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abhiram
post Mar 9 2006, 03:39 AM
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click the wrong button, maybe start downloading FreeBSD by accident, then go make a coffee.


You speak from experience perhaps? biggrin.gif

But yea, I had that problem. Got a new cable connection at home once and didn't look at the download limit. Just kept downloading and downloading and finished the month's quota in 10 days biggrin.gif.
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post Mar 9 2006, 04:02 PM
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I think people are not getting the part of 2GB download. It is going to cost a lot for it to be viable.

Anyway, we have much greater connections now. At the college I am about to attend, they will be improving their connection to 6GB. This involves a lot of wires and redirects. They already have 2GB, and from my induction day, it was like opening pages that are on your computer.

Just remember, that the internet connection can be 5TB, but the computer handling the requests will be limited to it's processor and memory as well as page file.

Answer to abhiram, your download isn't judged on your upload. You could download from a server quicker than you can upload to it.
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post Mar 10 2006, 02:18 AM
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Answer to abhiram, your download isn't judged on your upload. You could download from a server quicker than you can upload to it.


I meant the upload speed of the server that I'm connecting to. If the guy running the server (in Cambodia say) has only a 2mbps connection, my 2gbps connection will at max get me data at 2mbps only right?

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post Mar 14 2006, 12:23 AM
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QUOTE(abhiram @ Mar 9 2006, 08:18 PM) *

I meant the upload speed of the server that I'm connecting to. If the guy running the server (in Cambodia say) has only a 2mbps connection, my 2gbps connection will at max get me data at 2mbps only right?


Yes, that's the maximum speed. The server's 2mbps connection is like a bottleneck to your connection. I don't know if that will be the actual speed, though. I'm not an expert at this.
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post Mar 14 2006, 02:20 AM
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The actual speed is limited in the following order by various limiters, the maximum speed is the slowest speed of the limiters, usually disregarding order, although sometimes order can be important for timeout. Because the order generally does not matter, I may mess up a few orders, or leave some minor things out, but this should give you a general detail.

1) The maximum upload speed of the server, no information download can be faster than this.
2) The maximum upload speed from the server to the particular client. Since servers may have multiple connections downloading simultaneously, bandwidth is split between them. Therefore a particular client's maximum download speed can be no faster than the bandwidth the server has alotted to that connection.
3) The maximum bandwidth of any intermediate connections. Since the internet does not connect two computers directly, but through a network of other computers, if one of the intermediate computers has a slower bandwidth (in this example, the upload speed) than the server, the intermediate connection will slow down the data transfer.
4) The client's maximum download speed. No matter how much data comes in, he client can only read o much of it. Good servers will detect the client download speed before sending data, because if the server sends too much more than the client can handle at a time, it can cause data loss as buffers overflow.

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post Mar 14 2006, 02:20 AM
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I've got a 3mbps connection but the upload rate is pethetic (35K). I've got the fastest DSL for residential property my phone company offers! smile.gif It's not bad and I like it! I usually run 2mbps though, but I've hit OVER 3mbps sometimes, but it is just a spike and doesn't last long but it is still enjoyable...

I remember when I still had AOL. I'd download at like 1K. Now on my DSL connection, I can download at 320K normally! wooo! lol

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post Mar 14 2006, 02:54 AM
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I have no idea what the heck my upload/download rate is from my ISP, I find it is usually more restricted by the other computer than by mine or my isp. Also, I have no idea what my bandwidth id, but suffice it to say there have beens everal months where I have downlaoded all four isos for Fedora Cores at least 10 times, so it's safe to say I have, for my purposes, unlimited. Can't wait till college, my college has a gigabit uplink to the net, imageine how fast that's gonna turn out to be considering all of the factors outside campus to slow it down tongue.gif

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post Apr 18 2006, 03:57 AM
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QUOTE(vizskywalker @ Mar 14 2006, 09:54 AM) *

I have no idea what the heck my upload/download rate is from my ISP, I find it is usually more restricted by the other computer than by mine or my isp. Also, I have no idea what my bandwidth id, but suffice it to say there have beens everal months where I have downlaoded all four isos for Fedora Cores at least 10 times, so it's safe to say I have, for my purposes, unlimited. Can't wait till college, my college has a gigabit uplink to the net, imageine how fast that's gonna turn out to be considering all of the factors outside campus to slow it down tongue.gif

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How much cost for those width in Your Country anyway, in my country (Indonesia) was very very expensive, I guess, for the only 500 MB download+upload (monthly) would cost 200.000 Rupiahs or for 21 US$
The unlimited would be 220 US$ per month.
And it's still be monopolizied by a company....


STill sad by the cost
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post Apr 18 2006, 07:31 AM
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Well looking at the trends of manufacturing fiber optics - especially those with a very high degree of clarity is increadibly cheap now a days .. read this.. It's the diogital to optical converters that currently pose problems of speed of processing power and also the cost of manufacture. The world in general is still burdened by the physical limitations of chips being able to perform at a limited rate.

Light of course is the fastest physical medium in which to transmit data.. however as long as the encoding and decoding pachines at each end are limited by their physical processing power, the use of fiber optics and even light through vaccum will be limited by the sending and receiving medium's processing ability.

This is one of the reasons why there's a huge thrust towards quantum computing and computers. This will bring about the ability to undertake the processing that would enable truely high speed processing to enable encoding and translation to and between digital and optical data. I'm talking at over 100's of terabits/sec kind of stuff.
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It sounds nice in theory but put in practice, is it even necessary for a home user? It's always nice to have more then we need but the faster we can download and or upload the more bandwidth we'll need.

I'm on an ADSL (because Telstra here in Australia are cheap and won't install the ncessary cable ines) 512/128kbps and I can smash the 10gb bandwidth limit (that includes down and up) in a few days without effort.

Even after the 64kbps capping I can hit 50gb bandwidth usage in a month..... downloading lots of linux distributions and updating site content etc.

Still it would be fun to play with wouldn't it?
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