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Feb 1 2005, 08:29 PM
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Premium Member Group: Members Posts: 311 Joined: 1-November 04 Member No.: 1,290 |
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Feb 2 2005, 09:15 PM
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Premium Member Group: Members Posts: 279 Joined: 2-February 05 From: UK Member No.: 2,480 |
Apple MACs versus Microsoft Windows XP i prefer windows over the apple macs as it has more control over the machine. couldnt believe it had only a one button mouse, when i first saw it! but very good for beginners using computer systems. i think it is user friendly compared to the windows. little bit with the windows and lunix. as bit like Macs --> Windows --> Lunix for advanced users.
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Feb 2 2005, 10:01 PM
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Premium Member Group: Members Posts: 258 Joined: 22-December 04 From: Online, USA Member No.: 1,840 |
Despite what everyone thinks, Mac OS X uses a two button mouse! Apple one makes one button mice (why, I don't know) but you can hook up a two button USB mouse and it will work fine. I have a two button mouse myself from Micro Inovations (not the best, but I got it free.) Anyway:
I love OS X and I think the reason most people (not all) think Windows is better is because they have hardly used a Mac and are used to Windows. I can belive anyone who says they prefer a Mac, because I know they have used both. Unforunatly you can't get thought life without using Windows (mostly Wintel machines at school) I know there are some people who have used both and still think Windows is better. The only reason I can see for using Windows over Mac OS X is: • You like to play every game as soon as it comes out and don't want to wait for the Mac version • You like to build your own computer. (a lot more resources out there for how to build a PC) • You get sea sick (aqua interface on OS X... okay, bad joke.) For me, I'll stick with the bueatiful, stable, virus-free Mac OS X. For those who don't know how to use Mac OS, need help or have a question: check out this forum with some good Mac Users. |
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Feb 2 2005, 11:35 PM
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Super Member Group: Members Posts: 692 Joined: 25-November 04 Member No.: 1,523 |
QUOTE(harriko @ Feb 2 2005, 05:15 PM) Apple MACs versus Microsoft Windows XP i prefer windows over the apple macs as it has more control over the machine. couldnt believe it had only a one button mouse, when i first saw it! but very good for beginners using computer systems. i think it is user friendly compared to the windows. little bit with the windows and lunix. as bit like Macs --> Windows --> Lunix for advanced users. Actually, its more like windows------------>mac-->linux. It is a common misconception that macs only use one button. They can use many. I understand one reason they do this is to make software developers do a better job on their interface, and not overload the second mouse button. Speaking from experience, this has worked well. As for control, realize that OSX is built on unix, which linux was made to be a version of(it has since changed a bit). So, linux and Mac OS are very similar. So similar in fact, that you can run linux software on a Mac. |
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Feb 2 2005, 11:45 PM
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Way Out Of Control - You need a life :) Group: Members Posts: 1,366 Joined: 14-September 04 From: Nottingham England Member No.: 570 |
QUOTE(musichere @ Feb 1 2005, 09:29 PM) Yeah thats True... but linux cannot force hardware vendors to document there own work well enough for the kernel hackers to develop drivers... they do there best. personally though, i would rather read a compatability list before buying than have to suffer the de-fragmenting virus scanning adware and spyware and etc etc etc blah blah blah broken recored.. lol. QUOTE As for control, realize that OSX is built on unix, which linux was made to be a version of(it has since changed a bit). So, linux and Mac OS are very similar. So similar in fact, that you can run linux software on a Mac. lol.... GNU/Linux is a recursive acronym for "GNU IS NOT UNIX" Linux is a completely seprerate OS to UNIX... however, it does conform to all the Unix standards, which is why it seems to be identicle... usually, and unix or linux source code can simply be re-compiled, and run on the other platform. Linux is developered by a load of hackers all across the globe.. pretty cool eh. OpenBSD is open source, but is developeed mostly at the University of califonia. MacOXS was a branch off FreeBSD, the kernel was re-written, and the Graphical Desktop was added (the desktop is closed source) |
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Feb 2 2005, 11:54 PM
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Super Member Group: Members Posts: 692 Joined: 25-November 04 Member No.: 1,523 |
QUOTE(qwijibow @ Feb 2 2005, 07:45 PM) lol.... GNU/Linux is a recursive acronym for "GNU IS NOT UNIX" Linux is a completely seprerate OS to UNIX... however, it does conform to all the Unix standards, which is why it seems to be identicle... usually, and unix or linux source code can simply be re-compiled, and run on the other platform. So, its called not unix, but is so close that it is almost identical, even in file structure, to such an extent that source is so compatible? Hmm, if it looks like unix, works like unix, and runs tho same software as unix..... As for GNU, that is what stands for GNU IS NOT UNIX, as opposed to 'GNU/linux' which is richard stallman's weird politic way of refering to the linux OS. I understand GNU was created that way partially as a joke, and partially to make sure nobody got sued. Linux was an entirely different project, and was INDEED an attempt to make a unix-like OS. |
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Feb 2 2005, 11:54 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 160 Joined: 1-January 05 From: USVI Member No.: 1,961 |
I have worked with MACs and PCs for more than ten years now and can say from experience that the MAC OS has been more stable than the PC OS.
