 Hints Point That Dell Will Be Pre-installing Ubuntu Soon! |
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 May 7 2007, 03:05 PM
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Premium Member  Group: [HOSTED] Posts: 393 Joined: 9-March 07 From: Tucson, AZ Member No.: 20,794  |
It's about ****ing time, I say. Finally I can order a computer for 300 bucks cheaper because of the micro$oft kickba...er, license fees.
I hope the put alot of effort into it; like perfectly customized kernel .configs per model to save alot of us linux users some serious time. While I'm not too thrilled about ubuntu (they *could* put gentoo on it) I'm still glad to see it coming without the microsoft tax. |
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May 7 2007, 04:58 PM
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Newbie [ Level 1 ]  Group: Members Posts: 6 Joined: 7-May 07 Member No.: 21,833 myCENTs:16.81 |
Is linux any good?! how the hell do you get it i want to try it.
and whats all the negativity towards microsoft and VISTA. I love VISTA!!! i have it and have no probs with it except some of the programs not working on it but not all programs run on Linux right? well anyway how do i get it? |
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May 7 2007, 06:33 PM
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Member - Active Contributor Group: Members Posts: 88 Joined: 5-April 07 From: Cusco - Peru Member No.: 21,283 |
I did participate in Dell's survey asking for a Linux distribution and programs people want to have pre-installed in a new Dell box. My choice was Ubuntu because is user friendly a decent enough to be managed for beginners.
Linux is not yet very: click-friendly for some Win-lovers, but if you never got a chance, you'll never know what for Linux is. I'm using Linux since 5 years ago, there are not other killer OS like this. If you love solid things and the sharing philosophy, you will love GNU/Linux and FLOSS will love you  Blessings! |
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May 7 2007, 08:23 PM
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Techno-Necromancer Group: Members Posts: 1,018 Joined: 13-January 05 From: The Net Member No.: 2,127 |
I'm not against Dell preloading their machines with Ubuntu, however, I wonder how this new market presence will actually affect things. Because unless new applications geared at the average home user start being written for Linux, I just don't see it winning out over Windows except for maybe businesses. And businesses are more likely to want a machine without any OS than one preloaded with Ubuntu. For example, the whole XPS line of computers is geared towards gamers, which is a market that Linux just doesn't cater to well.
~Viz |
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May 8 2007, 01:18 AM
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Way Out Of Control - You need a life :) Group: Members Posts: 1,086 Joined: 21-June 05 From: New York Member No.: 6,440 myCENTs:86.41 |
QUOTE Is linux any good?! how the hell do you get it i want to try it. Just Google to find free linux distributions. I forgot the exact name of the site that had a bunch of all the flavors (at least a bunch of them and whats all the negativity towards microsoft and VISTA. I love VISTA!!! i have it and have no probs with it except some of the programs not working on it but not all programs run on Linux right? )...I think something like Linux ISO or similar.But here is a site that lists some of the popular ones: http://linuxlookup.com/linux_iso Most linux operating systems are free...just need to have the speed to download them  While it's true that Linux might not have the same programs as on Windows, there is usually an alternative one made for them. It just requires you to adjust using a whole new operating system for those of us that are use to Windows. |
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May 8 2007, 01:49 AM
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Colonel Panic  Group: [MODERATOR] Posts: 2,847 Joined: 25-March 05 From: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Member No.: 3,233 myCENTs:31.07 |
QUOTE(unimatrix @ May 4 2007, 05:10 PM)  I've been waiting for Linux to overtake Microsoft for the last 8 years...hasn't happened yet and isn't going to anytime soon. I'll go another step further and say it's not going to happen. Liniux killed Unix in the server room. Any hope of Linux making a big dent in the mainstrem commical/end user's life was headed off at the pass by a little company called Apple. I know far more people that switched from Linux to MacOSX a number of years ago (me...well in my case it was BSD to MacOSX, but still), and havn't looked back. It still goes back to that little point that OSX's Unix based core is friendly enough to run just about any OSS software outthere that Linux users have and has commercial outfits like Adobe and Intuite (quicken/quickbooks) which makes it attractive to small business owners like me that are willing to pay a premium upfront not to have the other issues associated with Windows. Granted I am in the video production world and use Final Cut Studio...so it's not like I have a lot of platform choice there. Dell has long been locked into the Microsoft licensing hell. They were rather late into the Linux server market. I don't think it's hurt them all that much, but still they were one of the last major vendors to support it after IBM basically dumped AIX for Linux and clearly took an early lead. Then there was the marriage to Intel. It's only been in the last year (maybe two) that Dell began offering computers with AMD chips. I'm more of an Intel man myself, so that never bothered me, but still I heard so many people say: "I would buy Dell if..." First it was Linux...then it was, "Well I'd buy a dell with linux if it ran on AMD". I'm wondering what the excuse will be now? I've dealt with Dells a lot over the year and they generally build a good computer. But I've