my windows system has updated without my consent. it says the system will restart after 5minutes. so i went to the shop trusting the laptop to stay on. came back and i lost my current page. i know i could have used history but is broke.

note. i know it is windows update by the event log in the computer management console in admin tools

xxxx-jozh-xxxx

Never had that situation before, then again I will not let it install without my approval. Else I just keep the system not-up-to-date until I feel like updating. At least on my Mac it shows you the extensive rundown of what is being downloaded.

xboxrulz

I just can't believe that anyone in today's society would ever believe that they have ultimate control over any computer. With the internet being what it is, available to everyone in the world --- duh world wide web ------ it is never secure to anyone. Just listen to the large companies that report that hundreds and thousands of their clients or employees or any other groups of information has been hacked by someone -- in the world -- and has been used to steal that information to use in an unlawful way. Why would you believe that MS would let you know what it was doing to all of the contracts that is has with the agreements everyone has just 'agreed to' without reading every word ' and often without reading any words' just to get past that part of the enrollment process of whatever files you want to get to

No matter how much control we think we have --- there is always a way to get beyond that.

You have agreed to Microsoft terms, and it's the same as any other contract you agree to. If you don't like it then don't install it. but if want to use xp or vista and get around these issues then get it. Having knowledge of the OS and not just the GUI side, you can modify the system from hidden programs, hidden windows services, settings, etc, leaving 50 - 75%of the system intact while keeping microft out making you the true administrator of the OS. Think about it. I use linux as my main OS since Windows ME came out and just for the simple fact that I can install and just run ( YES IS STILL MODIFY THE SYSTEM FOR MY ENVIROMENT ) and choose what is need or don't need. I still have xp and vista but both OS'S are modified. Example, my xp is stripped to 326mb and thats with sp2. Vista ultimate is have stripped down to 1.1gb. Currently Microsoft is setting out to launch Vista SP1, Which I will get and test, but only install on a Virtual machine, and then spend about a month or so to explore and understand what changes are being made and what is just a wasted of space, then modify the VSP1 to my liking. That should tell you something if you understand whats makes a computer run. I agree with this discussion what micrsoft is doing wrong, but also wanted to put this info out thier. If you don't know the OS your on then go back to dos or unix from the beggining and learn. the average user only runs windows from what they see, but in reality, they have know clue what makes it tick in the background.

P.S. YOU BUY A RADAR DETECTOR TOP OF THE LINE, THEN GET BUSTED FOR A NEW RADAR DETECTION SYSTEM THATS OUT. NOW YOU BOUGHT THE RADAR DETECTOR SO YOU COULD BREAK THE LAW BY SPEEDING, SO WHO ARE YOU PISSED OFF AT. THE COMPANY/RETAILER THAT YOU BOUGHT YOUR PRODUCT FROM OR YOUR SELF FOR NOT KEEPING UP WITH TODAYS TECHKNOWLEDGY THATS OUT THIER. THINK ABOUT IT WITH OS SYSTEMS.

-Audiobahn73