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OK, I will keep this post very short.
I deny a lot of hosting requests lately solely because a lot of the applicants have posts shorter than a text message. It does NOT matter how many posts or credits you have if your posts are shorter than 3 lines. Yes, a few can be shorter, but I have seen several here that had posts with 5 words at most. That is immediate denial.
If you have problems with posting longer works, then please halt your efforts here but make them at http://www.trap17.com where posting rules are less strict.
I apologize for using a big font, but I am hoping this will have more impact on readers.
I deny a lot of hosting requests lately solely because a lot of the applicants have posts shorter than a text message. It does NOT matter how many posts or credits you have if your posts are shorter than 3 lines. Yes, a few can be shorter, but I have seen several here that had posts with 5 words at most. That is immediate denial.
If you have problems with posting longer works, then please halt your efforts here but make them at http://www.trap17.com where posting rules are less strict.
I apologize for using a big font, but I am hoping this will have more impact on readers.
Good one 
In the Big, Bold, Black - always gets your attention 
In the Big, Bold, Black - always gets your attention
I can definetly appreciate the how at times finding a topic that catches your attentdion and pulls you in can be hard and thus making a decent post is difficult. Just wait, bide your time, look around I'm sure that you'll find that topic that you need will happen. If it doesn't start one. Hey I'm sure that you have something you might need a suggestion or 2 with, like how easy is it to code a PHP forum while hanging upside down in gravity boots. So take your time and lets all have fun with our sites.
Lol, great idea Logan. I don't know how many of us regularly consider doing that, but hey, each to their own.
Moon is right in that you should try to make longer posts in the forum, for a few reasons. One is that, as moon says, you will not get hosting approved if you do. Another is that long posts have more useful content and therefore contribute more to the forum. After all, if you came to asta looking to increase your knowledge about computers, short posts aren't always going to be very informative.
The above said, everyone can have days where there brain is emptier than a wrung sponge, and no-ones going to get in trouble for posting some short posts, providing it's a small amount of their overall posts.
Moon is right in that you should try to make longer posts in the forum, for a few reasons. One is that, as moon says, you will not get hosting approved if you do. Another is that long posts have more useful content and therefore contribute more to the forum. After all, if you came to asta looking to increase your knowledge about computers, short posts aren't always going to be very informative.
The above said, everyone can have days where there brain is emptier than a wrung sponge, and no-ones going to get in trouble for posting some short posts, providing it's a small amount of their overall posts.
Well I wrote this after seeing a lot of hosting requests from people with bad posts. And I am making this a true war LOL It's just, there are 2 sites. One for each audience, so we must benefit that to the max.
I know how harsh this sounds, but telling people nicely seems to miss its goal often
I know how harsh this sounds, but telling people nicely seems to miss its goal often
Moon,
I totally agree with you, and though I made a "slightly" smart remark about it I hope that I made my point. As for declaring war about it I totally agree there. Sometimes being polite about a problem/issue doesn't get through to people so sometime one must be a bit gruff. I hope that the majority of the posts I've made have been acceptable. I'm making a serious effort to get better about my posts. Maybe I'll take my own advice, and when I'm posting do so upside down in gravity boots to see if that will help with the blood flow to my brain and thus help me get inspired.
I totally agree with you, and though I made a "slightly" smart remark about it
I hope that I made my point. As for declaring war about it I totally agree there. Sometimes being polite about a problem/issue doesn't get through to people so sometime one must be a bit gruff. I hope that the majority of the posts I've made have been acceptable. I'm making a serious effort to get better about my posts. Maybe I'll take my own advice, and when I'm posting do so upside down in gravity boots to see if that will help with the blood flow to my brain and thus help me get inspired.
QUOTE (moonwitch)
OK, I will keep this post very short.I deny a lot of hosting requests lately solely because a lot of the applicants have posts shorter than a text message. It does NOT matter how many posts or credits you have if your posts are shorter than 3 lines. Yes, a few can be shorter, but I have seen several here that had posts with 5 words at most. That is immediate denial.
If you have problems with posting longer works, then please halt your efforts here but make the at http://www.trap17.com where posting rules are less strict.
I apologize for using a big font, but I am hoping this will have more impact on readers.
Me too! why?
tadex - you just prodivded us with a classic exampe of what moonwitch described.
