50 clients, I dont know If I should reduce the lower plans.

Also, There are hundreds of other companies who are giving the same amount of features (unlimited) for low prices. Some are even lower than mine. Anyway, I will think about this.

As for the language, Can you please PM me any particular corrections. :)

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Posted 27 February 2005 - 07:06 PM

Hey, just a thought.

Perhapes offering a small discount to active forum members would boost your paid hosting numbers.
Just a small incentive to leave the free hosting and start paying for hosting but require hosting credits from forum posts. Of course the offer would have to be for a better package that the standard free package.

I'll start a poll and see what the membership thinks.

happy administrating, :)
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This Service Has Really caught my attention and the flash animations on there are amazing.

I am thinking about sighing up for this.

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Posted 02 March 2005 - 10:51 PM

HI Opaque,

I figured saying hi would be nice :(...

First of all, great job :( really! As for things I would change or may change...

Flash header
What I would definately try to avoid (someone mentioned it in the thread) is the sound, it is nice when you first open the site, but it plays each time you click on a link and that can get quite annoying. (I apologize for the lack of tact, I am pretty tired, got bronchitis and am not even native English :)) Also the moving elements are wonderfully done, kudos to you, but to me they seemed confusing, especially the arrow, it sorta seemed like a link, which it isn't. But as I said, it may be due to me being tired. There just seems too much movement, which may be distracting from the actual content. And where's the latest news? (the title is displayed, but that's it - am using FireFox on Win 2000 Pro)

Content
First oopsie I noticed was on the lower part of the page, where you point out the key features of the three packages. First package you use the phraze "unlimited everything else" and in the other two package "unlimited everything", I'd just leave that away all together. And where you can click for "More info", I'd make the colour slightly darker, it is pretty pale and therefore not that visible.

Links?
http://www.computing....com/plans.html -> error page, file not found?
http://www.computing...tions.htmll#top see the oopsie in the URL (.htmll double l) - about, contact and support links have the same issue and none of those can be found...

I know this seems like a long list, and maybe it even makes you feel bad, because of the length. But you did an AWESOME job on it so far.. keep up the good work...

*idea*
Since you've used flash so much already, maybe it would be easier to use dynamic text in a movieclip within a flash file? That way the header doesn't always reload (and also prevents the sound from playing every reload), the text can be styled with CSS and then you only have to create text/html files. Maybe a useful idea? (don't ask me exactly how to do this, since I am trying to figure this out for my own site :) LOL)

Edited by moonwitch, 02 March 2005 - 10:56 PM.


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Posted 03 March 2005 - 04:55 AM

Maybe make a version without sound for every page other than the first... how about a nice little flash intro? That would be so awsome!

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Posted 04 March 2005 - 01:44 PM

I think you have already got a lot of feedback
but i always suggest that you offer multiple domain hosting in you packages as far as i know it doesnt not take any extra work to setup
cos i have faced the problem of the wasted space i have a few sites which are less than an mb in space and take only around 100mb of BW per month and just to host that site i have to take a 5 mb account with useless bandwidth when i could host 5 sites on the same account and still have plenty of spare badnwidth left
so that is the main thing i would love you ppl to have in cos i want to go in for paid hosting without any limits
and the plans should also be realisitic
like some plans offer plenty of space but not enough bandwidth
so keep it like that
and then ofcourse no downtimes give free site uptime services and a lot of preinstalled scripts
then the list is really long but then i would also like you to offer unlimited domina pointer or atleast a good amount that is around 25 domain pointers and atleast 25 add on domains for any of the plans atleast
I stress again please do not upgrade you php too soon or your apache too soon
always use the the most stablest version rather than the lates version
for eg in php i had a host that proudly upgraded to 5 and many scripts had problems executing
well that is like a wish list actually
so if you give all these things then you can count me in as a future customer

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Posted 05 March 2005 - 09:30 PM

if u guyz payin for this fourm, if so i might as well pay da best a vbuliten

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Posted 06 March 2005 - 08:51 PM

if u guyz payin for this fourm, if so i might as well pay da best a vbuliten

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Actually believe it or not, that's a really good point.

vBulletiin is intsantly more professional looking and although costs a little more than Invision, it does feel much higher quality and is worth taking a look at.




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