I don't think the UAC is annoying becuase in Linux, you need to enter in your root password to install things all the time anyways. Even MacOS X requires it.

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I've been using Vista for a while now (1 month) and these are my conclusions:

Pos:
-Network Center is kinda usefull, but it need some tweaks
-Power Management is more advanced (usefull for laptops)
-the search bar in the start menu is super
-the drop-down menus in explorer are much better than having to go a few folders up and the going to the folder you like

Useless:
-Vista Aero interface (+ the win-tab thing)
-UAC (disabled it)
-the same annoying questions you got in SP2 (disabled defender, security center and program checking)
-the sh*tload of services (like indexing, diagnostic services, ...)
-the sh*tload of other useless stuff (windows cardspace, windows sidebar, ...)

Con:
-WMP11 is SLOW due to DRM
-nVidia GeforceGo drivers are still beta (this makes the windows gallery a sucky program, because themes don't work and zooming isn't optimized)
-tends to be slower
-not every program supports vista (eg. CDBurnerXP Pro (non-alpha version), Netstumbler, ...)


Overall, I'm pretty happy with Vista, altough it still needs some minor improvements (like removing the Protected Pipeline from WMP11 )

//edit: forgot to mention there isn't a good free vista compatible firewall atm and the Vista firewall only has inbound protection, no outbound as I prefer

This post has been edited by wutske: Apr 21 2007, 12:30 PM

A couple of comments on your conclusions.


Pos:
-Network Center is kinda usefull, but it need some tweaks
-Power Management is more advanced (usefull for laptops)
-the search bar in the start menu is super
-the drop-down menus in explorer are much better than having to go a few folders up and the going to the folder you like

And by 'useless' you actually mean, features that are there but you don't use. There is a big difference in not using features than proclaiming these to be useless in software. Windows wasn't catered for your needs, but a wide variety and types of users, of course you won't use certain aspects, don't mistake these for unnecessary aspects of the software. You're not the world.
Besides, what is 'useless' about it? There is much more to an interface than the color, the skin and the win-tab thing. I don't use the latter either as I have enough space on my 2 screens, the UI however is more consistent and 'flowing' than before. Not just the skin changed, but how the windows interact with each other and the data on the disks. You said yourself: 'the drop-down menus in explorer are much better'. This is in contradiction with the quote, unless you meant that Aero only applies to the skin. Myself, I find it more pleasant to work with.


Exactly, you disable it in a few mouse clicks. People who complain about these feature obviously don't know how to configure even a simple thing, and are better off with a mac anyways.

Again, how does that make it 'useless'? You're using 3rd-party software? Fine, but the built-in programs obviously work.


Since when are services, required for Windows features, a bad thing. Especially very useful ones like indexing and diagnostic services - unless you like waiting a dozen minutes for simple search results or fancy plain guessing what is wrong with your computer. You said yourself: "-the search bar in the start menu is super".

Go to start menu, type in services.msc
A list of all services will be displayed, how they're being run, and what they do. You'll see not that many are booted at start, you can disable some you don't use. 'Shitload' is exaggerated and also quite stupid, no devices means no features.

Very slow? What made you come to that conclusion (I'm curious), think you're a bit paranoid about DRM even though none of your data is modified. No problems here and first time I hear it is that SLOW.


Never heard of those programs, but the more popular certainly did. Obviously not every program is compatible with a certain system, and it's going great. Tried running those in compatibility mode?


Same, also only need a firewall for outbound. Wonder when zonelabs gets running - nero and other AV like Nod32 have been long compatible.

Alegis, I agree with wutske about Aero being very useless, even I turn it off. However, I am curious how is WMP11 slow ... I never had any slowdowns over here.

xboxrulz

Wow, that article is old, just looking at the KDE version its running.

xboxrulz

There are a lot of issues regarding installing Vista and the blue screen is always there. Upgrade dont always work and the installation guide is not usefull anyway. The installation recommendation software is a buggy soft that wont tell the truth.

All i can see on Vista are pure icandy but i will give my thumbs up on some kernel upgrades.

I wont buy or use the Vista for this 2 main reasons.
1. what is see in VIsta is existing in Mac OSX, heck, the only difference I can see is that positioning and skins. Mac OSX is open source and I can always find ways to upgrade it without any fee unlike windows.

2. Allmost all that Vista can do is available with Ubuntu + Beryl. This combo gives you a 3 domensional desktop with 3 dimensional System. You are amaze with the alt-tab with vista? Try 3D desktop switching with Beryl.

One of the lest thing reason I wont buy Vista
1. There are lots of choices to pick from meaning that M$ is not really on end user experience but on making huge cash.
How would you know which one is the one you need.

It is always better to provide only 3 kinds of system
a. Home edition
b. Professional Editon
c. Server Edition

Of course all of these must provided the upgrade programs.

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One downside of Vista is that you need to install this from DVD.. Not all have DVD drives so if you want to install the OS, buy a DVD.. I dont bet the DVD will run on Blue Ray disc since I am getting some "non standard" data content in its burning method. Blue Ray only Accepts standardize burning algorithym which may makes the DVD unreadble on my blue ray drive.

Frankly, I wont change my blue ray drive for a DVD. I can burn 10 DVD into one blue ray disc and it is accesable with my linux and Windows OS.

I don't see that much great new things coming out of Vista...
I've seen it a couple times and used it.

A friend of mine bought a laptop a couple months ago, it was the shittiest cheapest new laptop at the store, had like 512mb (Might even be 256) of Ram and crap like that... And the people at Futureshop refused to put anything but Vista on it <__<. And this guy is too lazy and incompetant to switch the windows version to anything else his computer can really use, so he's stuck with a $900 laptop that is slow as **** because it can barely support Vista at all.

Just thought I'd toss my little story out there
I see very few real pro's to using Vista right now, and the major can that it requires way too much resources as it's really worth.

i would'nt buy vista beacause it costs money and all it will do is slow down your computer if you build your computer yourself and it's a new computer run linux on it because it is free and it's the fastest if you buy an already made pc and it comes with vista then hey why not use it? microshaft is a pretty bad company their zune did'nt even work with vista until just recently! and everyone knows apple ipods are better! if i were you i would invest in a macintosh computer they can run vista which is pretty cool so on a mac i might dual boot vista but overall i would buy the next osx build because osx is waayyy nicer. so meh linux and mac ftw.

I think you should wait until they fix all the bugs, or wait until programs are compatible with vista. Because I have heard many problems with vista concerning the compatiblity of programs. It also causes instability to your system if you computer can not handle vista, so becareful of that as well. All I heard of vista was direct x 10 being on it that greatly improves game performance and such. But there were also customers that also like to differ. So its been a very conflicting issue with how vista has launched. RIght now I am acutally waiting till everything is sorted out before making any purchase of any decision of upgrading my operating system to vista. I just have too many programs that I need that it would take me too long to back up just in case vista crashes my computer. Like they say if it aint broke dont fix it. hehe.