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vhortex
post Oct 26 2006, 02:41 PM
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QUOTE(loca_mami13 @ Oct 26 2006, 04:27 PM) *

Thank you guys for trying ot help but the laptop does not have any disk drives att all no floppy or cd, IT also does not have any connection to the internet so i can not download a file, and the usb ports need to have drivers installed which i can not do on a guest account is there any other ways with out needing soft wear, i do not need ro know the old password, it woul be great if i could atleast creat a new account with admin privlegeges.


well.. there are no other legal ways i can think of to get that computer going again.. in order to create a new admin account.. you need to be an admin or make the system think you are an admin..

got it? "make the system think you are an admin.."

i dont know what is installed from that computer but windows xp have do lots of things that should not been there anyway.. you only need to reach command shell while using "real mode", cant remember much but i guess that was we call being in a state that the windows gui is.. the part where you can multitask..

sorry... i started modifying DOS 4.x as my start carrer in pc.. that was when i am 12 years old..

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though possible to create a new account using "non legit ways".. you do have a higher risk of trashing your entire partition.. an option you cannot afford.. plus.. i am not sure if all the parts to execute the trick was present on your machine.. things will be worse if you are on NTFS.. i have done that while on FAT32..

there was a glitch in windows anyway.. if your login was network style.. the one which you type your username and password then you are in luck.. you can create a normal account which can be upgraded to an admin with some tricks.. doing so will have a great seatbacks.. you risk loosing alot of the files that was deleted and will throw alot of chances of recovering them..


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i dont kow what happen.. if your friend have deleted the admin account you have created and you dont know the default admin password.. then it means, your friend is operating as an admin.. there was no known method to delete the current user and even in linux and other system, that was not allowed..

your friend have either created an admin account or knows the password of the default admin.. the most logical reason i can think off.. if your friend to deleted the account, then you are on much trouble since you need to reformat.. why? you have a malfunctionning windows and who knows what will happen to it next..

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case you really need to open that up.. go find some network to connect your laptop to.. i know that all laptops have a built-in lan card.. just plug that in a network and copy the needed file into it..

easier is to copy the sam file as describe above. first boot into dos shell.. no windows loaded please.. a running windows will block the sam file for reading and writing.. most of the time reading only..

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i will not further discuss the steps to do to trick windows but do some research on memory alterations and memory freezing.. reason i wont discuss is that it is not allowed here and the most and greatest reason i have is that you can trash the whole harddrive on error..

cheers...
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post Oct 26 2006, 11:32 PM
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First of all, it is NOT POSSIBLE to erase the default Administrator account, not unless you have created two other accounts with administrator rights.
Second, why would anyone want a laptop that has no floppy, no cd/dvd and no internet?
My guess is that it is a (very) old machine, so my advice would be to follow the sugestion someone already gave: buy a new laptop and offer your old to your friend so she can finish the rest of it... smile.gif
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post Oct 27 2006, 07:51 AM
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QUOTE(binary_mind @ Oct 26 2006, 04:32 PM) *

First of all, it is NOT POSSIBLE to erase the default Administrator account, not unless you have created two other accounts with administrator rights.
Second, why would anyone want a laptop that has no floppy, no cd/dvd and no internet?
My guess is that it is a (very) old machine, so my advice would be to follow the sugestion someone already gave: buy a new laptop and offer your old to your friend so she can finish the rest of it... smile.gif
[b]The Default account is not deleted, but I do not know the password, i tried not entering a password and that didi not work, I had the computer to where you click on username and you do not need a password, I had 1 account that showed up it was my name and it had administrator rights. I have no idea what my friend did, but when she brought my computer back the next day it has the box where you type the username and password, The name in the box said Jason Bembers, and i have not seen that name on the computer att all, it was not there previously when i was changing user accounts, but my friend said she did not enter it neither, i tried safe mode and got nothing, then i tried ctrl+alt+del nope tried blank password, tried the password i had on there befor, i tried the one that it had when i got the laptop, i finally got logged in by typing guest with no password, bbut as i guest i cold not do anything. I tried command prompt, but i always ended up getting an access denied message so i tried regedit, I managed to give the guest account administrator permisions on somethings, but none of them ended up helping, it would not let me change any system folders or anything, If someone can please help me like if anyine knows anything I can do in cmd prompt, or regedit feel free to message me or email me. ALso the laptop is not very old, its a toshiba, the screen flips around and it turns into a tablet, it had a base but my daughter spilled something in it and it got fried it was not fixable, and i do not have enough money right now to buy a new one, I really need to get into this computer though as soon as possible.
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post Oct 27 2006, 11:33 AM
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QUOTE(loca_mami13 @ Oct 26 2006, 10:27 AM) *

Thank you guys for trying ot help but the laptop does not have any disk drives att all no floppy or cd, IT also does not have any connection to the internet so i can not download a file, and the usb ports need to have drivers installed which i can not do on a guest account is there any other ways with out needing soft wear, i do not need ro know the old password, it woul be great if i could atleast creat a new account with admin privlegeges.


