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Ok I have tried Linux before, it was ok, until something with the kernel screwed up and it left me with a command line interface that I didn't know what to do.
I am looking for 2 different distributions of Linux here, my first one is for:
(Currently running Windows XP SP2)
A computer with 512 MB RAM
Pentium 4 processor
Internet Access
GNOME or KDE desktop, doesn't matter
Minimal command line work!!! Absolutely no command line work when installing.
I have tried Ubuntu, it was easy enough. Anything easier than Ubuntu and I'll give it a try.
My second choice is for:
(Currently running Windows 98 SE)
A computer with 64 MB RAM
Celeron processor - speed is 384mHz
No internet access
CD drive doesn't work
GNOME or KDE desktop
I would like to run a server for development purposes if I can (for the 2nd choice), otherwise I will have to use the newer computer for the server.
(Ignore that, I threw out the old computer and kept the hard drive.)
As long as I can browse the Internet, block emails, access OpenOffice.org, print and not have to worry about the command line, I'm happy. Any suggestions here?
I am looking for 2 different distributions of Linux here, my first one is for:
(Currently running Windows XP SP2)
A computer with 512 MB RAM
Pentium 4 processor
Internet Access
GNOME or KDE desktop, doesn't matter
Minimal command line work!!! Absolutely no command line work when installing.
I have tried Ubuntu, it was easy enough. Anything easier than Ubuntu and I'll give it a try.
My second choice is for:
(Currently running Windows 98 SE)
A computer with 64 MB RAM
Celeron processor - speed is 384mHz
No internet access
CD drive doesn't work
GNOME or KDE desktop
I would like to run a server for development purposes if I can (for the 2nd choice), otherwise I will have to use the newer computer for the server.
(Ignore that, I threw out the old computer and kept the hard drive.)
As long as I can browse the Internet, block emails, access OpenOffice.org, print and not have to worry about the command line, I'm happy. Any suggestions here?
Tue Oct 23, 2007 Reply New Discussion
I heavily recommend SuSE Linux, as for your system dropping out of graphical, it must be a driver fault or you might of messed up the X server's configuration files...
xboxrulz
xboxrulz
Tue Oct 23, 2007 Reply New Discussion
If you want to use linux, especially for something like a server, you REALLY should take the time to learn the very basics of the command line. 20-30minutes can leave you with a base understanding of how to navigate and pull off basic tasks using the command line so in the incident that something of that nature occurs you are not up the creek without a paddle so to speak. Further once you know the command line you probably will actually enjoy using it for various things 
Tue Oct 23, 2007 Reply New Discussion
I also highly recommend Linux for Dummies, I learnt basically everything Linux from that book. Plus, it handy if you need to work on other UNIX systems like MacOS X.
xboxrulz
xboxrulz
Tue Oct 23, 2007 Reply New Discussion
Well, Linux is Linux...
I've always ended up with pretty much the same installation system and you can choose whatever options you want to install such as server programs and the GUI. However, I haven't been happy with the server operation I encountered with the included programs. Basically, I couldn't figure out how to get it to work...
I do have a guide for installing Apache, PHP, Perl, and MySQL on a Linux system but haven't had a chance to try it out...
I really didn't like Ubuntu, Red Hat was okay and I currently have Fedora Core installed. The installers were graphical but it was difficult to set up the dual boot with my Windows system.
I only use it to play around with and hopefully figure out how to setup a viable web server.
Seems like GRUB works better that the alternative boot loaders.
Hope this helps.
vujsa
I've always ended up with pretty much the same installation system and you can choose whatever options you want to install such as server programs and the GUI. However, I haven't been happy with the server operation I encountered with the included programs. Basically, I couldn't figure out how to get it to work...
I do have a guide for installing Apache, PHP, Perl, and MySQL on a Linux system but haven't had a chance to try it out...
I really didn't like Ubuntu, Red Hat was okay and I currently have Fedora Core installed. The installers were graphical but it was difficult to set up the dual boot with my Windows system.
I only use it to play around with and hopefully figure out how to setup a viable web server.
Seems like GRUB works better that the alternative boot loaders.
Hope this helps.
vujsa
Wed Oct 24, 2007 Reply New Discussion
Personnally, I love Mandrake and Mandriva, it's free version.
Definitively I would say that, if you are a real beginner and if you don't want to use command line instructions, use Mandriva. You simply have to boot on the install CD. It's fully graphic and you simply have to accept the default answer to each question, and it will install a standard and fully usable system.
Of course, if you are really unlucky, you can have drivers problem. Then, sorry, try another distro, you only waste time because the Mandriva release is free.
Definitively I would say that, if you are a real beginner and if you don't want to use command line instructions, use Mandriva. You simply have to boot on the install CD. It's fully graphic and you simply have to accept the default answer to each question, and it will install a standard and fully usable system.
Of course, if you are really unlucky, you can have drivers problem. Then, sorry, try another distro, you only waste time because the Mandriva release is free.