Bill’s company used to develop software for MACs before he got the DOS development contract. It was the MAC desktop environment architecture that gave him the idea for windows. No one can tell me otherwise! The MAC OS for most of its life has been backward compatible with old systems; unlike in the PC world if you upgraded your OS you had to upgrade hardware. SCSI, USB and FIREWIRE have been a part of the MAC world before PCs saw any of these technologies. MACs have been expensive and third party development has been hindered. But you will find that most complicated software like video studios, music, and labor-intensive programs lean towards MACs. I am comfortable in both worlds and love to work with both; it’s hard to choose. |
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Feb 3 2005, 09:41 AM
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Way Out Of Control - You need a life :) Group: Members Posts: 1,366 Joined: 14-September 04 From: Nottingham England Member No.: 570 |
QUOTE It was the MAC desktop environment architecture that gave him the idea for windows. No one can tell me otherwise! here i am telling you otherwise... Everyone says that Windows STOLE the Mac's Graphical inerface, but nobody seems to understand what they are saying, they are just repeating what they have heard, much like parrots do. Microsoft and Apple worked together developing the windowed desktop, then before it was finished, the 2 company's split, and decided that each could take the work they did together, and copmplete it seperatly. Next thing you know.... Mac is B1tching that MS stole its desktop... why.... before they split up, it was not documented in the project anywhere that windows could overlap... it was documented that there were these things called windows, and they contained applications that could be dragged around the screen. its common snece that they would overlap! but Mac claimed it was there idea. There are too many stupid patents around... Microsoft has somehow managed to patent the sudo command... which is not yet available in windows, but has been used in Linux and Unix since the dawn of time... ITS CALLED PRIOR ART.. i swaer the patent offce is full of monkeys ! |
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Feb 3 2005, 06:12 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 160 Joined: 1-January 05 From: USVI Member No.: 1,961 |
QUOTE(qwijibow @ Feb 3 2005, 05:41 AM) here i am telling you otherwise... Please have a look at this site and there are many more that will state this fact. "Microsoft officials conceded, under oath, that most of the Windows operating system had been copied from the Mac operating system." http://macvspc.info/ Have fun Additional info Graphical User Interface (GUI) The GUI had its roots in the 1950s but was not developed until the 1970s when a group at the Xerox Palo Alto Research Center (PARC) developed the Alto, a GUI-based computer. The Alto was the size of a large desk, and Xerox believed it unmarketable. Jobs took a tour of PARC in 1979, and saw the future of personal computing in the Alto. Although much of the Interface of both the Lisa and the Mac was based (at least intellectually) heavily on the work done at PARC, and many of the engineers there later left to join Apple, much of the Mac OS was written before Job's visit to PARC. When Jobs accused Bill Gates of Microsoft of stealing the GUI from Apple and using it in Windows 1.0. The fact that both Apple and Microsoft had gotten the idea of the GUI from Xerox put a major dent in Apple's lawsuit against Microsoft over the GUI several years later. Although much of The Mac OS is original, it was similar enough to the old Alto GUI to make a "look and feel" suit against Microsoft dubious. Taken from “apple-history.com” On November 10, 1983, at the Plaza Hotel in New York City, Microsoft Corporation formally announced Microsoft Windows, a next-generation operating system that would provide a graphical user interface (GUI) and multitasking environment for IBM computers. Microsoft promised that the new program would be on the shelf by April 1984. It might have been released under the original name of Interface Manager if Microsoft's marketing whiz, Rowland Hanson, had not convinced Microsoft founder Bill Gates that Windows was the better name. Taken from “About.com” website. |
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Feb 4 2005, 11:44 AM
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Way Out Of Control - You need a life :) Group: Members Posts: 1,366 Joined: 14-September 04 From: Nottingham England Member No.: 570 |
Windows stole the look and feel of Apple....
Apple stole the docker from NextSTEP. I believe that Apple would have eventually come up with a docker system even if they never saw NextSTEP, i also believe MS would have come to the same conclusion about putting seperate programs in seperate overlapping boxes on the screen called windows, even if they never saw apples desktop. Who was it who had the idea of putting water in the freezer to make ice to put in drinks to cool them down ? if he didnt show his friends his idea, his friends would have worked it out for themselves. Apple lost the law suit, its over, and nolonger relevant. |
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