Yeah iv'e tried those methods, they'll catch public open proxies, but they aren't the problem.

These websites cop multiple accounts from people using anonymous proxy sign ups (MANY multiple accounts) to get ahead in the game.

If they use a public open proxy then I can know what there real IP is and if they already have an account, or other general trace.

But an anonymous one hides it, so I can't tell if they are legitimate or not.

That's complete bullshit. Anonymous proxies are great for all kinds of things that are perfectly legal and acceptable behavior. You're projecting the actions of the few who abuse them onto the many that don't.

Example, let's say you're in a country with a restrictive regime that blocks most web sites, including world news (like the Arab countries, and China). Known proxies are quickly found and added to the block list at the ISP edges, so the only ones that work for them are the anonymous ones that people put up.

Another example, let's say (in my case when I was in high school) I wanted to read the Starr report at school, as part of a report that already got my instructor's approval for the controversial content matter. The library computers there could not pull up any part of the report because it contained sexually charged language and the staff at the library did not know how to fix it, since the firewall operated at the district level. An anonymous proxy is what got me through that.

Final example, let's say I want to see how fast my site loads for someone in say, Germany. I use a German proxy to fetch the page and time it, then I subtract the time it takes to load the same amount of data from the proxy page itself.

In closing, there are many legitimate uses of anonymous proxies, and some people use them simply because they're paranoid. Either way, when you block them you cut off a segment of your visitors/customers. Just something to keep in mind.

In an online web browser game? (the purpose of this blocking of anonymous proxies).

School, Work or College: Shouldn't be playing it here anyway.

ISP Blocking sites: Who's problem is that? not mine lmao.

I know of, have played and participated (as staff) in a few such games and haven't heard of a single person with a legitimate excuse for using an anonymous proxy.

English sites don't tend to attract germans, arabs or chinese (within there respective countries)...... unless of course they have a good command of the english language.

This post has been edited by Chesso: May 22 2007, 03:12 PM

1. Do any of us live in China? I rest my case.
2. The answer to things like china is forcible revolution not proxies.
3. Using a German proxy won't tell you how fast from Germany as you have to connect to the proxy.
4. Open proxies can do just as good. You don't need anon. proxies.
5. Most people have PCs anyways at home and don't need to use their school one for anything but BS.

Tor is not blocked by an ISP and if your ISP doesn't want you getting it then get a new damn ISP. If I was an ISP I would like people following my guidelines. Look at it from their point of view.

In 90% of all sites proxies that are anon. are not legitimate, epically in an online browser game.

This post has been edited by SilverFox: May 22 2007, 09:53 PM

It doesn't matter whether any people here, right now, are living in China. Blocking proxies is a form of censorship. If you do, you take people's rights away. You can, you may, for "your server, your rules", just like the Chinese government can, for they set the rules in China. But no matter what the reasoning is, you're still taking away possibilities. Any assumption, be it "they are all criminals", "no user of mine lives in China", "most people do/are/want xxx anyways", will be not true for some subset. Denying this means you are being untruthful about what you are doing. For this reason I find your points and your unverifyable percentages particularly dishonest.

I'm not saying you can't block: I already said you can. I am saying any justification will be at least partly not true; there will be collateral damage. Question is, are you willing to live with what you're doing to your userbase?

In case you haven't stopped reading: I don't care at all whether you block. I do take offense at the backhanded reasoning. Just accept that you are censoring and be up front about it.

-Hunter