Take a look at your own post - what does it contain? No, let me tell you - the SOLE Original material it contains are the words Me too! why? - by you.
Do you really think it makes any sense to make these kind of posts ? What do they really contribute to the ongoing discussion ?? Besides what sense can the other readers make out of it ??
This is exactly what moonwitch stated in her declaration.. these are the typical examples of BAD Posts, that get members driven away to trap17.
Now tell me, is it really hard to write a FULL/COMPLETE SENTENCE and put up your query ? That would at least convey some meaning...
Take a look at your own post - what does it contain? No, let me tell you - the SOLE Original material it contains are the words Me too! why? - by you.
Do you really think it makes any sense to make these kind of posts ? What do they really contribute to the ongoing discussion ?? Besides what sense can the other readers make out of it ??
This is exactly what moonwitch stated in her declaration.. these are the typical examples of BAD Posts, that get members driven away to trap17.
Now tell me, is it really hard to write a FULL/COMPLETE SENTENCE and put up your query ? That would at least convey some meaning...
When Iv'e been posting my application for hosting, I saw people get denied for mainly these 2 reasons:
There are more denies than accepts for what I see...
Hope this was helpfull...
Administrators please feel free to remove this post if you feel fit,
Thankyou
cherri
- No Posts (No Credit Points)
- Not good quality of posts
There are more denies than accepts for what I see...
Hope this was helpfull...
Administrators please feel free to remove this post if you feel fit,
Thankyou
cherri
I've started denying hosting accounts (I'm a moderator, and I feel it is our job, and the fact microscopic^earthling tells me to) based on the Quantity of Quality.
Many might say that one long, good post would get the amount of credits, but I don't think it brings to Astahost the type of contributions we are looking for.
The idea of the PROFESSIONAL HOSTING SERVICE is to serve professionals and semi-professionals in return for an active contribution of quality information and discussions. A community of professionalism can't survive on general talk.
Call me tight, but I think a lot of hosting requests are rushed, and so the need for a Quantity of Quality control. The more quality pieces you produce, the higher chance you get of being accepted.
Many might say that one long, good post would get the amount of credits, but I don't think it brings to Astahost the type of contributions we are looking for.
The idea of the PROFESSIONAL HOSTING SERVICE is to serve professionals and semi-professionals in return for an active contribution of quality information and discussions. A community of professionalism can't survive on general talk.
Call me tight, but I think a lot of hosting requests are rushed, and so the need for a Quantity of Quality control. The more quality pieces you produce, the higher chance you get of being accepted.
I'm not going to lie so I am saying that I was dissapointed in getting a denied application. Although I applaud the reason behind it, I just wish you included this in the FAQ's or in the sign-up screen to filter a lot of people, generally those wouldn't even know how to speak proper english.
I make it a rule to not post replies shorter than 10 words, and even at that, I feel like I'm not doing much to the community. Although the quality of my posts maybe debatable, I'm hoping I do get approved in the future.
I make it a rule to not post replies shorter than 10 words, and even at that, I feel like I'm not doing much to the community. Although the quality of my posts maybe debatable, I'm hoping I do get approved in the future.
Oh, thank Heavens I found this thread before I started a new one 
.
For a couple of weeks now, this question has been going through my head, that I felt I had to ask it out here:
How Come almost 90% of the Hosting Requests Made In The Past 2 Weeks Were Denied?!
Don't get me wrong, I think the Moderators' decisions are quite justified. I'm wondering about the requesters themselves. Why can't they meet the minimum requirements of AstaHost?
I certainly don't think it's because those requirements are hard... quite the contrary... when I compare the requirements to the value provided, I think they're actually too easy.
Perhaps it's laziness? Unfamiliarity with the English language? Could it be mere and plain stupidity? Or is it just the "Get-Something-For-Nothing" mentality that's being largely promoted everywhere over the Internet?
I can't be sure, really. But I think it's something for the Moderators to look into, because seriously, this is becoming a sort of phenomenon. I honestly think it requires soms serious consideration.
Still, on the bright side, since the Moderators are doing such a splendid job keeping away spammers, perhaps things are not so bad. I mean, the "Get-Something-For-Nothing" folk will probably be around for a long time to come; it's really out of our hands. But at least, we can keep them from getting what deservedly belongs to other, honest, qualified folk.
