Google is a very Big Company. And it has helped Millions of young publishers to gain some outcome out of their small site. And also thousands of big companies to turn their traffic into a fortune.

However, There are some very disturbing Facts regarding google. But first lets see why members prefer google adsense Ads/Advertising network.

1. They are a very big reputed company.
   
2. They give checks on time.
   
3. The Content Relevant Ads are a bonus and are not annoying for members. and they inturn prove helpful.
   
4. It gives out a Better CTR ( Click through Rate ) and hence better ROI ( Return of investment ) for Advertisers. This benefiting both Advertiser and Publisher.
   
5. They give you a very large Share of the profit. ( Around 70% )
   
6. Since The Ads are bid on keywords, It automatically ensures that you recieve the highest bid for your site and you make the highest profit possible.
   

Looking at the above points, You will no doubt be a Great Fan of Google Adsense. So where is the place where people have a disagreement with Google Adsense and say google sucks or their policy sucks. The disagreement is basically for the strict policies maintained by Google.

FACT : Google Adsense can provide high rates per click due to bidding for keywords at Google Adwords. Consider a business like online consultancy. Well, such a business will have a lot of online competition and hence results into large biddings. As a result, per click rate of such ads can go as high as even $5. And on the other hand, many fields in which the bidding is not soo much, have very filthy low rates.

1st ISSUE : How can small publishers expect to earn $100. It might take them months. Many small publishers are usually begineers and most of them don't have high targetted traffic. Think about a site which has information regarding jokes / lifestyle where the BID for keywords relating to them is very small. They will hardly make $0.05 per click. Now, How can they even think about Payments to reach $100. It would just remain a Dream for these people. Anyway, it will take a lot of time. The other thing is, suppose a publisher is close to $80 after showing ads for about 6 months and suddenly, someone spams his ads. All Google will do is shut his account off. Well, What about his earnings from all those 6 months! So, he has no option than to keep quiet and search for some other alternative networks. And yes, he will also join the suspended group of people and search for Google adsense sucks.. as most of you people did :-)

The account getting suspended or disabled seems an odd issue for most of the new readers. However, ask the people who have been really suspended. Well, in most of the cases, everything goes fine when one fine day, they get a mail from google saying...



Well, Here we are talking about genuine people who were true to themselves and got Suspended. However, there are people who get greedy and start clicking over their own ads, use proxies, go to cafe's and click their own ads there...and God knows, What else they do. However, they forget, they are dealing with Google there! Not, some jerk who has some native programming skills and makes some payment program. Google has a very vast technology for detecting fradulent clicks. However, this can always happen, that you accessed your account from a friends place few times, and that friend spammed your site just to stab a knife in your back. Who knows, but unexpected things do happen.

Anyway, after getting that mail, many will definately send a mail saying they were not responsible for those fradulent clicks. And inturn, What people get is this reply (in 99.9% cases)



2nd ISSUE : Google had an AUTOMATED Help system. IF you send them Queries, You will simply get an Automated reply. Send the same query 100 times and you get the same reply. Google seems to use its extensive search capabilities for help support system. So forget about TALKING to any representative. There are no representatives or Help support as such. Its all Machines who read and analyse your mails and send you autoamated Replies.

And dont even think about calling them, You will be kept on hold and there are hardly any chances that you will be re-instated. As they will simply read out the above message.

The Second ISSUE is kinda obvious. Even if a company hires 500 people staff, how much one can expect to reply to millions of mails (taking account of the millions of publishers who have signed up for Google Adsense).

My friend got suspended in the same way and also got the printed reply, now he was looking for advertisers and he started running various ad companies. However, their payout was not enough to pay the maintainance bills. So he RE-APPLIED at Google. And AMAZINGLY, He got ApprovED! This time, however , He installed CLICK TRACKERS to see who spams his ads. And within 15 days, He caught one IP which repeadly clicked the same AD for 15-20 times. He immediately reported this to Google. He gave them the IP ADDRESS, TIME, AD CLICKED and the frequency of his clicks. He was happy that he had installed the Tracker and was sure that things would work out fine.

