Kushika
Feb 11 2006, 04:44 PM
I understand that there are alot of security updates in SP2. But I'm not sure if I should upgrade (I'm using Windows XP SP1). I have a decent anti-virus software installed, as well as a few freeware bit 'n' bobs. Also, if new viruses are made, are they exploiting the faults in SP1 or SP2? Or does it not matter which one they target? Microsoft claims: QUOTE The vast majority of users upgrade to SP2 without a hitch, but there are some unusual cases where users have software or hardware configurations that cause problems with starting their computers after they install SP2. Personally, I'm slightly worried that the installation will fail and that I won't be able to recover my SP1 nor access my computer. I am running on a genuine version of Windows. I've never understood Service Packs, so I'm not sure how serious a fail could be. Any one here know what the worst possible scenario could be? And do you guys think it is worth for me to upgrade?
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wutske
Feb 11 2006, 10:02 PM
There's a been a discussion on this subject before, search function will probably help. As for me, I still use SP1 and I've never had any security issues, mainly because a) I have a descent (free) virusscanner, namely Avast wich protects my at different levels  I have a descent firewall wich is configured rahter strictly (loooots of blocked ports) c) I regulary run adware, spybot, etc ... d) I don't use Internet Exploder, nor outlook express, but I use opera w/ M2 So, you're safe enough w/o SP2, plus, you safe yourself a lot of freaking balloons, pop-ups and other crappy questions that keeps annoying you (I could stand it 10min before I reseted the pc and started intstalling SP1 again  ). Oh, and if you'd want to upgrade to SP2, there normaly arent' issues anymore, so it will prolly run completely flawless. Afterwards you can uninstall SP2 as if it was a normal program. Oh(2), always make back-up, it sooner to late than you expect.
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fishling
Feb 11 2006, 11:23 PM
there are so many exploits in service pack 1 that you really should update
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xboxrulz
Feb 13 2006, 12:09 AM
there are many exploits on SP2, it creates some itself and doesn't patch crap. The only patch that it gave me is game stability. 3D rendering is fixed with SP2, that's all. xboxrulz
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Jeigh
Feb 13 2006, 01:03 AM
I'd say it's good for people who are complete tech-incompetents, since it sets firewalls and auto-updates on by default. Plus SP2 has a bunch of the security fixes that have been released that are now widely publicized security holes so it would be good to fix them just in case. Personally I'd reccomend it even though it's only annoyed me haha. I ahven't noticed any problems, just annoyances with the security center keeping trying to be more in control then I'll let it 
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Kushika
Feb 15 2006, 09:22 PM
QUOTE(Jeigh @ Feb 13 2006, 01:03 AM) 
I'd say it's good for people who are complete tech-incompetents, since it sets firewalls and auto-updates on by default.
Are you talking about that rubbish Microsoft firewall that does absolutely nothing? XD It leads to a false sense of in security in my opinion. Once I actually properly back-up my system, or atleast, the important documents, I'll try to give SP2 a go. By the way, does it take up a lot of file space? I don't mean the initial installation file, but the whole service pack in general? Becuase I'm already using alot of diskspace as it is. Thanks for your previous replyies guys!
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sparx
Feb 16 2006, 05:50 AM
We all agree that SP2 fixes up old holes and also creates new ones. Bottom line is - keep your PC updated with the latest patches. SP2 has been out for quite some time and has had the smallest percentages of install failures in the recorded history of Windows Updates [ barring Win2003Server updates]. As with all major software upgrades, backup to a separate location [ like a CD / DVD ] or another HDD. Prevention is better than having to waste time huntinig and then implementing the cure. If the hole to exploit is absent you won't be infected with the malware designed specifically to look for that hole in your PC. My opinion - take the plunge. Install SP2 but take the precaution of backing up your data.
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finaldesign
Feb 16 2006, 08:46 AM
don't worry too much, just install it. If it won't work, then you probably have pirated version of ms win Xp.  and then go buy a legal one in store, and everything will work fine..
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tt3
Feb 16 2006, 09:33 PM
I would upgrade to SP2. There really isn't any reason why you shouldn't and I'd imagine that more and more Microsoft software or updates will require SP2. I believe the IE7 beta requires Service Pack 2, and no doubt the final release will too.
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Flash¹³
Mar 13 2006, 02:10 AM
I've personally never had a problem with SP2, at all. I got one of the 'first' public releases of it (before they quietly added a few fixes) and it hasn't broken since. Yes the firewall is a bit on the lame side, and the security centre is over zelous at first, but it can all be set up just the way I like it... And I don't see any problems with automatic updates. All in all, SP2 was one of the least painful updates I've done (after I turned off system restore, damn that takes a long time on this system  ). t33 makes a good point with future compatibility too, and not just MS stuff, I know of lots of programs that require SP2 to work properly
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nightfox
Apr 11 2006, 01:19 PM
QUOTE(xboxrulz @ Feb 12 2006, 08:09 PM)
there are many exploits on SP2, it creates some itself and doesn't patch crap.
nonono, it "patches" maybe 2 old holes, but it just opens 5 million new holes! lol Anyway, when I service a Windows XP computer, my boss always has me put on SP1 if they don't already have it. When SP2 was new, pretty much all of my computers couldn't take it. They'd slow down to where an old NEC PowerMate V116e (100 MHz Pentium, 16K or 64K of RAM, Win95) was slightly faster. And these were computers which were much faster too... Microsoft support didn't help at all. I think even AOL tech support could have figured this one out. Tip: NEVER "embed" the new SP until you have VERIFIED it won't slow your system down. When a 1.8 GHz computer begins to "lag" and act really slow just after you installed a new service pack, then remove it. Else if it works fine, remove it and THEN embed it. [N]F
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xboxrulz
Apr 10 2006, 03:07 PM
there isn't much of a difference. The main difference is that it plugged old holes and made new ones. xboxrulz
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Kushika
Apr 10 2006, 02:18 PM
QUOTE(kgd2006 @ Apr 7 2006, 11:56 AM)
I believe the security in SP2 is upgraded to a really good extent.
It also have its own pop up blocker I believe that prevents them annoying pop ups that we get when we visit sites.
I would definitely reccomend you to get upgraded to SP2, the new secuirty features installed to the system are features I believe you probably cant regret, well thats if you like seeing pop ups...haha
Yes, it does have IE with a pop-up blocker. Nevertheless, I use Firefox so I have a pop-up blocker already. Apart from security fixes, I don't think there's much of a difference between SP1 & 2.
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kgd2006
Apr 7 2006, 10:56 AM
I believe the security in SP2 is upgraded to a really good extent. It also have its own pop up blocker I believe that prevents them annoying pop ups that we get when we visit sites. I would definitely reccomend you to get upgraded to SP2, the new secuirty features installed to the system are features I believe you probably cant regret, well thats if you like seeing pop ups...haha
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fcfosters
Apr 7 2006, 07:43 AM
If u dont upgrade to sp2 some programs refuses to co-operate.. But yes sp2 includes loads of crap.
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