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Jul 20 2005, 06:26 PM
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Newbie [ Level 2 ] Group: Members Posts: 17 Joined: 19-July 05 Member No.: 7,251 |
I'm trying to share the internet connection with no success.
I have Internet with CableAccess. I'm using a SB5100 Motorola Modem. I have a hub, and old one (but working really fine). I connect two computers and the modem to the hub. I have proof some configuratiosn, but none of those works. I set the two computers using dynamic IP (thus my ISP config uses DHCP), but just one computers has internet Then I tried to set one as a default gateway, and config the other with a ststaic IP, first with and IP in the same range as the other IP's machine, then tried 192.168.0.1, then 192.168.0.2. But not working Then i had the idea to set the gateway the same in the two computers, the one given by the DHCP server, and one IP static, and one dynamic. But none of this seem to work. Have any ideas?? Is it posiible to do that using a hub, or do I need a router? |
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Jul 20 2005, 06:33 PM
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Premium Member Group: Members Posts: 230 Joined: 15-May 05 From: your sister Member No.: 5,102 |
Correct me if I'm wrong but I think that as long as your hub is only a hub the whole thing will not work, what you need is a router! You could buy one or built one on your own out of an old computer, using fli4l http://www.fli4l.de/e_index.htm or similar software.
An alternative would be Windows' ICS, Internet Connection Sharing, but for this the 'second' computer alway needs the first one to be running. GreetingZ |
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Jul 20 2005, 07:45 PM
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Premium Member Group: Members Posts: 385 Joined: 13-October 04 From: Ontario Member No.: 1,175 |
QUOTE(hazeshow @ Jul 20 2005, 02:33 PM) Correct me if I'm wrong but I think that as long as your hub is only a hub the whole thing will not work, what you need is a router! You could buy one or built one on your own out of an old computer, using fli4l http://www.fli4l.de/e_index.htm or similar software. An alternative would be Windows' ICS, Internet Connection Sharing, but for this the 'second' computer alway needs the first one to be running. GreetingZ But, how would that work if the old computer only has one enthernet slot? I recommend just getting a router, as it would be much easier. The internet sharing option through windows xp may work to though... I'm not really all that familiar with the set up. |
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Jul 20 2005, 09:40 PM
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'Prentice de-Zighner Group: Members Posts: 368 Joined: 23-January 05 From: USA Member No.: 2,290 |
If I'm not wrong, a hub is used in the center of a network where data flow is transfered around like a big spider web. The router splits the internet connection to the computers connected in the network but it doesn't mean that you can transfer data through from the computer-router-computer. I tried that and it doesn't seem possible.
From my knowledge i believe a hub should be like a router of sorts but it doesn't work with certain types of networks. I use a wireless network with a Cable modem (Motorola), wireless router, network router (2 telephone ports for cable phone connection), and finally the wireless adapter itself to your computer. I'm trying to transfer data from one computer to another but it doesn't seem possible for my computer to interact with anything other than the router itself. I believe it's supposed to be able to work because hackers who tap into your UNSECURED wireless network (If you didn't secure it) may be able to see your every doings. So how do i do it? |
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Jul 20 2005, 10:02 PM
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Member [ Level 1 ] Group: Members Posts: 39 Joined: 28-May 05 Member No.: 5,536 |
Not being a complete computer-geek-guru myself... the only way I was able to get my home network up and running was to toss my old "hub" and invest in a Router. The router takes care of the DCHP handling for the computer's attached to it... the only thing I had to do was have the Router clone the MAC address of my cable modem... and my network was off and running.
If you are hoping to save as much money as possible, the older style Routers (not wireless) are very cheap right now. However, if I was to be going out and purchasing one now myself, I would ensure that I could buy something that would last me for a few years, and would invest in the wireless "G" routers. That way, I would have at least some comfort knowing that what I just spent my money on would last me for a good 5 years at least. Hope that helps. |
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Jul 21 2005, 01:36 PM
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Newbie [ Level 2 ] Group: Members Posts: 17 Joined: 19-July 05 Member No.: 7,251 |
So... there's no way of sharing theinternet with a hub???
Still thinking someway it should work, having ine machine with dynamic IP, and setting this as gateway, and the other woth static IP. I think having one IP valid (as form the modem as for the machine) it should be posiible, but can't figure it out. I don't wan't to spend money buying a router... |
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Jul 21 2005, 04:02 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 110 Joined: 6-April 05 Member No.: 3,673 |
QUOTE(techocian @ Jul 20 2005, 09:40 PM) but it doesn't mean that you can transfer data through from the computer-router-computer. I tried that and it doesn't seem possible. Yes, you can. Not only do I remember that from the whole theory behind the router on the way to my Network+ Certificate, but in fact my own sysem is set up that way, and I transfer data from one machine to another all the time. As far as using the hub to divide your Internet connection among two computers at once, I don't think that that can be done, but I'm not absolutely sure. The problem will be that your ISP will not see the hub; the hub is a passive device, and your ISP will see two or more different hosts, the end-user computers, hooked up to one connection at the same time, which isn't allowed in TCP/IP. |
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Jul 31 2005, 02:51 PM
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Member [ Level 1 ] Group: Members Posts: 39 Joined: 28-May 05 Member No.: 5,536 |
With your using a hub... I would think you would need to have your cable modem connected directly to your main computer's Ethernet connection... then have a 2nd Ethernet connection available in that computer to connect to that hub, and thus to the other computers in your home network.
Then, connected like that, you could setup your main computer for "Internet Connection Sharing"... and the hub would simply route the rest of your home networked computers thru that main computer's Cable connection??? At least... without a router to take care of the DCHP for you, I think this is the way you would need to accomplish this. Hope it helps some at least. |
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Jul 31 2005, 03:46 PM
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Newbie [ Level 2 ] Group: Members Posts: 17 Joined: 19-July 05 Member No.: 7,251 |
So I can't with the hub, so what I did, something similar to the previous post, was to connect the modem motorola trough the usb port and with the driver that comes it makes the machine to see it like another connection more.
So now i have the ethernet port free. With this now i can share the internet. So what is next is easy to do, share the connection, and configure the two machines. So righ now they are workin perfectly unfortunatelly I think there's no way to do it through the hub, I thought it was posiible. but tnx for the help |
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Aug 1 2005, 06:12 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 145 Joined: 4-December 04 From: California Member No.: 1,608 |
I had my broadband access shared by a hub for several years (prior to getting a wireless router free with a DSL upgrade). Technically, it is possible, but you have to configure a host computer to act as a router to the other computers. You connect them all together via the hub, with the uplink port being filled by your broadband modem, and the rest being filled by individual computers. Now, since I was running on a Mac, I used a program called IPNetRouter (now IPNetRouterX for Mac OS X), but I'm assuming there's an equivalent for Windows out there somewhere (search for soft router or software router).
The concept is simple: Have one computer connect to the internet through the hub normally. Launch the software router software. On the other computers, manually configure them to connect to the router's IP, which should be listed somewhere on the router software's window or settings. From that point, it's just a manner of testing to see if it works. I had my router on a Mac Performa 638 for about 3 years. That's a 33mhz machine, and I didn't notice any speed issues at all. True, if you want your network up and running, you need that host computer running 24/7. However, an added benefit was that the host computer acted as a firewall to the rest, and I'm sure that if you have some more software you could make a pretty decent server out of it. So, it is possible. You just need to know how to do it. |
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