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Magic is what keeps me into fantasy video games. I think magic can be used as a term for something fantastic, or something to use as a surprise... Something to entertain people, but only in reference. I have grown up seeing all of the tricks, and that is what they are... tricks. I do believe in trickery as used as gags and for jokes. Illusionists, these are the present day magicians. I have seen David Copperfield and David Blane perform feets of great mystery. I think magic is pulling off something that is extremely hard to do, but is still possible.

So magic is fiction, and I like that magic is around to keep me into fantasy, and that is where is should stay.

Harry Potter, Final Fantasy and so on... they were good at making magic.

Sat Jan 26, 2008    Reply    New Discussion   


Wow. Did I seriously see this as a title? I'm shocked. No, brain control is not magic. I'm pretty sure that could be paralleled with mind washing, and I see a lot of people being mind washed by the government. That's no magic----that's just an arena we don't understand well. The psychologists (and psychology is a science) are attempting to understand it, but pretending that it's just magic implies the lack of a need to understand. And come on, how does magic explain any of this? What has "magic" done that would explain any of this? What is your purported magic anyway?

Magicians on TV are just doing something for entertainment; it's not as if they're junk. It's not like we all don't know that they have their little tricks that allow their illusions to succeed. We just don't know what those tricks are, and it's often amusing to watch them and try to figure it out.

Sun Jan 27, 2008    Reply    New Discussion   

Show me someone who claims to have "real" magical powers, and I'll show you someone who won't stand up to and kind of test. Sure, I appreciate that "magicians" are very talented people, but that doesn't mean they have actual magical powers at their disposal. Illusions are great, and a combination of them added with the magician knowing a little about how the mind works, and they can work wonders at seeming real.

Sun Jan 27, 2008    Reply    New Discussion   

It depends on your definition of magic. Some people might call things that can be explained by science magic, or illusions. Most of the things people think of as magic, say levitating, teleportation, etc. Could be done with science.

Though it only takes common sense to see that witches riding on broomsticks, turning people into frogs and making magical potions don't exist.

Mon Jan 28, 2008    Reply    New Discussion   


I've occasionally watch Criss Angel Mind Freak, it seems pretty real. Gotta wonder how he does it though. At the start of one episode though, he walked through a fence, then they changed the angle and there's a gap, lol.

I don't know if I believe it or not though.

There is the kind of magic though that you see on little kids shows or in fantasy things which no, I don't believe in.

Mon Jan 28, 2008    Reply    New Discussion   

QUOTE (OpaQue)

All unexplainable phenomenons cannot be termed a magic. For eg. Our existence itself is Magic. No one knows how we all came into existence. Did we all come into existence by Magic? What about Bermuda Triangle?

Magic is more about tricks and illusions. So, there is nothing wrong in believing it :-)
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As a one-time member of the International Brotherhood of Magicians, let me inform you that we prefer to call ourselves "Illusionists!" ^_^
The issue is not whether to believe it, but whether you have enough dexterity and the ability to distract the attention of the audience.

Tom Robbins gave the best reason for belief in magic:
“Disbelief in magic can force a poor soul into believing in government and business.”
he also said:
“The magician and the politician have much in common: they both have to draw our attention away from what they are really doing.”
He expresses my view of government better than I can! ;)

Mon Jan 28, 2008    Reply    New Discussion   

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I've occasionally watch Criss Angel Mind Freak, it seems pretty real. Gotta wonder how he does it though. At the start of one episode though, he walked through a fence, then they changed the angle and there's a gap, lol.

I don't know if I believe it or not though.

There is the kind of magic though that you see on little kids shows or in fantasy things which no, I don't believe in.
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Well...that guy Criss Angel is really Incredible...He actually split a girl in half in one of his videos...But it's hard to believe that...don't you think that...But maybe he's a specialist surgeon and he fixed her ^_^
But all magic is nice to see and i really like watching all kinds of magic videos....

Better thing is tricks like bar tricks with coins and bottles which YOU can actually do

Mon Jan 28, 2008    Reply    New Discussion   

Why is everyone intressted in videos xD
I try to use magic myself :P
I don't like to watch people watch magic.. I want to learn how to use it..
Maybe you think I am mad, but the magicans that uses "tricks" ain't magicans.
Magicans are people that uses real magic ;)

Tue Jan 29, 2008    Reply    New Discussion   

Well yeah, I agree that a lot of whom wants to learn some tricks to entertain friends or family, for example I know a trick with cards, every time I could find a card from the log somebody has picked, even though he or she was putting it back to the log and mixed the cards log.. ;) After a while some people could get the trick, some weren't interested and some said it is incredible, how do you do it.. but eventually after some time when I told them, most of them said "pfffff" thats so easy.. :P and I felt, that yeah it is very easy.. I guess thats why usually magicians don't give away their tricks.. Even though I saw some TV shows where they do or at least somebody does.. :P

Tue Jan 29, 2008    Reply    New Discussion   

Still.. Magic is not tricks :P Tricks are something else :P I don't call them magicans :P so please stopp calling them magicans xD
Magic is something else.. Something special. I am still trying to figure out what ;)

Wed Jan 30, 2008    Reply    New Discussion   

Sorry folks, as a voodo performer, it seems that I am the only guy really able to talk about magics at the present moment.
So, without wanting to be offending against anyone, I would like you to pay attention to a small detail.
Magc is neither science nor technology. Science is now able to perform things like levitation or holography which seemed magic some hundreds of years ago.
However, what we name magic today concerns things that cannot be explained neither by sciene nor by technology.
That's why I moved the present topic off the "Science and Technology" forum, to "The Einstein Factor" forum.
Regards
Yordan

Wed Jan 30, 2008    Reply    New Discussion   

I don't believe in magic. It's all trick. But trick is brilliant.

Sun Feb 17, 2008    Reply    New Discussion   

"Magic" from a magician is an illusion. That I believe in. The magic with the powder and the the wands? Pure BS, I think. I think it makes a good story, though. ;)

Tue Feb 19, 2008    Reply    New Discussion   

Now I understand my own problem. In french language we have two separate words.
"Le prestidigitateur" is the guy whose hands are very fast, and sometimes he also use powders and mirrors in order to make you believe things.
"Le magicien" is the guy who calls the supernatural powers around here, in order to obtain effects which are impossible by human standard means (like making rain fall without shipping rockets in the clouds). Sorcerers do that kind of things, but they use some artifacts which are not purely magics.

Tue Feb 19, 2008    Reply    New Discussion   

1. the art of producing illusions as entertainment by the use of sleight of hand, deceptive devices, etc.; legerdemain; conjuring: to pull a rabbit out of a hat by magic.
2. the art of producing a desired effect or result through the use of incantation or various other techniques that presumably assure human control of supernatural agencies or the forces of nature. ---Dictionary.com


I would like to note here the fact that magic is for entertainment. Also, if you look at the second definition it does say "techniques that presumably assure human control". So I would have to say I believe in magic. The magic of David Copperfield, Cris Angel etc. With this definition I have found, there is no doubt in my mind magic is real. Now when we start talking about putting hexes on people or other strange things of that nature, then I don't believe that.

Wed Feb 20, 2008    Reply    New Discussion   

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