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#1 MajesticTreeFrog

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Posted 29 January 2005 - 01:22 AM

Now that Macs are FINALLY affordable and nice, is there anyone here who is considering getting one? (especially since If it didn't work out a mac mini is a small easy server).

And for those of you who aren't, is it because you don't need a new computer, don't care, or is it still too expensive(please consider the software bundle, and your pirated stuff doesn't count).

Also, if you aren't switching, what would it take?

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Posted 29 January 2005 - 01:27 AM

Mac Minis are affordable as long as you provide your own keyboard, mouse, etc.They just provide you with the head and you have to fit in the body(or so The Straits Time's Digital Life said).

After all, I have never used Mac OS X but seen it before but honestly, I prefer Windows XP's looks but Fedora still beats Windows.As for the hardware, I'll rather build one myself since it'll be cheaper and can be upgraded later, etc.

I hate Apple's iPods but their computers ain't ugly except for their price tags.The Mac Mini might change that but maybe I'll look for a second one and install a Windows XP/Fedora/dual-boot system.

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Posted 29 January 2005 - 01:34 AM

We looked a one to use as a storage server.

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Xserve RAID 5.6TB 400GB (x14) 1GB Cache 2x2GB Fibre Channel - 3U Rack


This is the model: Xserve M9723LL/A but I'm still looking :)

Affordable is in the eye of the beholder.

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Posted 29 January 2005 - 01:41 AM

We looked a one to use as a storage server.
This is the model:  Xserve M9723LL/A but I'm still looking :)

Affordable is in the eye of the beholder.

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Very True. We use an Xserve at my work( a news station) and we love it because it gives us no crap. But its all in what you want.

That being said, I was refering to home users/desktop users.

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Posted 29 January 2005 - 07:09 AM

For basic home users, they are better off getting a computer from some brand name company like HP with complete warranty or a custom built computer provider who also offers that.And of course, make sure that the provider can be trusted.

They say that the iMac Mini won't be too expensive...or what they say since when you are considering upgrade, you still have to buy the stuff directly from them...will be that still be considered cheap?!

No, I don't think so.For UKers/British people, they should go for Tiny.com since I've read all about it from PCAnswers in Singapore.For Americans, I don't know since I dislike PCWorld/Magazine but for Singaporeans...I don't recommend anything other than building a computer yourself after buying all the parts from Sim Lim Square :)

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Posted 29 January 2005 - 02:31 PM

For basic home users, they are better off getting a computer from some brand name company like HP with complete warranty or a custom built computer provider who also offers that.And of course, make sure that the provider can be trusted.

They say that the iMac Mini won't be too expensive...or what they say since when you are considering upgrade, you still have to buy the stuff directly from them...will be that still be considered cheap?!

No, I don't think so.For UKers/British people, they should go for Tiny.com since I've read all about it from PCAnswers in Singapore.For Americans, I don't know since I dislike PCWorld/Magazine but for Singaporeans...I don't recommend anything other than building a computer yourself after buying all the parts from Sim Lim Square :)

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Only you DON"T have to buy stuff directly from them, and it has a warranty. Don't forget the cost of software, because you have to buy a lot more on the PC.

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Posted 29 January 2005 - 02:48 PM

well i have been weighing up the prospect of getting a iBook for about a year but am going to wait untill my parents put WiFi in there house (and G5's come out). The mini mac does look good but for desktop to be honest i think a PC is better. If they came down in price a bit more or increased the initial hardware then i might be tempted.

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Posted 30 January 2005 - 03:55 AM

I think I'm still going to stick with a Windows-based machine.

Firstly, you can get a very good Windows machine for a lot less money.

Secondly, from what I've seen, Windows supports a lot more software out there. The majority of developers write for Windows because, of course, the majority of the population uses Windows.

Thirdly, I've never had much of a problem with Windows, so why should I switch?

And finally, if I ever do have a problem with Windows, it is very easy to find help. Since almost everyone uses Microsoft's OS, you find that there are a lot more people you can ask for help with Windows.

So as long as the majority of developers and users utilize Windows, I'm going to stick with Windows myself.

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Posted 30 January 2005 - 04:19 AM

I think I'm still going to stick with a Windows-based machine.

Firstly, you can get a very good Windows machine for a lot less money.

Secondly, from what I've seen, Windows supports a lot more software out there.  The majority of developers write for Windows because, of course, the majority of the population uses Windows.

Thirdly, I've never had much of a problem with Windows, so why should I switch?

And finally, if I ever do have a problem with Windows, it is very easy to find help.  Since almost everyone uses Microsoft's OS, you find that there are a lot more people you can ask for help with Windows.

So as long as the majority of developers and users utilize Windows, I'm going to stick with Windows myself.

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So, total pack mentality. Fair enough.

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Posted 30 January 2005 - 03:04 PM

Thirdly, I've never had much of a problem with Windows, so why should I switch?


