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CDMA vs GSM - Which will rule the world

 
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Hi,
Now a days there are two different technology for mobile phones in the world.
(1) CDMA -Code Division Multiple Access
(2) GSM - Global System for Mobiles based upon TDMA ( Time Division
Multiple Access)

There are some countries where GSM is the major technology and CDMA has entered recently like India. On the other side there are some countries where CDMA is the main technoloy and GSM has entered recently like USA, Canada as far as I know.
What you think about these. I mean which technology you like and why??? And which will win in the race between these two in the future.






   Sun Jul 3, 2005    Reply         

Hi,

I work in the industry and being from Europe obviously I'd have to say GSM. Technical both technologies are level pegging. Some would argue that CDMA is better quality. But to the average Joe you cant tell the difference.

GSM however is a much more globally standardised technology. For this reason international roaming is excellent with GSM. There is so much international roaming in Europe therefore GSM is used 100%. However CDMA isnt as internationally accepted. Great in your own country but if you want to travel somewhere else the chances are your CDMA phone wont work.

Interestly, the GSM standards group have adopted WCDMA (Wideband CDMA) as the basis for the next version of GSM (i.e 3GSM).

I suppose the debate doesnt really matter as we will all be using WCDMA in 10 years time.

   Tue Jul 5, 2005    Reply         

Universal Mobile Telecommunications System (UMTS) is likely to be the next standard so GSM and CDMA, TDMA and the others will probably be in our history books sooner than expected.

   Wed Aug 17, 2005    Reply         


I think (like tmp) the next standard will be UMTS.
In Europe all the companies are upgrading their systems to that technology.

   Wed May 10, 2006    Reply         

I can't, with any technical authority, tell you which standard will win out. But, like any other standard war, better technology doesn't always win out. Money will decide this issue. So, it begs the question, in terms of usage which continent uses cellphones more? Or, which company(ies) in what country(ies) are the most profitable in wireless telecom, and which standards do they use?

   Thu May 11, 2006    Reply         

I think that in Australia GSM will win, at least in the short-term because most of the networks here are running GSM and the major network, Telstra, is removing it's CDMA technology so GSM will dominate here eventually.
I use GSM myself, like many people and I believe most of Australia has access to a GSM network, although mine is sometimes non-existent.

   Sun Jun 11, 2006    Reply         


technically it's called WCDMA, which is a 3G technology, and I'm all for 3G technology as I think we should always try to embrace new technologies.

Therefore, I voted CDMA, but as I said, it's called WCDMA.

In Canada, it's being introduced later this year!

I can't wait!


xboxrulz

   Mon Jun 12, 2006    Reply         

I'm going to say that TDMA/GSM/Whatever is next based on this technology tree branch will be the winner. It's really no contest as very few use WCDMA outside of north america.

The First GSM phone I had was in Germany through Vodofone. Then when I got back to the states Cingular offered a dual TDMA/GSM phone. I used that for a couple years then switched to a Motoroloa V60 series GSM (I think it was the 170 or 160, I can't remember). Now I have a Razer V3 through the Cingular Go service.

Why I do the monthly plan linked to my debt card just as I did before with the 2-year plans. The nice thing is if I can get a really good deal through someone else, I'll join, if I need to go to Germany for 6Months, I can just cancel my month to month with no $150 fee...it works for me...

   Tue Jun 13, 2006    Reply         

Nationwide, we have cdma, wcdma, gsm goverage. I personally like gsm because it seems faster with txt messaging and roaming is as easy as turning on your phone in a country like australia, where Ive used it before. I have both a gsm and a cdma phone. I use my cdma during the week through Telecom (cheap sms plan) and my gsm with Vodafone on the weekend (free sms). Takes up to 10 seconds at times to send messages on the cdma network :s, other people have noticed it too.

   Fri Jul 21, 2006    Reply         

QUOTE (solanky)

Hi,
Now a days there are two different technology for mobile phones in the world.
(1) CDMA -Code Division Multiple Access
(2) GSM - Global System for Mobiles based upon TDMA ( Time Division
Multiple Access)

There are some countries where GSM is the major technology and CDMA has entered recently like India. On the other side there are some countries where CDMA is the main technoloy and GSM has entered recently like USA, Canada as far as I know.
What you think about these. I mean which technology you like and why??? And which will win in the race between these two in the future.
Link: view Post: 42623


In Europe, CDMA has never existed... in fact GSM has been arround for decades. UMTS is in fact a technology used in GSM ... So therefore GSM IS the future as UMTS belongs to GSM.

You can also tell this by the fact that the latest phones in US were obsolete in Europe nearly 10 years ago..

CDMA as well as Analogue where dead many years ago.

   Wed Mar 21, 2007    Reply         

I work for a cellular provider in Canada and we use GSM (huge hint ;) ) were coming out with a new data network I think Verison just beat us to it called HSDPA (High Speed Data Packet Access or something) its pretty interesting double the speed of the CDMA providers network right now. With data and now video calling starting to become the norm it will all depend on data speed not call quality in my opinion.

