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deivid
post Sep 15 2004, 05:28 PM
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In interview Stephen Toulouse Microsoft's security program manager, he was caughted using firefox biggrin.gif, maybe ie really sucks, themselves not dare to use it... and beside it have 102012923239231 security holes...


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Meanwhile, Firefox and Opera look awfully appealing.
Security is really an industry-wide problem. Just this morning I had to install an update to Firefox to block a flaw that would've allowed an attacker to run a program on my system.


http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/12.09/view.html?pg=3
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post Sep 16 2004, 01:06 AM
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lol, ie must have many security flaws if microsoft's security manager doesn't use it. Soon, when firefox gets popular, people are gonna discover flaws. But it's open source it might be harder to find flaws.
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post Sep 16 2004, 01:29 AM
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QUOTE(kelp @ Sep 16 2004, 02:06 AM)
lol, ie must have many security flaws if microsoft's security manager doesn't use it. Soon, when firefox gets popular, people are gonna discover flaws. But it's open source it might be harder to find flaws.
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security flaws have been found.... the difference is as its open source, its usually fixed within a few hours of discovery... whereas flaws in Microsoft internet Explorer take anywhere from 6 moths to 2 years to fix..... (assuming they make a genuine effort to fix every flaw they find)

but be be fair.... some of the firefox vunrabilitys were due to the underlying OS..and were only exploitable on win32 systems wink.gif
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post Sep 16 2004, 04:55 AM
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so the question is who is better, of course firefox has vulnerabilities, but the same security program manager use firefox....come on it's something to think, which program at the moment is the best...

Hails for firefox...
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post Sep 16 2004, 11:14 PM
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Well see thats the problem. Firefox is open source. If people start to use Firefox more than Internet Exploder... then hackers will exploit the source for FireFox and it will become a less appealing browser for users everywhere. Meh i'm sticking with IE... too hard to migrate to another browser though I do have Mozilla dusting on my laptop's hard drive
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QUOTE(currahee @ Sep 16 2004, 05:14 PM) *
Well see thats the problem. Firefox is open source. If people start to use Firefox more than Internet Exploder... then hackers will exploit the source for FireFox and it will become a less appealing browser for users everywhere. Meh i'm sticking with IE... too hard to migrate to another browser though I do have Mozilla dusting on my laptop's hard drive


Actually, Internet Explorer isn't insecure just because of it's popularity:
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While it is reasonable to argue that a popular application will be more likely to attract attention from malicious people, the evidence shows that there are deeper problems with Internet Explorer than just popularity. Since early 2005, Internet Explorer has been steadily losing market share, yet its present vulnerability count and rate of vulnerability discovery have continued to increase. Furthermore, Internet Explorer has taken an average of roughly 50 times as long as Firefox or Opera to fix critical exploited vulnerabilities after they have been discovered. As the popular Apache web server has shown against its less popular rival IIS, it's very possible to be the most popular application in a class and still suffer fewer vulnerabilities and attacks.


Hackers will exploit the source for Firefox, but so what? If they create a newer insecure browser that was security holes in it or is to capture sensitive that, will anyone actually use it? And if vulnerabilities are found in the current Firefox browser, at least they can be patched up 50x faster than Internet Explorer.

As for migrating to Firefox/other browsers, it's not that hard. How hard can it be? Just install a fresh installation of Opera/Firefox/whatever browser and click Import settings from Microsoft Internet Explorer. You'll need to use IE for Microsoft Update, and some games, but otherwise you shouldn't have too much of a problem.
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