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when can I to learn to build games?
With which languages I can build games?

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   Wed Oct 20, 2004    Reply         

For total noobs, I recon?
Flash MX 2004,
DarkBASIC, ...
For somebody who knows what he's doing?
C / C++
Java (perhaps, perhaps =/)
& OpenGl

I'm assuming Application Games? Not webbased etc..? Flash is kind of webbased, though.. or just PHP if you're looking to make a webpage that's an interactive game..

   Wed Oct 20, 2004    Reply         

I have started Game Programming when i was 13.. with a very basic VisualBasic
:)
and now i still use VisualBasic ,But + DirectX = =''

   Fri Oct 29, 2004    Reply         


if you know c/c++ these links might help you :)

General
http://www.voodooextreme.com Gives you a lot of info and screen shots of the newest games. This might help you keep an eye on what is possible in game programming. Sometimes it provides you with leaked drivers and information on game development, but it's not for developers only.

http://www.bluesnews.com Follows the same rules as Voodoo Extreme. Both are nice sites; they are like your daily newsletter, entertaining and informative.

http://www.realtimerendering.com A list of interesting links for graphics programming.

DirectX Graphics
http://msdn.microsoft.com/directx. This is the source. Read the articles of Philip Taylor.

   Sat Oct 30, 2004    Reply         

DirectX ay......
DirectX is good... but i would recomend OpenGL.

when chhosing between OpenGL and directX there is no right and wrong.
both are very powerfull, both are supported by all major graphics cards,
and both give similar results in benchmarking tests.

but i would recoment OpenGL for the following reasons...
1)1 find it easyer to learn and use (you may not, this is just a personal opinion)
2) OpenGL is portable.

if you write a game in DirectX you are limiting it run Only On MS windows, X-Box and Under emulation for other platforms, which is extremely slow.

a Ganme written in open GL can easily be ported to any Operating system. Litterally everything supports OpenGL.

Linux is slowly creaping into desktop computers, at the moment linux gamers have a more limited choise of games, if your game will run on windows / Linux in the future you will be opening up your customer base.

In addition to OpenGL, have a look into things like SDL.
SDL is the next level in portability, games written in OpenGL can be easiily re-coded to run in other operating systems, but if you program in SDL, games can run on multiple platforms without having to tweak the source code,

Also... anouther thing OpenGL has got going for it...
the GREATEST game programming tutorial website ever......

definatly have a look at this website
http://nehe.gamedev.net/

hope you find this usefull.

   Mon Nov 1, 2004    Reply         

I am hoping to create an online rpg, loosely based on the dungeons and dragons rule set but probably altered to suit my own needs.

I am hoping to host it on this site once I have enough posts (it will be almost entirely text based, so it won't require much BW or storage). I am planning on using php to create this game (it only needs to be browser based, no graphics, pure text -CLASSIC)

Can anybody advise where the best place to start is (with regards to the programming side - design wise I'm sure I can manage)

   Mon Nov 15, 2004    Reply         


With all repsect to the above posts , if you're a complete begginer , it's gonna take you ages before you start seeing 3D cube in your C++ or whatever game ...


I suggest using one of the following :

- 3Drad ( a free version avaialble )
- Blitz3D ( a powerful but harder than 3Drad since it doesnt have a Virtual Editor )
- DarkBasic ( havent really played with it but it's very popular )

If you want to Harden thigns a little go for
Torque ( it's the engine behind Tribes 2 )


URLS :

3Drad - http://www.3drad.com
Blitz3D - http://www.blitzbasic.com
Darkbasic - http://www.thegamecreators.com,

Torque - http://www.garagegames.com

hope I helped

   Thu Nov 18, 2004    Reply         

I would suggest you not try torque. I was a concept artist at NeuralForge before it died (rest in peace NF, we loved you well!), and we tried to see if we could use it because it was cheap. The reality is that it is very complicated and opaque for a starting programmer(at least according to our chief programmers at NF). So much so in fact that we decided it would be faster and cheaper in the long run to just write our own engine since we couldn't afford to license the unreal engine from Epic. For your purposes though, its going to be a LONG time before you will be able to program an engine. But the programming is just the beginning. Putting together the art and content is at least the same amount of work. Making a game, especially a good one, is very hard, and I suggest that you try to find some like minded people and get their help on your project. It could be that you could convince a good programmer that your vision is so cool that he wants to help you out, and maybe a few artists as well. It has happened before! Anyway, best of luck.