And by the way, Opethian, I really feel sorry for your hosting request getting denied. I can tell you're NOT a spammer, and I actually like a lot of your posts
. Perhaps it's just like twitch said - (I believe he was the one that processed your application) - you just need some time to increase the quality of the posts, that's all. Good luck 
.
Cheers.
.For a couple of weeks now, this question has been going through my head, that I felt I had to ask it out here:
How Come almost 90% of the Hosting Requests Made In The Past 2 Weeks Were Denied?!
Don't get me wrong, I think the Moderators' decisions are quite justified. I'm wondering about the requesters themselves. Why can't they meet the minimum requirements of AstaHost?
I certainly don't think it's because those requirements are hard... quite the contrary... when I compare the requirements to the value provided, I think they're actually too easy.
Perhaps it's laziness? Unfamiliarity with the English language? Could it be mere and plain stupidity? Or is it just the "Get-Something-For-Nothing" mentality that's being largely promoted everywhere over the Internet?
I can't be sure, really. But I think it's something for the Moderators to look into, because seriously, this is becoming a sort of phenomenon. I honestly think it requires soms serious consideration.
Still, on the bright side, since the Moderators are doing such a splendid job keeping away spammers, perhaps things are not so bad. I mean, the "Get-Something-For-Nothing" folk will probably be around for a long time to come; it's really out of our hands. But at least, we can keep them from getting what deservedly belongs to other, honest, qualified folk
.And by the way, Opethian, I really feel sorry for your hosting request getting denied. I can tell you're NOT a spammer, and I actually like a lot of your posts
. Perhaps it's just like twitch said - (I believe he was the one that processed your application) - you just need some time to increase the quality of the posts, that's all. Good luck .Cheers.
QUOTE (Opethian)
I'm not going to lie so I am saying that I was dissapointed in getting a denied application. Although I applaud the reason behind it, I just wish you included this in the FAQ's or in the sign-up screen to filter a lot of people, generally those wouldn't even know how to speak proper english.
I make it a rule to not post replies shorter than 10 words, and even at that, I feel like I'm not doing much to the community. Although the quality of my posts maybe debatable, I'm hoping I do get approved in the future.
Link: view Post: 76845
[tab][/tab]Opethian - I'd totally agree with Transcendum. Judging by your posts - you've got a very good writing style and that's something we consider first and foremost while reviewing the applications here. For the more easy going kind - we always refer them to try their luck at our sister site Trap17.Com where there are no such restrictions.
[tab][/tab]I made a detailed post on the differences between us and Trap17. You can find it here: Switch To Astahost . This kind of explains our basic requirements. I agree, we really need to update the front page to reflect all the policy changes we've had so far. That's a job which has been long pending.
[tab][/tab]As for the approvals or denials - usually it's only the admins who do it. But sometimes I get really pissed at the quality of most of the post made by the applicants here. On top of that there are occasions like recent times when we get a flood of such applications. Those are the times, I feel like denying ALL - but then again feel really unjust in doing so as I tend to look over even the moderately good ones in the heat of the moment. So I request the mods to sort out some of them on my behalf so it's easier for me to approve/reject from the rest. INothing to be disheartened about - its a proven fact that those who've been rejected on a positive note have always made their way back and got accepted and have been a part of our community ever since. On the other hand - those who're more or less scorned at hardly stand a chance
Anyway - all the best. Hope you make it into our little niche very soon
Ok,
I see how many people get denied and i'ld say its 95% who do,
I hope I am not one of them... (I cant be sure but I think I am not),
I do a limit of the size on my posts, probably the smallest is about 3/5 of the
reply box
M^E if you have time please review my account request,
here is the Link!! Click Me!
I see how many people get denied and i'ld say its 95% who do,
I hope I am not one of them... (I cant be sure but I think I am not),
I do a limit of the size on my posts, probably the smallest is about 3/5 of the
reply box
M^E if you have time please review my account request,
here is the Link!! Click Me!
The all wise admins have spoken, and I agree that they are right. I do not agree that some admins think most of my posts are to short. I am a very good poster and I think that this certain admin is wrong, but I don't dislike this admin. This admin could just be my friend one day. Sorry I went offtopic, but again good job admins.
