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I want to make some simple games for online educational usage. I read lots of articles about how to create a game, but I'm confused-- after the game created, how to load it to the web server and play it online?










   Fri Dec 10, 2010    Reply         

I have two questions.
first of all, your topic is "how to put a Gaim online", are you really talking about "Gaim", or is it a mistype and you were talking about a GAME?
Secondly, how is your game? Ils it a php program or is it a set of html pages?
Did you try it on your PC ? How do you fire it on your PC?
For instance, if it's a set of html files and you start it by going to c:\mygame\start.html, you have have simply, on your webhost, to create a folder named "mygame" and upload insid it the whole content of the c:\mygame folder from your PC.







   Fri Dec 10, 2010    Reply         

It's Game. Sorry for the mis-input :P

I want to create a game, but not started yet. I read some articles about how to install software for coding games. but I wondering how to put it online after created.

So, if the software generate html or php pages, I will be fine.

Which software can generate pages?

Thanks!

   Fri Dec 10, 2010    Reply         


OK, I fixed the mistyping and now the topic title is "How To Put a Game Online".
Now, your question still has to be completed.
You are talking about articles you read, we would like to read a little bit more.
The papers seem to ba talking about installing a game.
The game installation has three phases :
Phase one : installing the basic software.
Phase two (optionnal) : installing the third-party environment.
Phase three : installing your game environment.
Phase one is only on your own home PC. For instance installing Windows, Apache, MySql and Php on your PC. Apache is the web server, if you want you can install it on your own PC. Obviously if you order a website on a public host, you cannot install Apache on that host, it has to be installed by the webhosting provider.
Same thing for the php compiler, or the java runtime, it has to be installed by the server owner.
If you have no third-party program (don't need Django nor Eclipse for instance) you go directly to step three.
In step three, you simply have to put your programs and datafiles in the server environment dedicated to your hosting account (usually you create a subfolder under the "www" folder of your account.
This text is very basic, simply because what you told us from your article is very unprecise.
If you need more info, please tell us more about the articles you are talking about.
Regards
Yordan

   Sat Dec 11, 2010    Reply         

Thanks, yordan!
I read some posts in this forum on how to create games. I saw many recommended GameMaker, so I continued my research on GameMaker website. There are plenty of articles teaching how to create games. Looks like promising. So I was about to download their software to try it out. At this point, I suddenly thought of the question of how to put it online. That's how I started this topic--
The game is made in windows enviroment, that means the game is mostly dll or exe files. my site will be hosted in Asta which is an linux envirument, and my site is generated by wordpress which is using php files.
I searched around, I don't see anybody talking about how to host game maker's game online. Maybe it's just a computer game, can't go online?

   Sat Dec 11, 2010    Reply         

That means that, now, you have to look at environments which have a Linux or an "open" environment.

   Sat Dec 11, 2010    Reply         


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I don't see anybody talking about how to host game maker's game online. Maybe it's just a computer game, can't go online?


Game makers game are hosted with their own plugin for browser. So you should get the details from their official site. First just learn to create a basic game using game maker which is not at all difficult. Then you can pack it with both exe and web game as it's way too easy.

Game maker has inbuilt packer which instantly saves your game in either game maker's web format or exe format. If you want people to download your game and play on their computer during offline or online then you should pack it with exe. If you want them to play on browser which is what i think you're planning then you need to make web package for it and release it on their site.

Game makers official hosting is free for those who purchased game maker, even for free users but that is limited space. Hope that helps.

   Sat Dec 11, 2010    Reply         

QUOTE (starscream)

Game makers official hosting is free for those who purchased game maker, even for free users but that is limited space. Hope that helps.
Link: view Post: 150788

This means that you can start as a free game maker user, see how it works on their free hosting. And when start being comfortable with this way of working, you can move to your own hosting, or use the game makers site coming with your purchased software.

   Sat Dec 11, 2010    Reply         

I need people play the game online to get interact with each other.
The game is simple, for example, it shows a picture and 4 answers, people pick one answer, if correct, they get 1 point;
This 1 point they gained from the game will be added to their account, and they can earn points from other activities on the site such as posting.
So, GameMaker is for making offline game-- people can download to play or they install a broswer plugin to play online. I think this doesn't suit me. I prefer users do everything online and don't need to install anything extra.
I need a game software that can generate web pages.

   Sat Dec 11, 2010    Reply         

Gamemaker can create both online and offline games. It doesn't generate webpages for the game. It just install the code on single page if it's using the plugin for browser. For your current gaming design, it is possible to create game under gamemaker and then releasing it for the web users. Gamemaker can do this game for you quickly than any other gaming tools.

