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Miles
post Feb 11 2008, 12:55 PM
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I often browse ebay, It's interesting to see what is for sale, although I have never bought anything from it. I just don't want to go through the bother. My father deleted his paypal account a while ago because he feared he would be scammed, as you can tell he is extremely paranoid.
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post Feb 11 2008, 01:34 PM
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QUOTE(Miles @ Feb 11 2008, 12:55 PM) *
I often browse ebay, It's interesting to see what is for sale, although I have never bought anything from it. I just don't want to go through the bother. My father deleted his paypal account a while ago because he feared he would be scammed, as you can tell he is extremely paranoid.

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post Mar 2 2008, 01:29 AM
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lol
I'm an ebay user since 1999 and i had no problems at all.
I'm both seller and buyer, and there are a lot of advantages to it!

I've subscribed to Paypal a long time ago,
but i also was scared to put any credit card numbers on it.
Now it's done, i can see how secure it is...
They ask you for personal informations each time you want to change somehting.
Those requests are always different,
so you really need a lot of information before you can hack in someone else's account.

I've just bought from asia using paypal,
and i got no problems because his feedbacks were high
and sells a lot.
Being a european citizen, i had to pay import fees,
but it was like 15% of the object,
it's still 30% less than if i bought on the cheapest european websites.

Then,
i sell my old stuffs,
and ask my friend to raise the bids tongue.gif
so that makes it interesting selling on ebay

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post Mar 2 2008, 06:59 PM
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I don't know better, can you suggest equals (eg, for computer stuff in UK).
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post Mar 17 2008, 10:49 PM
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QUOTE(akijikan @ Nov 26 2005, 04:02 PM) *
Wow...I don't know where to start.

You obviously don't have the mind to think for yourself!

If you don't want to get cheated on eBay, deal with users who have good feedback and you can look at the shipping charges before you bid, so you know what you're getting into. You can also see if an item has a reserve or not before you bid. If you see an item has a reserve and you don't like that, don't bid, how is that getting jipped?

Everybody who sells on ebay pads their shipping charges. I do. It's because I'm going to be paid for the time and materials I spend on shipping, not just whatever the place charges me to move it. But like I said, shipping charges are displayed before you even bid, so its not like some big secret.

As for faulty, DOA, or broken products, that's why you pay for shipping insurance and deal with trustworthy sellers. You say no one looks at feedback, but that's obviously just you, since you seem to be in the minority of people that have bad transactions on ebay. Maybe if you did look at it you wouldn't have such bad transactions.

Feedback is also not your only recourse. You report a seller to ebay and they usually face suspension and more often closure of their accounts. For sellers, if you get a non-paying-bidder than eBay will even refund all your listing-fees. For buyers, pay through pay-pal because all transactions through them are guaranteed and pay-pal will refund you your money if something is wrong. Combine that with the fact that there is almost no one on eBay who doesn't accept pay-pal and you have a fairly nice system. More often than not, any reputable sellers DO offer refunds. I do, but no one ever asks for them since I take the time and care to make my transactions right.

And you are falling prey to outright deception if you think Amazon has low prices. Give me a list of the top 100 items sold on Amazon.com and 9/10 can be found somewhere else online (and places other than ebay) for lower prices.

Please think things out before you go attacking something you obviously don't know how to use. It's not a poor product on ebay's fault, it's a half-hearted approach to it on your fault. Read through ebay's help section and you would have found everything I've told you.

If it's so crappy, then why does everyone use it?

I also forgot to add, don't call everyone else stupid because you don't know how to use something.

I think anyone who reads what you said and what I said will see whose actions could be considered "stupid".

DANG defenetlly changed my mind about ebay and after i saw this i went on Ebay logged on wiht my moms acount and browsed you see all the stuff and rep so tys to akijikan for changing my mind and amazon is not better then ebay

but the one problem is that people are afrid for reporting people or just dont know enoth english to read and understand it so i can see where th orignal posters idea came from ebay is not to blame
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post Apr 12 2008, 12:09 AM
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"the thing is what ever kind of bidding system you have ..You ll always have the problem of bad seller and damaged goods fraud etc. You just cant make it go away."