-Jordan

   Sat Mar 24, 2007    Reply         

I'm in Tucson, AZ...and I used Verizon, then T-Mobile, then Alltel. To date, I've had the best voice and data coverage with Verizon and Alltel and the coolest, cheapest phones with T-Mobile. The problem I had with T-Mobile was that the data and voice service availability just really sucked. The service was fine...when I could find a signal...but that was rare.

I would check the coverage maps before actually getting in bed with a cell carrier.

   Sat Mar 24, 2007    Reply         

I've used both CDMA and GSM technologies in the past - and experiance counts : CDMA definitely has more voice quality! Its so noticeable, maybe I'm not the Average John then! ;) But there are Pro's and Con's about both..

In India at least, CDMA handsets do not hold a SIM card. So you can't change your handset (or its not as easy a process). I often bet with my friends and we're shuffling between our handsets, thanks to versatile SIM cards! Besides, CDMA is used for cellular as well as FWT services. In case of FWT, I think that's the best solution for quality.

But of course, GSM is an internationally accepted standard. And people tend to roam. So all odds favor it - for the compromise in quality, we would use GSM technologies in the future. I didn't agree upon that SMS taking a long time to be sent thing though! I've never seen that around! ;)

   Sun Mar 25, 2007    Reply         

CDMA has more bandwidth hence has greater data clarity but it is not widely used worldwide.

whereas GSM is used in most of the countries and it has several enhanced features like, GPRS, EDGE etc.

   Sun Mar 25, 2007    Reply         

QUOTE (vitorious)

I work for a cellular provider in Canada and we use GSM (huge hint <_< ) were coming out with a new data network I think Verison just beat us to it called HSDPA (High Speed Data Packet Access or something) its pretty interesting double the speed of the CDMA providers network right now. With data and now video calling starting to become the norm it will all depend on data speed not call quality in my opinion.

-Jordan
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You work for Rogers Communications Inc.? They are the only Canadian provider to use GSM.

xboxrulz

   Sun Jun 10, 2007    Reply         

As of now, I don't really care.. but would prefer GSM to CDMA...

and, i can bet tht UMTS is not long from overtaking the rest!

   Tue Jun 12, 2007    Reply         

QUOTE (solanky)

Hi,
Now a days there are two different technology for mobile phones in the world.
(1) CDMA -Code Division Multiple Access
(2) GSM - Global System for Mobiles based upon TDMA ( Time Division
Multiple Access)

There are some countries where GSM is the major technology and CDMA has entered recently like India. On the other side there are some countries where CDMA is the main technoloy and GSM has entered recently like USA, Canada as far as I know.
What you think about these. I mean which technology you like and why??? And which will win in the race between these two in the future.
Link: view Post: 42623


I think what matters most is the uniformity of the mobile technology. Mobile phones are about communication so it is important to make sure that the message/phone call is sent to the recipient, regardless if it is GSM or CDMA.

   Sat Jul 7, 2007    Reply         

Here in Australia, the big telco has just starting phasing out the CDMA network to make way for the third generation network it has recently deployed around Australia. This means, by January next year, there will be no more CDMA in Australia!

   Sat Jul 7, 2007    Reply         

QUOTE (Jimmy89)

Here in Australia, the big telco has just starting phasing out the CDMA network to make way for the third generation network it has recently deployed around Australia. This means, by January next year, there will be no more CDMA in Australia!
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Does that mean your country can only use 3G phones then? 3G is still quite expensive to use and implement, not ideal for the consumer.

xboxrulz

   Sat Jul 7, 2007    Reply         

We are still using the GSM network in Australia. Telstra has phased out CDMA in rural areas (cause thats where it was mainly used) and has replaced it with 3G, so the rural, country folk have to upgrade, but the GSM users in town don't HAVE TO just yet.

Telstra has almost finished implementing 3G coverage across Australia. Because the 3G handsets can roam on the 3G and GSM networks, this means that people with 3G compatible handsets have more then, i think they said 99% coverage over Australia.

I don't yet have a 3G handset, only because I don't need it. Yes, the extra speed that the EDGE network has is great, but I just dont need it yet. And as you said, its quite expensive! To purchase a 3G phone is very expensive, though Telstra has just released 3G Pre-Paid, which will be good for some people. You can even watch Pay-TV channels on your 3G mobile now!

   Sat Jul 7, 2007    Reply         

In Gainesville, Fl, phones that use the GSM network barely get signal compared to the CDMA phones. I was a customer of Sprint for 2 years, and while the plans sucked, the call quality was great. My girlfriend is a Cingular customer, and she keeps getting dropped calls. We laugh at all those commercials that say Cingular has the fewest dropped calls, because for anyone attending the University of Florida, Cingular is the worst! Tmobile also uses GSM technology, and while the signal is a bit better than Cingular's, it still stinks compared to Verizon and Sprint in Gainesville. So, I chose CDMA for my part of town. If I'm traveling to another country, I always carry a quadband phone and pick up a sim card there.