Just one question and i'll reply when i come back from my job. ¿Does your laptop have any USB ports? ¿Can it be booted from USB?
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post Oct 27 2006, 02:31 PM
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Ok, don't lose hope (yet).
I suspect someone may have been messing around with your computer, because all this situation sounds too much of an 'accident' to me... unsure.gif
You say you gave your "Guest" account administrative rights, GREAT.
Have you tried to create a new account?
If you haven't, do so, but dont' use the any of previous or predefined names, use something like "fix" or "temp" (you will later delete this account, so it really doesn't matter). Also, give it administrator rights, and don't use a password.

Ok, this first step should make your computer usable and more reliable, so you can continue to fix it.
Please tell me if you can do this, so i can continue to help you.
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post Oct 27 2006, 06:45 PM
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QUOTE(binary_mind @ Oct 27 2006, 07:31 AM) *

Ok, don't lose hope (yet).
I suspect someone may have been messing around with your computer, because all this situation sounds too much of an 'accident' to me... unsure.gif
You say you gave your "Guest" account administrative rights, GREAT.
Have you tried to create a new account?
If you haven't, do so, but dont' use the any of previous or predefined names, use something like "fix" or "temp" (you will later delete this account, so it really doesn't matter). Also, give it administrator rights, and don't use a password.

Ok, this first step should make your computer usable and more reliable, so you can continue to fix it.
Please tell me if you can do this, so i can continue to help you.

no it still will not let me do that but atleast i can open up control panel with out getting an access denied message. but in user accounts if i try to make a new account it says that i need to log on as administrator.


Yes the laptop has usb ports but it say that there are no drivers, and it says you must be an administrator to intall drivers
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post Oct 27 2006, 06:52 PM
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QUOTE(loca_mami13 @ Oct 26 2006, 01:27 PM) *

Thank you guys for trying ot help but the laptop does not have any disk drives att all no floppy or cd, IT also does not have any connection to the internet so i can not download a file, and the usb ports need to have drivers installed which i can not do on a guest account is there any other ways with out needing soft wear, i do not need ro know the old password, it woul be great if i could atleast creat a new account with admin privlegeges.


ok don't be disappointed. one last thing u want to try? in my experience the best solution. it's atip and normally nobody knows. you think ur account was administrator account? u are wrong. it is not. ur account has administrator rights but it's not administrator. so u need to access administrator account. how to do it? it's a bit tricky.

1. turn on your computer.
2. before it comes to windowsXp logo, press F5 and F8 togather, again and again.. keep tabing untill u see a menu. (only one of those buttons work and i dont remember which one. so try both togather.)

3. now in that menu select "SAFE MODE" do not select "Safe Mode with Networking" or "Safe Mode with Comand Prompt".

windows will start in safe mode. here you'll see an account name as "Administrator". Not as your name. This is the real Administrator account.
4. Click this account and there won't be any password. (if you or anybody else have never set one).

Here you go.. do whatever you wanna do (except any more destruction). restart. And that's it.
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post Oct 27 2006, 07:04 PM
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QUOTE(Hasan Arbab @ Oct 27 2006, 11:52 AM) *

ok don't be disappointed. one last thing u want to try? in my experience the best solution. it's atip and normally nobody knows. you think ur account was administrator account? u are wrong. it is not. ur account has administrator rights but it's not administrator. so u need to access administrator account. how to do it? it's a bit tricky.

1. turn on your computer.
2. before it comes to windowsXp logo, press F5 and F8 togather, again and again.. keep tabing untill u see a menu. (only one of those buttons work and i dont remember which one. so try both togather.)

3. now in that menu select "SAFE MODE" do not select "Safe Mode with Networking" or "Safe Mode with Comand Prompt".

windows will start in safe mode. here you'll see an account name as "Administrator". Not as your name. This is the real Administrator account.
4. Click this account and there won't be any password. (if you or anybody else have never set one).

Here you go.. do whatever you wanna do (except any more destruction). restart. And that's it.

That was the first thing i tried to do and they key is F8 but the Administrator account has a password
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post Oct 27 2006, 09:38 PM
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Ok, never mind whether the OS loaded drivers for USB. What i refer to is that the laptop can or cannot boot from a USB drive attached to one of the available USB ports. If the laptop is not so old, the BIOS system might be capable for booting up a clean system from a USB Hard Disk, CD drive or just a cheap Pendrive of 64-128MB or so (i advice you to check the laptop manuals for such a setting).

My idea is the following: You create a bootable system containing the image of Hirens Boot CD. You do this by following these steps. This "Hirens" is a great set of tools for diagnosing and repairing damaged systems. This set contains a utility that can be used to RESET the administrator password on all versions of Windows 2000 and XP.

Of course you don't need to start windows in order to work with "hirens CD USB version". This is full done by booting from USB, as Hirens works from MS-DOS (more accurate to say, a compatible FREE-DOS).

Once you reset/change the admin password, you can access the admin account because you know the new one.
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post Oct 27 2006, 09:52 PM
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If you need to do some thing you must have some sort of Input medium..try if you can get a CD drive for a quick fix.
Here is a guide to reset passwords :
http://alieneyes.wordpress.com/2006/07/18/...tor-password-2/
Yes I think the administrator account can be disabled using the system account here is how to access the system account but be cautious
http://alieneyes.wordpress.com/2006/10/23/...unt-in-windows/
There is a chance that you may make more serious damages to your system if you don't take enough care I think you will be able to try this as you now have a Guest account on your machine..

Hoping that will help smile.gif

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