See thaat post wasn't to short was it? I gave a whole paragraph and that is a a good bit.
See thaat post wasn't to short was it? I gave a whole paragraph and that is a a good bit.
QUOTE (Opethian)
I'm not going to lie so I am saying that I was dissapointed in getting a denied application. Although I applaud the reason behind it, I just wish you included this in the FAQ's or in the sign-up screen to filter a lot of people, generally those wouldn't even know how to speak proper english.
I make it a rule to not post replies shorter than 10 words, and even at that, I feel like I'm not doing much to the community. Although the quality of my posts maybe debatable, I'm hoping I do get approved in the future.
Link: view Post: 76845
I do think it makes sense to post short replies on occassion, but they are a small percentage of my posts. Sometimes the polite equivalent of RTFM and a good reference are complete answers to a question. It does not make sense to duplicate content when another, external page says it well. Of course, I also come from a BBS and newsgroup background where unnecessarily long posts and duplicating content are grounds for flaming.
That being said, even the shorter posts should meet a level of quality: they should be concise and *complete*. As for questions, they should also be complete enough that someone could conceivably help without playing twenty questions. There are a number of good style guidelines for bug reports out there (e.g.: http://www-mice.cs.ucl.ac.uk/multimedia/so...ortingBugs.html). The same considerations apply to any request for help on a forum.
lol so would that mean you would denie me?? i just started and posted more then 5 wrods...and 17 posts cause my cousin told be to post all the things he missed when he was away....so.. i helped himm is that bad...? well wonder will u ?
At the moment, pretty much yes. You have to work on the quality (and therefore length) of your posts, as well as use proper English sentences with no leet speak and other gaming/chat abbreviations.
Don't forget that not all topics or replies even need anything more than a one-liner and often doing so, is a waste of words, typing effort, space, sql call for storing a larger string among other things and is just plain un necessary.
Of course you could not post, but then threads would get no where lol.
Of course you could not post, but then threads would get no where lol.
QUOTE (cherri)
When Iv'e been posting my application for hosting, I saw people get denied for mainly these 2 reasons:- No Posts (No Credit Points)
- Not good quality of posts
There are more denies than accepts for what I see...
Hope this was helpfull...
Administrators please feel free to remove this post if you feel fit,
Thankyou
cherri
Link: view Post: 76395
waht a joke
[note=BuffaloHELP]This is the very post and point this topic was making...this is spam! Either you're willing to follow our forum rules or kindly make your exist to the left.[/note]
yeah dw about being tight u have to set rules im an admin on http://www.gamebros.org and were not tight enough and trust me the site is all over the place but were fixing it up if u could can u plz go to the site and tell me wat we can improve about it dw u dont need to make a account u can just pm me on this fourm site gamebros.org is also a fourm site any way im working on my way to trying to be a mod on this site i really want to help out with this site but it'll take me time to get there but i'll work up and when i do get to mod i'll try my best and help the most i can
QUOTE (mattpa23)
yeah dw about being tight u have to set rules im an admin on http://www.gamebros.org and were not tight enough and trust me the site is all over the place but were fixing it up if u could can u plz go to the site and tell me wat we can improve about it dw u dont need to make a account u can just pm me on this fourm site gamebros.org is also a fourm site any way im working on my way to trying to be a mod on this site i really want to help out with this site but it'll take me time to get there but i'll work up and when i do get to mod i'll try my best and help the most i can
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Well, since I started this topic, I'll toss in a reply after a long time away. I believe I did post somewhere on the importance of punctuation, mind you; mine is far from perfect. I was never taught the correct use of punctuation in the English language, and it does differ from my native language. But still...
In the post I quoted, I see no punctuation, it reads a lot harder than a post with punctuation, this is simply due to the fact that even in reading we need "breaks". That is how punctuation ended up in languages, to create a break, to breathe when speaking, or just pause when reading.
So that's what punctuation is? lol, been awhile since I have heard that one.
I also never really learnt any of that kind of thing in school, dropped out somewhat midway through year 8 (second year of high school for me here in Australia).
I never grasped too well when to use comma's and all that sort of thing, I'd like to believe I have improved a lot since using a computer, just trying to do the best I can sort of thing.
Doubt I would be anywhere near a professional level though lol.
