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sandeep
post May 31 2006, 06:15 AM
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hi all,
Have u guys seen any consipiracy videoabout the landing of Neil Armstrong on moon. The video gives many arguments and generates some doubts about whether really the landing on moon occured or it was just a rumor by Nasa.

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post May 31 2006, 12:46 PM
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I know I've seen that and frankly I put as much faith in it as any other conspiracy story. They are fun to listen to and awesome to get into debates about but I mean, you can make almost anything LOOK like a conspiracy if you try hard enough. It's just a matter of determination hehe.

Frankly I don't see any reason why they would have faked it... I could understand if it was at a time when the U.S. was hurting for money and needed some huge cash cow so they could give that as an excuse to the populace for where the funds are going and then in reality just hoax them and siphon the money off... but the U.S. wasn't in such a situation lol. Also there has been various technological advances based on research done originally for space exploration... which wouldn't be getting done if everything was a hoax. I dunno, I just don't buy it heh.

Like I said though, its fun to think about and talk about biggrin.gif There are other conspiracies I enjoy more, like the various secret societies and old school big brother stuff (before it was technologically easy to believe it was possible), area 51, other myths claimed to be fact.
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post May 31 2006, 12:51 PM
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It was real because I was 16 years old when it happened and watched it on televiaion (as crappy as it was back in 1969) no color or any of that. Even today in holywood nor in any production studio is there a way to recreate the gait and movements of those pictures that were sent back from then moon, theycertainly could reproduce it in Hollywood back then and they still can't today so it is just another wild theory probably with more flaws than fact (if any).
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post May 31 2006, 05:26 PM
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I don't see why it wouldn't be real. I mean, I just don't understand why everyone is always looking to disprove things! And you know what, even if it is fake, can't people just trust the goverment that they faked it for a good cause, and that maybe the general population doesn't know something very important that the goverment does know, and that maybe sometimes people are not as smart as they think?! This arrogance always annoys me, and that's just what it is. I'm not saying we should be corporate drones, we shouldn't take things for granted, but I'm just saying that sometimes we have to allow ourselves to admit that we might not know everything.




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post Jun 1 2006, 08:47 AM
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again one of those debates... now I hear all of those stories:
- the flag is moving but where does the wind comes from?
- there is no stars in the background?
- the sand dosen't look real
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Well, I think they landed on the moon. And if I could have enough large telescope I would prove that also cool.gif
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post Jun 1 2006, 11:37 AM
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I first heard the moon landing conspiracy theory about ten years ago, when I was an avid reader of The X Factor magazine (nothing to do with Simon Cowell - it was a sci-fi/paranormal magazine) and to be honest, I spent quite a long time questioning the validity of the photos, and the whole idea of the moon landings in general. There are a lot of elements of the photography in particular that would suggest that they are not genuine. There is no denying that the moving flag, the difference in shadow lengths of Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin, the reflection of light in areas that should be in shadow, footprints where there should be none, letters seemingly carved in moon rocks and many other examples, can add fuel to anybody's doubt.

So what are we supposed to believe?

I personally think that the photos ARE fake. But before any of you jump down my throat, hear me out on this. The moon landings weren't fake.

I susequently decided that it is just slightly possible that we were all expecting something completely different to what was actually found up there, so the photos were created back home, to keep the dream alive. We all fantasize about sometime in the future colonizing the moon, and I think that maybe whatever was found up there means it is impossible. But why shatter the dreams of billions of people? Brainwave! Tell them what they want to hear!

I am an amateur astronomer, and I love looking at the moon, hoping that it is still possible, and I think that NASA are probably still trying to find a way to get us up there. After all, why would they be offering us the chance to visit the moon - at ridiculous expense I might add.

There's my thought on the matter. Take from it what you will...

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post Jun 1 2006, 02:35 PM
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I personally think that the photos ARE fake.


Becibear have a very good point there. After all, they are disputing the the stuff in the photo. Personally, I believe that US did land someone on the moon.

Guess this conspiracy about US landing men on moon(not the photo) could be answered in the not too distant future if NASA decided to send someone to Mars without first having another moon landing. I don't think even the mighty NASA would attempt a Mars human landing mission without having the experience and data of a moon landing mission. And the Mars human landing mission could come pretty soon with US "strategic competitor", that is China, preparing for a human moon landing mission, possibly in the next 5-10 years. Once that happens, NASA would get a huge increase in budget and viola... Martians, here we come! smile.gif
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post Jun 1 2006, 03:12 PM
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yeh, you are implying that if they have a "manned mission to mars' that they wouldn't just fake that one too wink.gif I mean if they didn't actually go to the moon, why would they be any more likely to go to any other planet? Nothing out there but rocks anyways hehe biggrin.gif No oil wink.gif
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post Jun 1 2006, 03:42 PM
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Haha.... funny.... but you never know whether there is oil there.. smile.gif

Well, with our current progress in technology, i think nations can determine with certainty whether a manned mission to mars actually happen. Of course, since I am no astronomer or satelite scientist, I could be terribly wrong. But if Russia, China and other nations would to say that they have proof or something like that, to me that is good enough. Not sure though about the hard core conspiracy believers...

Hehe... never underestimate the power of rivalry. I say if NASA did have a manned mars mission without first planning a manned moon mission, then it would lay to rest this conspiracy theory. I don't think the US President or the Congress would just sit there after China has a successful manned moon mission. Come on, can you think of the headlines when China has a manned mars mission first before US? smile.gif
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post Jun 1 2006, 04:01 PM
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But I mean China might just be a shadow government for the american controlled east :| hahaha. VIVE LA CONSPIRACIES!!!
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