Hraefn, there were some bugs that were just found right after the release, that was why SP1 came out so close from the launch date. Although we can say that we have technology now that we don't 5 years ago is true in some ways but doesn't mean that back then we didn't know how to plug those holes.

xboxrulz

This is very old news. Although, I agree on the person commenting on LiNUX here. Even if the LiNUX community has its share of trolls and n00b haters, you are most likely to get the most out of any distribution, and that's saying the least.

Try having 100 windows NT servers still in your datacenters and getting patches for that
Or better yet, tell your customers that they have to pay for MS premium support for NT4 patches.

Always great to be on the line when sales tells that to a customer.

"But our apps run fine on nt4"
Well develop them for 2003

QUOTE(nightfox @ Apr 19 2006, 09:02 AM)

This is YET another great reason to run Linux. All Microsuck sees out of EVERYTHING is $$$$... darn it, isn't William rich ENOUGH?? Well, personally, MS should have coded the previous versions correctly instead of releasing Windows with 200,000,000,000,000 security holes and another 200,000,000,000,000,000 bugs.

Of course, I can't exactly complain because I could never code an operating system. That's why there's alternatives such as Linux!

As far as I'm concered, you can still be running Red Hat 2 and Red Hat is still going to support you. I like laughing at MS because of the rate they "discontinue support" for their customers.. It's amazing how many complaints there are about Windows yet NO ONE does ANYTHING about it except continue to support MS...

[N]F

didn't they cut it already, i never noticed they support win98 or win Me users at all, and never heared about that.
isn't it strange that linux communities is more interested in supporting linux users more?, they are not official companies "i mean most" but they never stop supporting an old distro users, isn't it more than enough for microsoft to be around?, they will not stand more anyway.
Note : Windows vista requires 1 GB Ram, LOoOL

Here's an interesting point. Most people that use windows are the general public. That being said most of those users are point and click users that know only how to use their applications (and that is saying alot). Now with that out of the way most of the users of LiNUX are ones that are truely interested in learning how to proplerly use their computer and how to learn how to use their operating system.

Windows is made for those that don't want to "delve" to deep into their computers and how they operate while LiNUX, even those distros that have GUI's, are still for those powerusers that like to have total control of their systems and know how to do basic system support for themselves and are technically oriented.

The whole idea that M$ should keep supporting OS's that are over 8 years old, from a techs perspective, is kinda rediculous. The reason I feel this way is that most programs that people use stop supporting OS's that have not been released on a "new box" computer in the last 5 years. These days a "basic" computer package can be gott'n for around 600 US. If you use a computer that still runs Win '98 then its time to update. The fact that M$ still supports products that are around 5 years old is nice, concidering that if you call up a company and ask for help with, say a radio, that is 7 years old and no longer made or sold new, then they pretty much say, "sorry, we can't help you."

Yes Windows has been release, in its many versions, have been buggy. Yet hasn't LiNUX also been buggy? The only real difference I see between the 2 operating systems is this...One is made for people that like to point and click, the other is made for people that want to be able to control and know how things work. Both have had many problems but since one costs alot of money and the other is free, people complain about having to pay lots of money and then load fixs for it.

no, Linux isn't buggy at all (nor is MacOS X). Reason? Both are based on UNIX. It has proven itself for 30+ years and we haven't had a massive glitch like Windows did.

xboxrulz

if linux and macOSx aren't buggy then why are the security forums now coming out and saying that their are known security flaws in them? EVERY OS has security flaws and buggs, its just that Linux is opensource so there are lots of people working on it and its free. Windows isn't.

If linux didn't have problem why are their so many different versions of it, and I'm not talking about different distro's I'm talking about different versions of the distros. Don't get me wrong I like linux but yes it does have bugs...they just get fixed fast is all.

And Linux is based on unix, it isn't unix. Yes its stable but it doesn't have the unix legacy.

This post has been edited by Logan Deathbringer: May 3 2006, 12:11 AM

That's right all Operating Systems have masses of bugs and security problems and they always will.

Windows is for people that don't want to screw around all day/week/month/year to get something productive done. Then again there are tons of developers for Windows obviously who know more then enough about computers.

Really.. they would have had to cut it off at some stage... those operating systems are very old.. I can understand that microsoft cutting off the support for that reason.. 98 is around 8 years old now, plus with the new vista comming out it is going to give microsoft a bit of a headache.
Only bad thing is the users still on 98/ME/2000..
What if they can't afford a newer one or if their computer isn't powerful enough to run XP and they can't upgrade their pc?
They can get 3rd party support somewhere i guess but microsoft needs to remember that those customers payed for that os.. it's like just chucking the manual out when they're pulling the plug on the support.

I think 98 and ME have the help center feature anyway, cutting normal technical support does seem like the thing to do. But. They have millions of articles in the knowledge base. They don't need to clear that too.

Hopefully vista will be less buggy (Ms won't need to cut support then i guess)

-HellFire

Ha, I bought a new printer that was unsupported only a few months later as they had released many new ones by then. New stuff is popping out all the time, but it's all minor incremental improvements.

I think these companies should keep their mouths and wallets shut until they do something to really be considered an improvement.