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Omkar™
post May 24 2006, 10:45 AM
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A matter of $1...

Once A, B & C went to a restaurant. After having tea and light refreshment they asked for bill, the amount of bill was $30.
They decided to pay the bill amount on equal share.
Everybody took out $10 from their pocket and paid the bill.
They were yet sitting and gossiping in restaurant,
Suddenly the waiter realized that the amount of their bill was $25 and not $30.
He took $5 from counter and decided to return it to them.
Then he thought they were 3 how will they share $5 ?
So he decided to keep $2 to himself and return only $3 to them.

He came to their table and returned them $3 with apology.
Everybody took $1 and put in their pockets.

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Now my question is first time everyone paid $10
Later they get $1 refunded.
So everybody paid $9.

$ 9 * 3 = $ 27 ..... 1

The waiter put $2 in his pocket.

$ 27 + 2 = $ 29 ..... 2

So...... Where is the remaining $1 ????

Start thinking, and soon you'll return to the age when you were taught how to add using your

fingers!

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post May 24 2006, 11:28 AM
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Hehe.. nice! smile.gif

The part 27+2=29 does the trick of misleading people into the wrong thinking path.

The waitress should have only 2 becoz 27-25=2. What the waitress get is the difference between what A, B, C paid and the actual price. After all, she pockected some money from them. smile.gif

If somehow the bill now becomes 30, which is the original price, A, B, C would then take out 1 each and the waitress would take out 2.
1+1+1+2=5 and 25+5=30. Hurrah!
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post May 25 2006, 02:44 PM
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Very Nice. I love a good puzzle. Anyway, here's another puzzle for you braniacs out there. Answer this one.

Find the next three terms in this sequence: 3, 3, 6, 8, 15, 24.....

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post May 27 2006, 10:34 AM
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24?
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post May 28 2006, 08:01 AM
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its 39.. its a fibonacii series..
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post May 28 2006, 08:14 AM
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QUOTE(Unitechy @ May 28 2006, 03:01 PM) *

its 39.. its a fibonacii series..


You're quite wrong there Unitechy.. While this ressembles the Fibonacci Series, this doesn't progress like that beyond the first 3 numbers in sequence. An ideal Fibonacci Series would sequentially progress as the sum of the last two numbers. For example: 0, 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8.....

Here the series progresses a bit differently: 3, 3, 6, 8, 15, 24.....

Admittedly, judging by the first 3 in the set, it looks like Fibonacci.. but starting from 4th number it takes a different turn. You'd notice a that from the 3rd term, apart from the sum of last 2 numbers, the term gets padded with a sequence that progresses like 0, -1, +1, +1 ...
Let me clarify this a bit further... (if we start by considering the 3rd term)..
3 + 3 + 0 =6
6 + 3 - 1 = 8
8 + 6 + 1 = 15
15 + 8 + 1 = 24

This is where it gets me baffled... and I can't crack the series being padded to the original sequence.. Maybe an example of the 7th number would help me get at it better... though I have a feeling this series would alternate between 0, -1, +1, +1, -1, 0 ... like that... if that's the case, the 7th term would be..
24 + 15 - 1 = 38
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post May 28 2006, 10:41 AM
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Well, m^e, I've had the same thing as you in mind. However, that way it is quite hard to predict what will go next.

We have:
+0
-1
+1
+1


There are numerous possibilities and we can't find what is being repeated. But here's a guess: +1, +0, -1, +1. It is quite stupid, but that way we would get this sequence:

3 3 6 8 15 24 39 62 102

I might have made a mistake when calculating, but this is one of the possibilities.
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post May 28 2006, 10:42 AM
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hmmm.. might be true.. but its quiet confusing..
at one tme -1 then +1


QUOTE(miCRoSCoPiC^eaRthLinG @ May 27 2006, 09:14 PM) *

You're quite wrong there Unitechy.. While this ressembles the Fibonacci Series, this doesn't progress like that beyond the first 3 numbers in sequence. An ideal Fibonacci Series would sequentially progress as the sum of the last two numbers. For example: 0, 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8.....

Here the series progresses a bit differently: 3, 3, 6, 8, 15, 24.....

Admittedly, judging by the first 3 in the set, it looks like Fibonacci.. but starting from 4th number it takes a different turn. You'd notice a that from the 3rd term, apart from the sum of last 2 numbers, the term gets padded with a sequence that progresses like 0, -1, +1, +1 ...
Let me clarify this a bit further... (if we start by considering the 3rd term)..
3 + 3 + 0 =6
6 + 3 - 1 = 8
8 + 6 + 1 = 15
15 + 8 + 1 = 24

This is where it gets me baffled... and I can't crack the series being padded to the original sequence.. Maybe an example of the 7th number would help me get at it better... though I have a feeling this series would alternate between 0, -1, +1, +1, -1, 0 ... like that... if that's the case, the 7th term would be..
24 + 15 - 1 = 38

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post May 28 2006, 02:51 PM
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Heh.. Nice problem there... I think I've heard it before but it's always cool to hear these brain teasers again every now and then..

Very mind boggling!

Got anymore cool brain teasers for us?
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post Jun 1 2006, 04:26 AM
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Well, except for the 8, it is each number TN where T stands for Term and N is the term number is 3 * FN where F is the Fibonacci term and N is still the same term number. Could it be a typo?

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