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> Red Screen Of Death!, Vista to abandon BSOD and go with RSOD
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post Nov 27 2006, 01:11 AM
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QUOTE(BitShift @ Nov 26 2006, 07:14 PM) *

It is utterly pointless.

I bet there main target for doing this is to scare ignorant users into taking there computers in to be fixed every time they see a "red" screen because it will feel much more serious then the regular blue screen.

I could imagine them just putting on the red screen - "Your copy of Windows Vista is permnantly damaged, please buy another one" - That wouldn't surprise me.



lol, me neither.

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post Nov 27 2006, 06:24 AM
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Hi.

Another aspect of the color change will be its health issued. Many people have issues with certain colors on computers, mainly being red. And as BitShift said, changing the color doesnt really fix anything. An error is an error in my book. Another problem with the BSOD & RSOD is that many times they're not displayed long enough to assess the situation. I believe microsoft could come up with a more appealing user freiendly and more helpfule critical error system. Personally i believe Windows Vista will be Microsoft's downfall. Microsoft needs to focus on producing a stable, multi-industry functional operating system even if this means a long, unwanted development period.
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post Nov 27 2006, 12:40 PM
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Changing the ever so infamous BSOD? to RSOD? haha, this is rather amusing. I think it is pointless what is the point just to alarm users of windows that they messed up their computer to a point beyond repair? Red or Blue it really doesnt matter, they should concentrate on figuring out how windows can fix itself from the error that is caused by the user than to alarm and scare the user with a RED screen that they really messed up their computer.

Im pretty sure that RSOD will be putting rookie or not so computer friendly people into shock and stress when they see that screen. RED is a rather intense color and it is a general color for danger...haha, boy does window makers know how to scare their users away instead of calming them with a nice screen that shows them how to fix the problem that they have caused.
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post Nov 27 2006, 10:37 PM
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I'm thinking about a Windows Vista user calling a "computer doctor":

User: Doctor, I can only see an error screen on my Windows!!

"Doctor": Is it blue or red?

User: RED Doctor! It's the RED one!

"Doctor": OMG... what about buying a new computer?
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post Nov 28 2006, 12:04 AM
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Ha i tested the beta, and saw alot of this little devil...

Anyhow its really startling, compared to the usual blue screen and i think i may know why... do a quick survey of your screen right now and look for blue... then look for red.. shouldnt be too hard to find for red is a very rare color style-wise theese days on most everything... usually its just white or a cooler blue..


Maybe Microsoft wants to really put the foot down on letting you know when your screwed.... who knows biggrin.gif...

I, however dont care about how my error screens look, for i really dont expect too many... ive had a program where it had options for the style of your error messages... and yeah it kind of gives you an odd feeling of the durability of what your using..-
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post Nov 28 2006, 04:34 AM
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As far as i can see it is not entirely pointless, but it would be for the average user that can read. If a visualy impared person (or someone who can't read properly) gets one i guess it would be easier for them to notice if it is a serious error or just a small one.
But what i would suggest for the average user is give a more detailed error message so they know exactly what happened, what went wrong and steps to fix it in plain english.
Also i'd like to see an option to turn on advanced error messages for the more advanced users.

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The day people can actually understand BSoD messages, is when apple takes over Microsoft. Couse, when that happens....there will be no BSoD. <3.

Isn't this just pointing out that Windows Vista is ganna have a lot of errors?

Bill Gates: Ok guys. I know Vista is ganna stink, so just to prepare, lets change the BSoD to a RED SCREEN OF DEATH! Because there are going to be a lot of errors! Ya!

oh...I can't wait.
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post Nov 29 2006, 01:51 AM
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QUOTE(xboxrulz @ Nov 25 2006, 09:10 PM) *

I think that Microsoft should redesign their BSoD so that regular users can actually read what the heck is wrong with the system instead of just pumping out the debug information!

Heck, even Linux's kernel panics can be easily read than Microsoft's BSoDs.

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Lol, but then most people would not know how to fix thier system. The debug info helps us techs figure out what the problem is. Hell if the BSOD scares me and im a tech, i can't wait to freak out when i get the red one.
It is possible to switch the BSOD in the windows registry in Safe Mode, you can also turn it off and have windows restart!
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post Nov 29 2006, 10:59 AM
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Been using Vista for 2 years now, and ever since RC1 haven't gotten a single BSOD. And I did use it with a lot of pressure, various things going on.

Really glad with Vista. OS I work the fastest and most efficient on by far. If I had a computer with lower resources than this high-end PC I'd most likely use Linux, but definitely not now.
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post Nov 29 2006, 01:36 PM
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Well, even though I don't believe changing colors depending on the severity of errors would make a big difference for Microsoft or its product users, there might be some valid reasons behind it...


1) It could help the visually-impaired to a certain extent. I mean, aside from Total color Blindness (a.k.a. Visual Agnosia), there are two types of color blindness: Red-Green and Blue-Yellow. So people with either of these two types can differentiate between a *red* and a *blue* screen.


2) I haven't tested Vista yet so this might be totally wrong, but perhaps the BSoD is now reserved for serious warnings rather than mild errors. Or maybe the RSoD only appears when the Operating System is faced with something really detrimental that won't be solved by merely restarting the PC. Unfortunately, I don't have the time at the moment to check the validity of this assumption, but perhaps those of you who know more about Vista can shed some light on this? It'd be great smile.gif


3) Perhaps, for some reason, Microsoft customers' feedback asked for this feature. I think it's rather unrealistic to assume that big enough a number of customers asked for such a feature/change to grant its actual implementation, but who knows!


4) Its another one of Microsoft utterly out-of-the-blue, useless changes that keep showing up every now and then. It could be just a publicity stunt of sorts. It could be a feeble attempt to promote Vista as having yet another new feature. Microsoft is well-known for its being a marketing company more than for anything else.



All in all, although I don't think this is something that will have actual impact on the user experience itself, I don't see a real problem with having it. After all, it *supposedly* won't come up unless a PC is really screwed. And since I very rarely encountered a BSoD using XP, I'll give Microsoft the benefit of doubt and assume that a RSoD is going to appear even more rarely in Vista smile.gif



Cheers.
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