Totally !!! ive never had a problem with my bike,, so why bother trying a car.. surely all that extra wight means you have o peddal extra hard !!!

so you never had a problem with windows... so that means you have never de-fragmented your hard disk, scanned for virii or spywware, never re-installed, never re-booted, never had to install a service pack.

I never had a problem with windows, untill i tried anouther OS and discovered that Windows was the only OS which suffered Spyware, Adware, virii, and a filesystem that detiriorates over time, and constantly neds to be proped back up with a "defragmentor" just to stop it grinding to a hault.

if you dont try, you will never know.

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Posted 31 January 2005 - 06:50 PM

i won't windows works fine, why switch when i have an OS that works fine not to mention its still the best OS.

so you never had a problem with windows... so that means you have never de-fragmented your hard disk, scanned for virii or spywware, never re-installed, never re-booted, never had to install a service pack.


and i have done all of that and still have no had a problem, its just you, it must be the operator not the operating system, i have no problems doing that or anything else. And windows only suffers from sypware and viruses because thats the os they are all written for since its the most widley used OS, if swe all change, what the viruses and spyware are written for changes too, windows already has good safeguards to stop them, anti-virus and anti-spyware programs, we all move to mac it dosen't have those yet i dn't think and viruses and spyware will be written before mac gets anti-virus and anti-spyware programs are written and you probably will have to buy any one existing where as windows has free ones that work great.

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Posted 31 January 2005 - 06:53 PM

When i hear about all the useless functions and stuff in Windows Longhorn (transparency thingys and other weird stuff), I really feel like abandoning Win for good. Too bad Games still don't run nicely :S

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Posted 31 January 2005 - 06:55 PM

When i hear about all the useless functions and stuff in Windows Longhorn (transparency thingys and other weird stuff), I really feel like abandoning Win for good. Too bad Games still don't run nicely :S

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windows already has everything thats needed the rest that will be added is just to play with, so what, its not like it comes with viruses pre installed or something, thats a stupid reason to switch and i have no problems with games eaither.

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Posted 31 January 2005 - 07:02 PM

Ryan, you missunderstand my point...

Windows porblem, the filesystem degrades over time... if you needed to use a disk degramenter, than you have had trouble with windows...

just like the virus scanners, adware removers, spyware removers.

if you truely have no problems with windows, then you wouldnt have needed any of that stuff.

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Posted 31 January 2005 - 08:48 PM

it needs that cause all the viruses are written for it cause most people are smart enough to just use windows, as for disk defreagmenter, thats happens no mater what os you have. over time the hard drive becomes fragmented, they cause no problems for me though.

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Posted 31 January 2005 - 08:53 PM

it needs that cause all the viruses are written for it cause most people are smart enough to just use windows, as for disk defreagmenter, thats happens no mater what os you have.  over time the hard drive becomes fragmented, they cause no problems for me though.

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Actually, the hard drive degredation is a result of the filesystem used, in windows case either fat32(ancient) or NTFS. There are other filesystems do not have this problem. Just FYI.

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Posted 31 January 2005 - 10:16 PM

actually thats not possible without it auto defraging itsef cause overtime you may delete files that are right in the middle and that space then isn't used, i guess an os could defragment when you delete a file but aside from that it would be a problem.

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Posted 31 January 2005 - 11:41 PM

Lol....

as for disk defreagmenter, thats happens no mater what os you have.


Nope.. Only windows !

no need to defragment Ext3 / Reiserfs / XFS / JFS / loads more....

Windows is the only Operating system i know of which uses suck a broken file system.

  actually thats not possible without it auto defraging itsef cause overtime you may delete files that are right in the middle and that space then isn't used, i guess an os could defragment when you delete a file but aside from that it would be a problem.


Denial ?

defragmentation doesnt need to be done on deleteing....
do you understand how filesystems work ?

linux does not defragment on the fly... it just doesnt fragment un-neccecerily.

it needs that cause all the viruses are written for it cause most people are smart enough to just use windows,


smart enough to pay for buggy, broken software ?

So..... if windows is so great, WHY can the university of califonia develop a Unix OS called OpenBSD, and check its code tooo well, then there's not been a remote securety hole in over 8 years, then give it away for free...

but Microsoft, the richest company, with far more poeple working on it than BSD, have such a broken OS ?

answer that one.

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Posted 04 February 2005 - 05:38 PM

who wirtes virused for openBSD, who worries about findong hole in openBSD (that do exist they just haven't been discovered) no body, people are only interested in doing this on the most widley used os, windows, why is it the most widley used, because most peoplee know how good it is, and arenn't misguided.

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Posted 04 February 2005 - 06:01 PM

who worries about findong hole in openBSD


the BSD team.

the BSD operating systems are DE FACTO web servers... (you know, the internet thing)
why hack a few home computers with broadm#band / dialup, that are powered on for an hour a day when you could hack the infrastructure of the internet.. BSD machines with T1 connections, that are powered on 24/7 rebooted once every half decade for an upgrade.

you obviousely know nothing about computers.



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