But Guess what, he gets disabled the next daY! Well, this action also makes sense if you were in Google's place. A publisher who wants to test out google's system by trial and error method, he can always do the same and wait to see what exactly triggers the alarm. However, What was the mistake of this poor friend. He gets screwed for no reason. When he reported about the clicks, Google detects it and says, "OMG! So much spam! Bad.. our advertisers are suffering a lot.. May be this guy has many enemies. Lets disable the Account and end the topic right there..". Well, like Politics, even here, the middle men are the ones who suffer. This is like Nature's Rule. Anyway, lets see other points which proves Google adsense sucks.. ;-)

Issue 3 : Remember, If there is a very BIG hike or anything, There is no Use in helping them by reporting your errors. For small one or 2 clicks, they forgive it. After all its a BILLION dollar company Since its all BOTS in their HELP SYSTEm, If they see the words FRADULENT in your Email, they simply claim that your wrong and disable you off! Well, the BOTs here can also be real humans who have simply lost the spice in their life by reading thousands of false claims.. this.. that... Anyway, this is what usually happens.



ISSUE 4 : WHY ON EARTH GOOGLE APPROVES SITES IN THE FIRST PLACE, If all it wanted to do was disable your site at the end of the MONTH. It can alert you right at the time of Signup!

Publishers, If you are disabled once, Don't even think about changing domains, doing this and that and registering for another account again. Because if you do signup, this is what happenes..

You get the Welcome mail. You celebrate and have a party. Roll the ads on your site again(the same site where you were suspended). For about 22 to 25 days, things will be fine. And then you get a mail from Google saying.. "hahaha.. You think you are smart, trying to sneak in again! there, Your account is disabled! **** off!" Well, this is how it feels when you are reading their mail saying, publishers are not allowed to signup again once they are disabled.

There is also one more thing, GOOGLE WARNS ONLY ONCE!!. Yes, Google warns only once. So once you are suspended and after signing up for another account. This time, when they disable you, you don't get a warning. You straight away get your Nightmare notice!

ISSUE 5 : You are never told the reason for which you are being suspended. You dont get any replies regarding it, even if you send them support Queries for it. You just have to Have BLIND Faith in them!

Lets see this issue in 2 peoples point of view.
PUBLISHER : "Man Google adsense sucks! They won't tell me why they suspended me! They wanted my money.. !@#@!#@#%@#4.."
GOOGLE : Google Cannot reveal this information because, It will open the GATES for smart people. They will spam it purposely, use all their tricks and wait to see how google detects it. So, to keep this service secure, We won't reveal this data. After all its our technology.

Another incident,

My Friends cousin & uncle who also ran adsense on their Sites got disabled! Hopefully because my friend logged into his account from their computer.. They also lost around $70 and $213 respectively. The email they got was just the same as he had recieved. It claimed that they were previously disabled because of fruadulent activity! Huh! What a crap was that supposed to mean ... ! It was their first account. Well, YOU ARE BEING WARNED, NEVER EVER USE OTHERS COMPUTERS FREQUENTLY TO LOGIN TO YOUR ACCOUNT! Don't blow the AXe on your own FEET! When, your time is bad, Unexpected things happen.



PUBLISHER : My Question is WHY?? Why Can't I share my information, Regarding my SITE ? Ever heard of Freedom of Speech.. Well, If you have joined Google, you better forget about it.
GOOGLE : Well, there can be many reasons regarding this. Google might have a very complex algorithm to calculate payments and earnings. And Google might want to avoid confusion and bad faith among people.

Lets move on..


WHOA .. Thats huge!
Now You come to know that Google Can place ADS on your site for FREE!! Wow, This is real good business. You ask a site to put ads on yours and then realise it is advertising itself for free. :-S

Well, this is prevalent with most other networks too. It seems many companies have assumed that they have the right to put ads on your site for free.

Finally - and this is the part that bugs me the most - the numbers have been changing constantly. You may go to your site and get a list of click throughs and the money you've earned, and the next day, the amount of money has dropped for no reason, and then when you receive your check, the amount doesn't correspond to *anything*. Google doesn't give you a log of clicks, advertisers and fees with the check. There's no transparency at all.

Google gets to decide what they pay you for and how much, *and* they can change these rates at any time.

Many other Advertising companies too do not disclose this information.. However, nothing can be said or agued about this. But yes, The rates that you get from the stats are final. You cannot argue over the low or high rates.