also had some issues with them. For instance I was working earlier this year with a Medical supply company. They were upgrading their systems and the software they were considering ran on XP, it was not yet Vista compatiable. The company had to wait until March to buy the system and then the only thing they could get from dell for the workstations was Vista. Maybe we could have gotten a couple boxes with Linux installed then walked over to Best Buy and get a couple XP Pro boxes. Still, though, that would have been more expensive than going with the local company that built the systems from scratch. (Not my first choice, but small business to small business transaction...my client's wouldn't listen to me...but everything worked out so far) At my school, the adoption rate shows that Apple isn't winning by too much. The full adoption rate shows that there are 2 more laptops run MacOS X than the numbers that run Linux. These users are usually not technically oriented. So, I guess I wonder how it'll turn out. From using my high school as the basis of my studies (approximately 300 people), at least half of the population has a laptop and about 20% - 25% of those are Macs compared to the previous school year of about less than 15%. Of those Macs, 60% are PPC based while the rest are Intel based. This study is of course unscientific as I just count the amount of Apple laptops to the laptops I've counted while walking through the hallways. xboxrulz |
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May 8 2007, 01:53 AM
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Cosmic Overlord Group: Members Posts: 560 Joined: 26-November 05 From: Denver, Colorado, US Member No.: 9,811 myCENTs:38.41 |
QUOTE(blackandwhiteentertainment @ May 7 2007, 10:28 PM) Is linux any good?! how the hell do you get it i want to try it. and whats all the negativity towards microsoft and VISTA. I love VISTA!!! i have it and have no probs with it except some of the programs not working on it but not all programs run on Linux right? well anyway how do i get it? How to get Linux? Well, WeaponX seemed to have answered it well. Now, for the second question. The negativity towards microsoft and Vista. Well, here is my opinion. Microsoft products is not free and Linux is free. Free in what terms - you may ask? I am not worried actually about the cost of software, and hence, it does not make much of a difference if the 'free' is taken in the meaning as in 'free beer'. The real 'free' that I would prefer would be in terms of 'freedom'. Here is a case. Say, last month, I bought some music - Best of Me album by Bryan Adams. I shelled out $10+ because I do not want to steal someones hardwork. I paid for it and now I would like to use the music anyway I want. I may want to load it to my music player. I may want to listen to it in my car (no, I do not have one - this is just an illustration). But, having Vista limits me from doing that and it does that under the facade of 'protecting intellectual property'. That is totally absurd. The DRM is one of the main barriers why I have 'negativity' towards Microsoft. Another issue: What about all the different versions of document format they keep bringing out. It forces me to keep upgrading to their newer versions even when I do not need all the new features. It does not let me stick with the version I have, and constantly want to suck on my hard earnings. The solution? Shift to a Open Source alternative. I do not mind paying someone for coding something. But it is when they force me to do business only with them, and force me to continously spend my money on them, that is when I start having negative feelings. But in case of Open Source, I need not worry about that. I have the source code with me, and in theory (and practice) I can always go to someone else with the same code and have it modified and upgraded. I have the choice. I am free to take any choice. We may speak further on this, but I believe that will be a topic that would be justified by its own thread. |
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May 9 2007, 12:07 PM
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Member - Active Contributor Group: Members Posts: 90 Joined: 4-April 07 From: Australia Member No.: 21,265 |
I personally wouldn't think that this would be a good thing. I mean, wouldn't that mean that Dell would be saving money and making more profits by not installing Windows and substituting for Ubuntu (which is for free)? (Damn that question had too many clauses.)
Would software that were originally designed for Windows (e.g. Photoshop) still work on Ubuntu? Unless of course they're going to make the PC dirt cheap then it's okay. |
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May 9 2007, 08:43 PM
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Premium Member Group: Members Posts: 219 Joined: 13-February 07 Member No.: 20,371 |
Well I think that this is a good move.... I mean it'll add more variety to PCs if it actually happens. Although I think we are getting a little ahead of it here, they haven't even announced it....
Also, about programs that were designed to run in windows, like photoshop running in ubuntu, that depends....some of them will run with something called wine, others will not. |
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May 12 2007, 01:51 AM
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Super Member Group: [HOSTED] Posts: 737 Joined: 12-July 06 From: Ontario, Canada Member No.: 14,464 |
I think that the public will need to be informed about using Linux first before such a move goes. This is because Linux is not that user-friendly if you are used to working with Windows. I mean, it looks like MS-DOS, because it is text-based.
But it is a step in the right direction. And also, more programs are becoming Linux-compatible, therefore it shouldn't be too much of a problem. One thing is, Internet Explorer usage will start to decline
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