   Sun Jul 8, 2007    Reply         

In a local area the difference maybe more apparent, but as a global traveler I use GSM exculsively. With GSM I can go to most countries and get a signal. Currently I'm with AT&T through work. (Still keep the Go Phone for personal/back up use) and I can go to Europe with no problems and same with SE Asia. Granted, I don't think the company likes the international roaming costs (or maybe I have a global plan, hell i dunno, I just use the bloody crackberry).

Although I remember when Erickson said CDMA would never work. They kinda got egg on their face over that one.

   Sun Jul 8, 2007    Reply         

I keep with GSM because in Canada or at least in Toronto/GTA, GSM and CDMA are almost the same, you won't even notice a difference. I chose GSM (Rogers exclusive) because I travel to Hong Kong quite often and I need a GSM phone since Hong Kong uses GSM almost exclusively.

xboxrulz

   Sun Jul 8, 2007    Reply         

In Kenya, where I operates from, there are two Wireless Networks companies that relies on GSM I.e. Celtel Kenya and Safaricom Ltd and one using CDMA I.e. Telkom Wireless. Whenever I used Telkom Wireless service, I get clear service as compared to the two GSM Networks services. I have assumed that may be the two GSM companies have more subscribers hence affects quality of service unless the Telkom Wireless that is slowly scrolling subscribers' space. My assumption is still under test but I assume even though both have dos and cons, I think GSM networks eventually gives the best! Though I wait to be assisted with more information.

-Richard Omolo

   Thu Oct 18, 2007    Reply         

What standards will be used is depending on country's regulation and frequency regulation. GSM and CDMA run on different range of frequencies. And if a range of frequency is full, then providers will start looking other standard and implement the new standard.

I'm using both GSM and CDMA (I have 4 handphones with 4 different numbers, 2 GSMs and 2 CDMAs). There's no favourite. They have their own functions.

GSM : 1 number for Internet via GPRS, and another for my wife's communication
CDMA : me and my wife. usually CDMA is bad for text messaging and the signal is poor, sometimes we have to recharge the batteries often because the handphones try to look for signal.

   Mon Nov 5, 2007    Reply         

out of cdma and gsm, i choose gsm.

telstra are getting rid of their cdma service next year anyway.

i have a next g phone, i prefer next g. the internet on it is so much faster!

   Mon Nov 5, 2007    Reply         

I have to say that in the areas I have been (now i am in the US here)....CDMA seems to be better....I mean I have signal almost everywhere that I ever go.

Yet I have some friends who have GSM (AT&T phones), and their service is awful. It'll show full signal...but the number of dropped calls....or the fact that the phone won't ring one minute, but be in the exact same spot and ring the next....Or even better when you call them and you get this nice little voice saying something along the lines of "Welcome to AT&T we are sorry but this user is currently unable to receive phonecalls at this time. Error blah blah" (now that isn't exact but it is something like that....and why on earth it wouldn't go to voice mail I have yet to figure out)...but that has been my experience with GSM service...

   Wed Nov 7, 2007    Reply         

I am fascinated by cdma offerings that attracts the rural people but gsm is not so economically attractive BUT major businesses of the city runs on GSM technology.majority of the business outfits runs on gsm..

   Sat Nov 10, 2007    Reply         

Xboxrulz doesn't know what he is talking about... CDMA and WCDMA are not at all the same thing. Not only is WCDMA not CDMA, the two technologies are not even compatible.

Also, there are no WCDMA plans for Canada. I work in the mobile phone industry both for my employer (in a technical capacity, but I am not at liberty to name them, and with my own startup company that works with mobile data delivery

Technically speaking, CDMA is superior and offers several technical benefits (greater data transfer speeds, greater reception and range, less susceptible to dropped calls), but since it is a patented technology it is not free and its use incurs royalties for the cellular provider. Because of this, and because GSM already boasts 8 times as many users, and therefore the more important market for phone manufacturers, GSM and then UMTS will win out and that's a shame.

-AllC

   Wed Nov 21, 2007    Reply         

Using non-Bell phones
CDMA vs GSM

I'll try to make this short and clear. I have a student plan (non data) through bell. I want to get the HTC 6800 but don't want to buy it through Bell because they will make me sign a data plan and another contract to get a decent price. I have found a couple of the phones on Ebay but they are American.

My questions are:
1. Will an American CDMA phone work with Bell? Does it have to be unlocked like the GSM phones?
2. Since this isn't a Bell manufactured phone, will the Wi-Fi work?

Thanks!

-Curious Bell Customer

   Wed Jan 9, 2008    Reply         

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