If not, then i suggest you to learn HTML 5 and Javascript so that you'll create web only games and these games will run on any browser with no limit. If the browser supports HTML 5 then it's possible to run those games. Trust me it's way too easy to get started with HTML 5 than coding php or other programming language.

QUOTE

This means that you can start as a free game maker user, see how it works on their free hosting. And when start being comfortable with this way of working, you can move to your own hosting, or use the game makers site coming with your purchased software.

Yes. You're right. It's sort of sales pitch for commercial or advanced users but it's for the good.

   Sun Dec 12, 2010    Reply         

Thanks!!!
Now I get the idea. I will dive into GameMaker to see how it release the game for web users. Hope it has ways to do it. If not, HTML 5 with javascript is the way to go-- but I doubt I would be able to learn it.

   Sun Dec 12, 2010    Reply         

Gamemaker has community forum where you can ask how much you can get out of that setup. I'm sure the people on that forum will guide you for good. It's the best forum for game maker developers. I personally found many good answers from that forum and i think you'll get some for your web based games.

About HTML5, i can surely tell you that you'll pick it up and complete a game in just 5 days or so. Many people who have no programming language learned HTML 5 in day or two and are setting up games. It's easy and with new browser updates you can test games or other HTML 5 magic easily quickly. So make sure you upgrade your browser to latest version for the HTML 5 support. Though HTML 5 is backwards compatible there are some things like canvas which will require update for browser.

   Sun Dec 12, 2010    Reply         

I took a look at HTML5 introduction articles, the structure is really much better than <div> structure, very easy for the eyes. Seems no steeply learning curve on this one. I will swing on action.
If change to HTML5, I will have some editing jobs to do with my current theme. Then, go GameMaker :P

   Sun Dec 12, 2010    Reply         

I have some positive feedback--
I found a very nice software for generate my simple game in html --"HotPotato". It makes all sorts of quiz and tests, that's all I want. After making the quiz, can Create Webpage, then, publish on their site for free, or paste on my blog. Great stuff!

   Wed Dec 15, 2010    Reply         

another possilbity is if you make your game in flash then you can embed it directly onto your website and thus making it easier for getting online instead of trying to get a exe to work online. if you really wanted to use the exe the only way i see how to do is to have a download link for it so people download your game and then play it. i have never come across any methods on how to embed a exe online unless game maker can save your game as a flash file then you could or if you could use the graphiics from game maker once your game is created then put it into flash and learn some action script to get the game working.

   Thu Dec 16, 2010    Reply         

QUOTE (grim reaper1666)

another possilbity is if you make your game in flash then you can embed it directly onto your website
Link: view Post: 150884

I don't agree with such a way of doing.
I'm lucky with the html approach, which makes your game playable by people having (almost) any kind of browser.
I don't agree with the flash way.
If my nephew goes to your site, my sister will see a "do you want to install Flash Player?"
She will call me, and I will answer "NO! Don't install anything if not needed".
And of course my office computer will not be able to use your website, which is not a problem because none of us uses to play during office hours! :P
So, apart of all jokes, from an architecture point of view, you probably want a lot of people to access your website. So you need your software to be playable by every PC, every Mac, or every Linux computer in the world. You should not choose a solution asking the home user to switch to a more recent browser or to install Adobe Flash Player, or even to install your own .exe file.
Just imagine if somebody has a virus disaster a couple of hours after having install your .exe, you will be in trouble. At least a bad reputation (thrown on all gamers forums), and possibly fined if the virus disastered guy gets so angry that the goes to court! :P
So, if I was not clear enough, thinking from the very beginning of the architecture and feasibility study, keep as simple as possible and as danger-less as possible, even from paranoid users!
Regards
Yordan

   Thu Dec 16, 2010    Reply         

well i like to make games on macromedia flash mx which most computers already have that flash version pre installed, in theory html 5 could do the same stuff that flash can do if i did a html game it would most likely involve different buttons ontop of a drawing of a corridor with different routes to go on and selecting them acts like a maze. go the wrong way and you get stuck and have to double back, the reason why i said about flash is because these days alot of computers come with it already since until recently youtube used flash for their videos, and they use javascript for the api. which btw could also be used for either transmitting a virus or to confuse a computer by asking it to divide something by 0 because as we all know the computer would be constantly trying to find how many zeros fit into that number.

   Thu Dec 16, 2010    Reply         

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