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[Ahsaniqbal111]

Yesterday, I had the need to create a PC to PC connection to transfer some data from my PC to my friend's. I am quite used to creating these connections to transfer files. I use an ethernet croos link wire for this purpose and I have successfully done it in the past. But yesterday strange things happened that I didn't understand. First of all, let me tell how I do it so that anyone who would want to help me would find it easier to help.

I go to the properties for the ethernet connection in both the computers and there I make changes to the "Internet Protocol Version 4 (TCP/IPv4)" properties. I change the "Obtain an IP address automatically" to "Use the following IP address" and the enter the following values in the first computer
IP address: 192.168.1.1
subnet mask: 255.255.255.0
Default gateway: 192.168.1.2

and the following in the second computer:
Ip address: 192.168.1.2
Subnet mask: 255.255.255.0
Default gateway: 192.168.1.1

And then I make sure that both computers have the same workgroup name and that's all. The connection starts and I can start sharing files between the two computers.

But yesterday, when I did the same, I went through strange issues. First of all the setting didn't work at all. But when I reversed them, the name of the computers appeared. In my computer, the netwrok was "Home network" but in the other computer, instead of one network, two networks appeared. One of them was home and other was "unidentified". I didn't understand why two networks appeared on that pc. By the way, when I tried to see whether I can access the files on my personal computer from the second computer, I couldn't. Just the name of my computer showed and the connection to it couldn't be established. But when I tried to view the files of the other computer from my personal computer, I successfully did so.

I don't understand where things went wrong.

[yordan]

Please use other IP addresses. Usually, 192.168.1 is your Ethernet switch, or your internet router or your wireless access point, or any thing you are using for going on the Internet.
So, it's better to leave the "obtain the address automatically" which will automatically give you a valid address.
Or use your own, but rather higher than the addresses usually given by your DHCP device, let's say 192.168.1.48 and 49.
And, yes, you can see two networks, one having been automatically detected by the DHCP client, and another one detected by the embedded Windows anti-piracy gadgets. If you cheat with IP settings, Windows will try to kick you out.

[manuleka]

I do ethernet cross over quite often for transferring big file chunks... although i haven't done any transfer lately between Windows, i am usually transferring between Windows XP and Linux these days...

anyways back to you're issue, it could be a firewall or security obstacle... do you have any third-party firewall running on you're Windows 7 machine?

When i transfer files between Two XP systems i usually just focus on two things - IP/Netmask and Workgroup Name

PC1:
IP: 192.168.0.1
Netmask: 255.255.255.0
Workgroup: KAHBOOM

PC2
IP: 192.168.0.2
Netmask: 255.255.255.0
Workgroup: KAHBOOM

Edited by manuleka, 22 February 2012 - 07:48 PM.

[yordan]

Kahboom ? Nice workgroup name?
@Ahsani : also be sure to tell Windows firewall that the new network is a trusted one!

[manuleka]

Kahboom ? Nice workgroup name?
@Ahsani : also be sure to tell Windows firewall that the new network is a trusted one!

hehe thanks... and also make sure that the cables are connected, speaking from experience of-course lol...

[Ahsaniqbal111]

Kahboom ? Nice workgroup name?
@Ahsani : also be sure to tell Windows firewall that the new network is a trusted one!

I think this is the issue, why the other computer won't joint my homegroup. Can you please tell me how would I do this? I mean how would I tell my firewall the the connection is safe. I think I would also need to tell the firewall of the other computer that the connection is safe. SO how would I do this? Can you explain?

[yordan]

First of all, de-activate your windows firewall, this will tell you if your problem is due to the firewall. In that case, re-activate the firewall after the test.

[manuleka]

Windows 7 and Vista are bit more picky on security measures... I've always had glitches on setting up network/file sharing when Windows 7/Vista is involved

[yordan]

And, first of all, try the manual way :
type the following in a command-line window :

net use * \\192.168.2.25\myfolder /user: myuser mypassword

this supposes of course that your remote IP is 192.168.2.25, the shared folder is named "myfolder", and the username on the remote system is "myuser" (in your case I guess that it is "Administrator" ) and his password is "mypassword".

[Robart]

Hi Ahsaniqbal,

For your problem Ihave a solution that may help you to connect and transfar data from your pc to another. You know a direct cable connection is a link between the input/output (I/O) ports of two computers by using a single cable rather than a modem or other interfacing device. In most cases, you make a direct cable connection with a null modem cable. You can use a direct cable connection to transfer information between the computers to exchange files, access resources, and so on.

To Make a Direct Cable Connection

• Click Start, click Control Panel, and then double-click Network Connections.
• Under Network Tasks, click Create a new connection, and then click Next.
• Click Set up an advanced connection, and then click Next.
• Click Connect directly to another computer, and click Next.
• Choose the role this machine will play in the communication. If this computer has the information to which you need to gain access, click Host. If this computer will access information from the other computer, click Guest.

Thanks for reading and See if this helps

[Ahsaniqbal111]

To Make a Direct Cable Connection

• Click Start, click Control Panel, and then double-click Network Connections.
• Under Network Tasks, click Create a new connection, and then click Next.
• Click Set up an advanced connection, and then click Next.
• Click Connect directly to another computer, and click Next.
• Choose the role this machine will play in the communication. If this computer has the information to which you need to gain access, click Host. If this computer will access information from the other computer, click Guest.

Are these steps for windows XP. I don't think they are for windows 7. And if I am correct then please tell me the procedure for windows 7 in a similar simple way.

[yordan]

Are these steps for windows XP. I don't think they are for windows 7. And if I am correct then please tell me the procedure for windows 7 in a similar simple way.

Huh? These steps seem to be there on my Windows7 system.
Of course, they have been automatically configured at first poweron, the OS detected the Ethernet cable and asked me if I want to be connected to the Internet (why not?)
However, I see that all these steps (start, control panel, create a new network) are still available with Windows7, so everything should work fine if you do like Robart was telling you.

[Ahsaniqbal111]

Huh? These steps seem to be there on my Windows7 system.

My bad !

I must have been sleepy or something.....

[yordan]

My bad !

I must have been sleepy or something.....

No problem. Most of IT people have to sleep from time to time.

[Ahsaniqbal111]

No problem. Most of IT people have to sleep from time to time.

Thanks God, I am not that much of an IT person,......