So what do you mean by all this? What do you want to say and what you want to prove?
The point is, Since Google has its own policies and Terms firm on its part. And its impossible for them to reveal data and give you more information. People using Google adsense (and even other networks) are forced to use them blindly. So, our recommendation is, Please don't take any service for GRANTED! In no case, don't depend on any one network. We might want to add, Google Adsense is rather FRAGILE. You have to use it carefully and take extra care.

Google Adsense is NOT for you If you have RIVALS or COMPETITORS. Clearly, This is what happened to my friend. He has got many emails from competitors who have clearly tried to get him down by spamming his Google ADs. On reporting these Mails with their Originating IP and complete headers to Google ADsense Support, they forwareded them to their Abuse team and from there nothing happended! Clearly, they were not interested and they thought it is easier to simply disable the account and end the story.

VERY IMPORTANT PERSONAL SUGGESTION

If you have DYNAMIC pages and forums AND *DONT* have Competitors or rivals
---> USE GOOGLE ADSENSE!

If you have Dynamic pages or Forums and DO have COMPETITORS
---> PAY PER IMPRESSION will be your best Choice. Use Google Adsense ONLY as a SECONDARY SOURCE if you still wanna use them. Most propably, you will have been disabled like me by now :-P

If you have STATIC pages ( and few quantity )
---> USE AFFILIATE PROGRAMS AND COST PER LEAD / CPA programs. You can target these programs very well depending on your content and hence you can expect good outcome.

IF you have a small Personal Site with some GENERAL contents
---> Use Google Adsense

IF you have a Clan Site
---> Forget about Google adsense, Clans sites usually have wars between each other and I have seen many people targetting Google.. :-D

More links related to Google Ads you might want to check out

1. Google Adsense Sucks - Pros and Cons about Adsense
   
2. More about Adsense
   
3. Google Adsense Tips
   
4. Best Ways to Earn from Advertisements
   
5. Google Adsense Colors
   
6. Google Adsense RSS Feeds
   
7. Google Adsense Important Tips
   

Nice long post... I don't like ads anyways... I've got a IP block for most ad/banner companies on my pc. Big companies tend to shield themselves away for any danger that might occur with all kinds of policies and rules. But look what is happening to M$, it's losing grip too, more and more people start to ditch IE and use FireFox or some other browser, and more people start to use Linux as OS. So I guess that Google will fall... It might not be today or tomorrow, but they WILL fall eventually.

Frustration with a capital 'F', eh? They got the benefit of advertising on your sites for awhile before terminating the accounts and didn't pay--smacks of fraud to me. Makes me wonder how many other people this has happened to... If this is a widespread problem, I wouldn't be surprised if lawsuits are filed against Google. Think this might be happening to any lawyer's sites?

Search Google for Google Sucks gives out pretty impressive results.

REsults for various keywords.

1,210,000 for google sucks.
575,000 for Google account disabled.
188,000 for Google account suspended.
15,800 for Google adsense sucks.
62,400 for adsense fraud google.

527,000 for Google Really Sucks.

The NEXT Tough competitor to the Insane Google Adsense is Quigo Technologies. A company called Adsonar which is the best Alternative to Google Adsense. Their Contexual advertising really amazed me! ITs wonderful. The Ads between the forums ( left ad on second post ) is from them. It hardly takes anytime for them (seconds) to index you page and deliver relevant ads. And their ads are more relevant ( even better than google ).

Um, opaque. Can I have the site to adsonar? I don't want to google it anyways, nice post. Thank you for opening my eyes to the evil conglomorate that is Google. I almost signed up for adsense, but this changed my mind. Thanks
Aaron

http://www.quigo.com/

Go knock Google dead...

Nils

I am not an american resident to I have not given them that. I dont think so. However, The PER CLICK rates of AD-SONAR are very low. Around 0.02 Dollars. Being a young company. Even though I can make 10 times more money by placing other ads on my forum instead of those, But I think putting relevant ads is more better ( visitors point of view ). After all we are here to help :-)

Ack a few questions....Ummm have you been paid atleats once yet? How much before a payout? And do they give you logs?

Those three would be nice cuz I'm looking at it and it seems like a decent company...