   Thu Nov 25, 2004    Reply         

I would personally reccomend DarkBASIC if you are a total beginner at game programming. Even though the language is in relation to Q-BASIC, it is still a solid, stable language. An example of code used to create a simple 3d cube is as below:

make object cube <object number>, <size>

It's as simple as that. If you were to enter that code (with numbers replaced with the items in the brackets) in the built-in compiler, then you would see a simple cube on the screen. I'm sure that there is a lot more commands than that, but I wanted to give you an example. There are two versions of this product: Classic and Professional. Both are good, but it all depends on the features you want and what you are willing to pay.

DarkBASIC Homepage

   Sat Dec 11, 2004    Reply         

Is there a tool for beginners for free? I'm beginner in games but i'm able to model (with gmax) and scripting (with html and PHP).

   Sun Dec 12, 2004    Reply         

There is a game engine that you can get for free. It's called Genesis 3D. This may not have all the advanced features that you would find in Unreal Engine, but it can be a start. The engine uses C/C++ as the language. The only downpoint to this engine is the point that you would need to pay a license fee to be able to sell it. It also includes a level creator and a model importer as well.

   Mon Dec 13, 2004    Reply         

lol hats off to you guys....lots to learn in this field..hope i can get an understanding of programming in general...much less learn to program a game or a 3d game. ^_^

   Wed Dec 15, 2004    Reply         

You could actually learn 3d rotations, then make a 3d game based on that.

It takes time, a knowledge of mathematics, a knowledge of a programming language and dedication. But it is very rewarding when you complete your first 3D engine.

I use QuickBasic, slow as it may be, but a sweet language to progam in never the less.

   Mon Dec 20, 2004    Reply         

QUOTE

Is there a tool for beginners for free? I'm beginner in games but i'm able to model (with gmax) and scripting (with html and PHP).


There is a website that contains some game engines that people have written. The very cool thing about it is some of them, is that the authors allows you to use them for free:

http://cg.cs.tu-berlin.de/~ki/engines.html

   Wed Dec 22, 2004    Reply         

you can also use CrystalSpace as a free 3d engine.

In any case, hunt around on sourceforge for whatever it is you are looking for.

   Wed Dec 22, 2004    Reply         

2 websites for u man:

www.gamasutra.com

www.gamedev.net

personally i think all the websites u need to get u started on game dev. Of course, after the begining of the journey, its all up to u man. Kudos!!

   Wed Dec 29, 2004    Reply         

QUOTE (Blackbird)

Is there a tool for beginners for free? I'm beginner in games but i'm able to model (with gmax) and scripting (with html and PHP).
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I am a beginner in games too.I hope that my game can run on any os.
So I am studying SDL now.

And I found a good python modules for writing games:
http://www.pygame.org/
Python is very easy to be learned,so is pygame, :)

   Mon Jan 24, 2005    Reply         

GameMaker is a very handy program for beginners.
www.gamemaker.nl

   Fri Mar 4, 2005    Reply         

a very good RPG maker


RPG Maker XP | Good sites for downloads

Phylomortis
http://www.phylomortis.com

RPG Revolution
http://rrr.phpwned.net/

RPG Fantasy | German
http://www.rpgf.de/modules.php?name=RMXP

Enterbrain | the original Japanese creaters but there have been many translations includeing me and a japanese extange student from my school
http://www.enterbrain.co.jp/

   Thu Mar 31, 2005    Reply         

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