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post Jun 12 2006, 10:05 PM
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nice review but Ubuntu was stated to become a bleeding-edge technology release (aren't all Linux distros like that anyways?) So, I don't know if a lot of people would want to use it.

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post Jun 12 2006, 11:23 PM
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What do you mean by a bleeding edge tech release? IT's just like it's always been, one of the simplest and easiest to use distros available (if not THE simplest and easiest to use). Its not the most powerful bleeding edge distro by any stretch of the imagination, tho.
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post Jun 13 2006, 12:05 AM
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The fact is that Ubuntu 6.10 will be a kind-of bleeding edge release, that's why they made 6.06 Long Term Support! Every distro got to have something new at some point right? Anyone aiming for stableness should not upgrade to 6.10 but wait for the next version beyond 6.10 All updates will be available so no fear your computer will be outdated. I'll definitely upgrade to 6.10 BEFORE it's released, I loved the bleeding-edge!
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post Jun 13 2006, 01:44 AM
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Oooooh, 6.10, right. Yea it will probably be more bleeding edge, but I still think most stuff will be heavily optional. I cant see them completely alienating there main audience
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post Jun 13 2006, 02:41 AM
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Well, 6.10 is named Edgy Eft.
QUOTE(https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2006-April/000064.html)
First things first. The codename of Dapper+1 will be:

The Edgy Eft

And here's why. Edgy is all about cutting edge, perhaps bleeding edge,
brand new code and infrastructure. It will be the right time to bring in
some seriously interesting but definitely edgy new technologies which
lay the groundwork for the next wave of Ubuntu development.

An Eft is a youthful newt, going through its first exploration of the
rocky territory just outside the stream. And that's exactly what we hope
the development team will do with Ubuntu during the Edgy cycle - explore
slightly unfamiliar and uncharted territory that is perhaps a little out
of the mainstream.

But I think I WILL be stable. It's just the opensource versioning and stableness is more "strict" than proprietry software. Often, beta opensource software is stable enough for microsoft to release it if microsoft to developed it.
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post Jun 13 2006, 03:52 PM
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QUOTE(Jeigh @ Jun 12 2006, 07:23 PM) *

What do you mean by a bleeding edge tech release? IT's just like it's always been, one of the simplest and easiest to use distros available (if not THE simplest and easiest to use). Its not the most powerful bleeding edge distro by any stretch of the imagination, tho.


I don't think Ubuntu as the easiest and simpliest distribution ever, it actually annoys me a lot.

Ubuntu has many restrictions and too many of its tool still uses the command line system and doesn't have a GUI which is important for newcomers.

Furthermore, I still can't figure out how the heck do you all the computer open a application in a new X Server 'cuz it locks it and not allow me.

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post Jun 13 2006, 06:21 PM
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Hm, what kinds of things do you feel you need to use the command line for in Ubuntu? I mean, I know I personally use it for most of the things, but I can think of a way to do virtually everything through the interface. I know one of my friends was using my computer and had never touched linux before and just messed around and found most of the things that they would normally need to know before I even realized they were on the comp.

I ask only out of curiosity, I think they've implemeneted in the last couple releases alot of ways to circumvent he command line.... not that I feel you SHOULD wink.gif
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post Jun 14 2006, 01:53 AM
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well, maybe that changed a lot of things since 5.10, which was my last use of Ubuntu.

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QUOTE(Jeigh @ Jun 12 2006, 01:04 PM) *

They actually have built in packages now for XGL, its a big draw for new users to 6.06. They are planning to have it even more integrated for 6.10 since that release is apparently going to focus alot more on the interface and making the distro more appealing at a glance since they've put so much emphasis on making it usable up until this point (this is not to say they are going to ignore issues that don't relate to the look/feel, but they are going to try to make it snazzier for 6.10). SHould be interesting to have an option like "You have ____ video card, would you like to enable XGL?" right in the installer.


Simple reason for XGL not being an option to put in the installer. It's still beta software, and not everyone with the specs for it has got it working correctly. I've got it working at the moment, but it still gave me a bit of a headache when suddenly all the Gnome window decorators were gone. No way I could select windows, nor they'd appear in the taskbar at the bottom. It took a few symlinks and a new lib file to put it working correctly, which means Ubuntu 6.06 wasn't completely ready for XGL (although it works just fine in my comp).

Maybe 6.10 will change this (fortunately it will) and will allow for XGL to be installed with one or two clicks.

Also, mind that a few of the plugins developed for XGL are far from being stable, taking otherwise stable systems to crash. Again, hopefully, that'll be solved. Not an issue from Ubuntu's dev team as far as I know, anyway.
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post Jun 26 2006, 09:50 PM
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actually, it's harder for Ubuntu to include XGL because NVIDIA and ATI are supporting AIGLX.

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