And you certainly can't complain to eBay about it or get them to do a anything about it either. And you're limited to about 10 words to describe how you got ripped off in the feedback.

I got ripped off by a seller selling a pirated movie, a VERY RARE MOVIE, that cost me $50. What did eBay do about it? Nothing, because they're goddamn impossible to contact. I went to their office here in San Jose to get something done, it's a joke. They have the worst customer service on the planet.

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post May 14 2008, 05:23 PM
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Wow mad.gif no one talks about ebay that way never had a prob and anyways you buy at your own risk it's even in the terms and con. i bought so really good stuff off ebay like emergncy parts and i have sold for others never once had a prob mind you i always bought from a shop and made sure the rating was above 97% so don't dis ebay it's not right if you don't want cheated buy of amazon.
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post May 14 2008, 05:59 PM
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QUOTE(Miles @ Feb 11 2008, 08:55 AM) *
I often browse ebay, It's interesting to see what is for sale, although I have never bought anything from it. I just don't want to go through the bother. My father deleted his paypal account a while ago because he feared he would be scammed, as you can tell he is extremely paranoid.



I always find it humorous when people think that the internet is any less secure than the way credit card transactions have taken place in the past. My parents are like that. I pointed out to them that they never fused about the old system where the card was placed under carbon paper and an imprint of the card was made. So the retailer had the name the number and the expiration date. Then there are restaurants wherein you physically hand your card to someone who walks away with it. Lastly, of course, the mail order catalogs my mother frequently shops from by calling someone you have never met giving them your name, billing address and all the information from the card.

Of course half the problem is the news and other media. Anytime there is a security problem it's pasted all over the news with no mention of the literal billions of transactions that take place problem free. Add to this the countless bad movies and TV programs written by computer illiterates for the computer illiterate wherein anything digital is portrayed as dangerous and you have an atmosphere of mistrust.

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post May 11 2008, 05:08 PM
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Ebay Sucks!

Feedback at ebay is less than worthless; it makes no sense to leave negative feedback for anyone. The feedback system is a good concept that fails miserably in implantation and accountable standards. Take magicpower711 for instance, they have a very respectable feedback score of 15842, with a 97.3% positive rating, that was even higher when I bought. They are a Hong Kong counterfeiter. The items they sell are cheap and they work, so most of the time people believe they are buying genuine product and happily leave positive feedback. In fact they are inferior products that are completely illegal. But because of the numerous jurisdictions, it�s nearly impossible to prosecute.

When an item is purchased through a credit card company, one can generally get their money back. After that, there is no incentive to report negative feed back. Doing so, one is assured to get negative feedback in return which only hurts them self. The standards for having negative feedback removed are excessive (a court order) and far too expensive to be practical.

I purchased two Compact Flash memory cards from magicpower711. Do I know if ebay worked with law enforcement to prosecute the seller? No! What I do know, is that hundreds or even thousands of people who left positive feedback were ever told that they were likely ripped off and had received bogus merchandise.

I know that San Disk verified for me ebay and PayPal that my items were counterfeit. I know that the only way I was going to be given a full refund was to return the counterfeit merchandise to magicpower711. This makes no sense what so ever, because it�s illegal to send counterfeit merchandise by postal service. To get a refund, I was told to break the law, and return the counterfeit merchandise to the counterfeiter. How does that help anyone? I lose $10 shipping and they have negative feedback, and they get the merchandise back with no expenses and one negative hit out of thousands.

Did ebay remove my negative feedback? Of course not! I didn�t have a court order. Think twice about giving negative feedback, it makes no sense what so ever. I�d tell you about 6 other purchases that were even worse, but it would take to long!
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post Jun 9 2008, 12:07 AM
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eBay fee refunds
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Sorry, eBay does NOT refund your listing fees for UPI's (UnPaid Items). They MAY refund your Final Value Fee (8.25%). However, if the buyer respomds to your UPI claim that he now intends to pay, eBay closes your UPI claim. Then, if the buyer still refuses to pay, you do not get the refund.

EBay is going downhill at a rapid rate!



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