Cuz I'm with adsence right now...But I don't plan on making money fast off it considering my sites just for a small group of friends n such...

But one question...why the hell do we still have that google bot that posts adds on here if we don't use google adsence?....It can really get annoying at the begining...

Oh well that was a freaking great post in the begining on adsence though and I really appreciate the insight....I'm gunna stay with em though....Hope I don't get flucked around with

l8r

Haha... Good one OpaQue - WHO in the world ever had come up with the idea of battling fire with fire ??? Lol.. As for the article, I'd say one of the most comprehensive and in-depth discussion I've seen on these forums so far. You must have had a lot of steam building up, to come up with something like this. Great work though...

Opaque, do you know if there are any advertising systems that pay you through Paypal and pay to UK web owners?

A quick question on how the WHOLE payment thing works... I know that for each click on an ad, I would get a certain amount of money, but does that mean that, since advertisers, say in adsonar's case, pay $50, after 2500 clicks, that ad no longer runs... Wow, that math is staggering... Ug, I don't get anywhere near that traffic. But does that kinda run down from an account from the company and when they're outta money, the ad goes away? J/w
Peace
Aaron

Thats once of the first extremely long posts I've read in my life and I was actually going to get GoogleAdsense, thanks a lot OpaQue.

RE-EDITED MY MAIN POST. I AM LEAST BOTHERED BOUT MY HOSTING CREDITS... LOL. Check it out.

Sounds like google have there own little scam built in there. Ever looked at mamma media solutions they are pretty cool and whats the situation just now as it seems to say goole in the posts from the advert bot.

I got 2 words to explain what & how they are .... "They Suck!"

It's been months and I only got about $4 in my adsense account. My blog needs a LOT more traffic to get to $100, I hope then don't give me that same message when I get my pay - "it occured to us that you're clicking your own ads". Ugh, that would really suck.

In my opinion, Google would only resort to this as there are too many users abusing the service.Besides, who won't when clicking on their own AdSense ads when they can earn money from it? Since Google can't possibly verify all of these clicks, all they could do was to pick an account with the number of clicks, see if it has been clicked by the same IP address and ban it without confirming the incident with the user thus causing a misunderstanding.The only people you can blame are them and not Google.No intention of proving you guys wrong but I am merely stating my opinion.

But will Google know if you are using a proxy service? I don't have the answer to that.

I have never had any problem with adsense but if you do then try using an affiliate program. They almost always payout as they sell actual products not clicks.

You got a point. I am not talking of small sites. Out of those millions of sites using Google adsense, the sites which are actually using Google to make a living is very very less. Google can always put them in seperate category and provide support. However, If you say that Google has soo many clients and advertisers, why do you forget that it is not doing any big favor for all of them. It is the one which gets paid and profits the most. So if you have soo many members, its their responsibility to increase the support staff and provide support.

Yes google adsense sucks. It doesn't have a good payout and very very booring. The advertised sites sucks as well. I got this account disabled stuff also. And pay per click sucks, cents???

I have an Adsense account and earn very small amount per month. It takes about six months to get 100USD. I ocassionally receive warning e-mails but I have not yet been stripped off my account. I am from Asia and did not have to supply Social Security Number. Was that for tax purposes?

Social Security no. is required only for US citizens.

Very intersting read, i have had no problems with adsense, and when i contacted them about an issue i had on one of the websites i help run they responded within 24 hours.

Their responces are proberly bot-like because they wouldnt have enough time to write out a responce for each user that contacted them so they would have a list of reply and choose the one that best suits the situation. Thats what i would do anyway

They are the best of their kind, but being the best means that people are more likely to abuse so they would be extremely strict, which is a bad thing.

woow... pretty nasty, eh?
i always though t you were overreacting in the whole Google thing, you know pinning 'Google AdSense Sucks' and all...
Then i read this post.
It wouldn't even be fair if your account would get suspended after real fraudulent clicks, because if i realy hated you, i could go en generate some clicks on the 29th...

Wait, so by this logic then it's possible to just sit there on your computer and reclick on the same website time after time and that would bring it down? That is ridiculous and unfair. Surely they could find a way to block IP adresses or something for those people who were repeatedly clicking.

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