I also never really learnt any of that kind of thing in school, dropped out somewhat midway through year 8 (second year of high school for me here in Australia).
I never grasped too well when to use comma's and all that sort of thing, I'd like to believe I have improved a lot since using a computer, just trying to do the best I can sort of thing.
Doubt I would be anywhere near a professional level though lol.
It is not that hard. Really. Take this test for starters:
http://www.better-english.com/easier/theyre.htm
Boasting aside, I did get 100%, but that is because of the work I put into fixing my grammar a little bit. I had a lot of problems with "there/their/they're," along with things like, "you're/your."
Now if only they had a your/you're quiz...
http://www.better-english.com/easier/theyre.htm
Boasting aside, I did get 100%, but that is because of the work I put into fixing my grammar a little bit. I had a lot of problems with "there/their/they're," along with things like, "you're/your."
Now if only they had a your/you're quiz...
Thanks For Bringing This Up! People Don't Have Patience So They Just Start To Make 5 Word Posts To Make There Hosting Credit Go Higher. Or People Just Quote Other Member Who Had Made A Big Post And Say Something Like "I Totally 100% Agree With You On This" I Hate People Who Do That! There Cheating, They shouldn't even be allowed to have free web hosting. I'm Glad That You Guys Have This Rule That You Must Have More Than 25 Words On a Post Otherwise It Counts As Spam! Once Again Thanks For Bringing This Up!
yeah that's true its so stupid when creating or replying to existing post that only contains 5 or less words, does that have the elaborative one? i mean, it's so unresponsive to the poster.
what about ^bump s?
I know it's weak, but i'm hardly trying to get hosting credits for that anyways lol... and plus i only did it once when i found something i wanted to post only to find it had already been posted...
by the way, i waited 2 years to apply for my hosting
I know it's weak, but i'm hardly trying to get hosting credits for that anyways lol... and plus i only did it once when i found something i wanted to post only to find it had already been posted...
by the way, i waited 2 years to apply for my hosting
QUOTE (Steven9088)
Thanks For Bringing This Up! People Don't Have Patience So They Just Start To Make 5 Word Posts To Make There Hosting Credit Go Higher. Or People Just Quote Other Member Who Had Made A Big Post And Say Something Like "I Totally 100% Agree With You On This" I Hate People Who Do That! There Cheating, They shouldn't even be allowed to have free web hosting. I'm Glad That You Guys Have This Rule That You Must Have More Than 25 Words On a Post Otherwise It Counts As Spam! Once Again Thanks For Bringing This Up! Link: view Post: 110154
Since I don't strive for hosting, nor am part of the admin team here - at least not anymore. I can happily post
/facepalm
in response to that post. Seriously, capitalized words indicate the beginning of a new sentence, punctuation as I've said before *does* matter. Caps are not a way to win. For the love of spelling and grammar, please don't take an example out of the quoted text. It made my eyes bleed.
Yeah, using capitals for all words isn't as bad as literal all caps, but it is still rather annoying and a bad habit to get into.
Or at least that is what I think.
You never know when you may have to write or type out a serious document and/or letter and use caps too much without thinking.
Or at least that is what I think.
You never know when you may have to write or type out a serious document and/or letter and use caps too much without thinking
.
I think the short posts come from one reason - people want to get their web as soon as possible. Patience is not characteristic for many people in this nuber me too .
Anyway I should've done it in a different way - once you have the account you must post consistent messages. If not your account can get suspended and even cancelled. In this way you'll be getting much more valuable posts especially what concerns the technical point - once you work on your web, you'll be heaped under myriad of smaller or bigger issues - related to writing scripts, adding material and graphics design...also making your site searchable which by far I don't know if it is possible with altahost account.
Well thats my own opinion. It has its drowback - more commitment for you who has to accept people on good will and then to evaluate them...
Cheers,
.Anyway I should've done it in a different way - once you have the account you must post consistent messages. If not your account can get suspended and even cancelled. In this way you'll be getting much more valuable posts especially what concerns the technical point - once you work on your web, you'll be heaped under myriad of smaller or bigger issues - related to writing scripts, adding material and graphics design...also making your site searchable which by far I don't know if it is possible with altahost account.
Well thats my own opinion. It has its drowback - more commitment for you who has to accept people on good will and then to evaluate them...
Cheers,
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