Wed Oct 24, 2007 Reply New Discussion
I personally like ubuntu the best....it offers the easiest to install...and supports so much in the terms of hardware right out of the box, especially with the new version. With ubuntu you won't have so many of the hardware issues....it is much more like windows in detecting the hardware you have, and automatically installing drivers. And if you have a restricted driver (such as for an nVidia or ATI graphics card), it simply has a little icon saying that some are available, and you click a couple buttons and away you go with the installation.
As for your second machine are you wanting that to be command line free as well? (because usually servers are just command line, in order to not have to use as many resources on running the computer)
As for your second machine are you wanting that to be command line free as well? (because usually servers are just command line, in order to not have to use as many resources on running the computer)
Wed Oct 24, 2007 Reply New Discussion
Ok I am installing Ubuntu again on this computer. I will give Mandriva a try later on.
As for the server, I would prefer it to be a GUI, I have little resources on that system as noted above and it isn't a live server anyways.
As for the server, I would prefer it to be a GUI, I have little resources on that system as noted above and it isn't a live server anyways.
Thu Oct 25, 2007 Reply New Discussion
I was reading about suse linux, but I haven't tried it tried it my self, I hear that it's really good, and in some opinions better than ubuntu.
But if you want something that is incredibly easy to install, I would recommend ubuntu. The newest version is so easy to make your computer dual-boot if you don't want want to loose windows. In my experience all of the good linux platforms I've tried had some command line work involved when installing things, it's pretty easy once you understand everything and how it works.
But if you want something that is incredibly easy to install, I would recommend ubuntu. The newest version is so easy to make your computer dual-boot if you don't want want to loose windows. In my experience all of the good linux platforms I've tried had some command line work involved when installing things, it's pretty easy once you understand everything and how it works.
Sat Oct 27, 2007 Reply New Discussion
Ok I installed Ubuntu 7.04, upgraded to 7.10 when it prompted me but then the computer won't start Linux properly!!!
I had to go into recovery mode (or whatever they call it) and I tried typing in some things and it worked!!! I think I used apt-get and dpkg or something like that.
I don't know if I actually want to set up a server or not, I can always stay after school to work on stuff on the real server. But I have one small problem on Ubuntu: Firefox doesn't work!!! I click the icon, it says "Starting Firefox Web browser" and it goes away. In the task manager thing, it doesn't even start the process. How can I fix it?
I had to go into recovery mode (or whatever they call it) and I tried typing in some things and it worked!!!
I think I used apt-get and dpkg or something like that.I don't know if I actually want to set up a server or not, I can always stay after school to work on stuff on the real server. But I have one small problem on Ubuntu: Firefox doesn't work!!! I click the icon, it says "Starting Firefox Web browser" and it goes away. In the task manager thing, it doesn't even start the process. How can I fix it?
Sat Oct 27, 2007 Reply New Discussion
Launch it from the terminal and read the error messages. Post the errors here so we can see if we can help you.
xboxrulz
xboxrulz
Sat Oct 27, 2007 Reply New Discussion
I corrected the problem by downloading Firefox manually and manually moving the files over to /usr/lib/firefox.
Somehow that directory got deleted.
I had to do it via the terminal because I need to sign in as root user to access /usr directories. Is there a faster way to move files, like the old xcopy command in MS-DOS?
Somehow that directory got deleted.
I had to do it via the terminal because I need to sign in as root user to access /usr directories. Is there a faster way to move files, like the old xcopy command in MS-DOS?
Sun Oct 28, 2007 Reply New Discussion
QUOTE (FirefoxRocks)
Firefox doesn't work!!! I click the icon, it says "Starting Firefox Web browser" and it goes away. In the task manager thing, it doesn't even start the process. How can I fix it?Link: view Post: 112857
this is probably due to the fact that your ubuntu Linux did not start up properly. i'm pretty sure that the menu you choose in order to startup was something like "starting without network".
And the network settings were probably the reason why the desktop could not start properly.
I would suggest you to simply boot on the "Mandriva One" livecd, and see if it works correctly. Booting from a CD will last a little bit more, and you will have to answer some stupid questions like "english keyboard or not?" but you will see if all your screen and ethernet drivers are present and if the whole thing agrees with your way of thinking.
Booting from a liveCD is a way of testing Mandriva without installing it on your hard disk : if you like it you install it, if you don't like it simply forget about it. But the way I see you hating command line and security things tells me that you definitively should choose Mandriva.
Sun Oct 28, 2007 Reply New Discussion
I have tried Suse linux 10 which i find very usefull , but internet access is hit and miss. Maybe it is because i have a us robotics ADSL ROUTER/MODEM which only has windows drivers? i have an AMD dual core processor 64 bit. 1024mb ram
Sun Oct 28, 2007 Reply New Discussion
Why don't you try Freespire? It's based on Ubuntu, but has the same package system than Linspire, very easy to search and install packages.
Mon Oct 29, 2007 Reply New Discussion
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