Omkar™
May 22 2006, 10:46 AM
| | I'm a fan of the Microsoft Corporation and I simply love their OS(s).
The best thing about a Windows OS is: 1. Its GUI - Windows are the best GUI I've seen, compared to MacOS & even Linux. 2. Its compaitibility - 99% of the softwares on the planet are compaitible with Windows.
Here's what my collection is about: (in latest order) Windows Vista (Beta) Windows XP (Home/Professional & Media Centre edition) Windows 2000 Professional Windows ME Windows 98SE (Now that's ancient!)
I think that's about a Microsoft Windows OS Collection. A suggesstion : Micorosft should also launch a Collectors' Edition of their OS(s), what do you think?
-Omkar Ekbote
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finaldesign
May 22 2006, 11:06 AM
Don't brag much about Microsoft Windows. If you didn't know, windows STEALED their GUI. As they stealed almost every idea they have implemented into windows. I think many people here don't like MS windows too much... And, your collection? I really have some strange feeling that you don't have neither ONE legal copy of windows now, do you?
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Omkar™
May 22 2006, 11:20 AM
QUOTE(finaldesign @ May 22 2006, 04:36 PM)  Don't brag much about Microsoft Windows.
If you didn't know, windows STEALED their GUI. As they stealed almost every idea they have implemented into windows.
I think many people here don't like MS windows too much... And, your collection? I really have some strange feeling that you don't have neither ONE legal copy of windows now, do you?
Hey, dude - don't discourage me. If you try to tell me that Microsoft Corporation has stolen thier ideas then I would like to see you tell me from where!! And yes, I have ALL Licensed copies of Windows, for your kind information - except Window 98SE. So, better not call me illegal! Also, you cannot challenge the compaitibility of Windows, cause you know that 99% of the software on the planet IS compaitible with Windows. -Omkar Ekbote
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seec77
May 22 2006, 11:37 AM
About your statement on compatability, that might be true, but nowadays most neccessary programs can be found in possibly GPLed versions that can run even better on Linux. Firefox for Microsoft IE, OpenOffice.org for Microsoft Office, GIMP for Adobe Photoshop, Gaim for ICQ, MSN Messenger and others, and the list is really never-ending. If the program you want isn't available on Linux, and there's no replacement for it, you can always try running it on Wine, even though admittadely it doesn't run everything, especially not games, though work is being made on that area, and you can always dual-boot your Linux copy with Windows. Besides, all those licensed copies must have cost quite a fortune. And I mean quite a fortune. And let's not even start about buying licenses for Office! Besides, you also are going to have to pay a lot of money for a computer technician to rid your computer of viruses and spyware, which your costly anti-virus program can't take care of. I know I'm being a bit of a zealot here, but I really believe what I say. What you are right about is the GUI and fewease of use though. I've had a hard time installing Linux, and I ended up with running a live-CD version for a hours without internet connectivity (had a hard time, and eventually gave up on trying to configure my USB Wi-Fi adaptor). Windows is just so easy and nice to use, from what I've seen. I've been acquainted in my old school with really old versions of Macintosh (it was around 1998), and they are probably far less useful than today's OS X or whatever, but I remember not liking it back then. All I can say is that Windows has a very nice GUI and user-friendliness, and no one can dispute that, because up 'til now Windows has been quite friendly to me, and I am a user after all, and not much of a power one. To summarize my opinions, no side is absolutely better. Both have so much to learn, but I really can't wait to already have Linux installed permanently on my HD, even though right now I really don't have the time or energy needed (and a lot is needed) to start messing around with partitioning and everything else involved with installing a new Tux-based system.
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finaldesign
May 22 2006, 11:37 AM
QUOTE(Omkar™ @ May 22 2006, 01:20 PM)  If you try to tell me that Microsoft Corporation has stolen thier ideas then I would like to see you tell me from where!!
From Xerox. Oh and there is MacOs too.. And there is many other things too. QUOTE(Omkar™ @ May 22 2006, 01:20 PM)  And yes, I have ALL Licensed copies of Windows, for your kind information - except Window 98SE. So, better not call me illegal!
good for you. QUOTE(Omkar™ @ May 22 2006, 01:20 PM)  Also, you cannot challenge the compaitibility of Windows, cause you know that 99% of the software on the planet IS compaitible with Windows.
and there is still that 1% that isn't. Let me tell you something. Do you know why windows are so popular? It's because people are soo stupid, so they are using windows.
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Twistit
May 22 2006, 11:38 AM
I cant see the point where he challenged the compatibility of Windows.. But thats the only reason i use it. Thats because Windows has the monopoly on the software market and doesnt give a chance to other like Linux or Mac. But they did steal most of there idea's.. just take a frikkin look at there latest beta internet explorer and compare to firefox. Haha and the GUI? The GUI in windows 3.1 was even stolen from mac.
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Omkar™
May 22 2006, 11:52 AM
Hey, all guys! What I started this topic for is the Windows OPERATING SYSTEM!!! All you guys are talking about Microsoft's Applications! I know there are many (better) substitutes available for every Microsoft Application (thanks to its compaitibility!), but I collect Microsoft Windows OS(s) only.
P.S.: I myself use Firefox, so no praises for IE there!...
-Omkar Ekbote
Conclusion : I think the COMPAITIBILITY of Windows has made it survive. Apart from some users saying Microsoft has copied its ideas, I still think the Windows GUI rocks! -Omkar Ekbote
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Twistit
May 22 2006, 11:56 AM
Your just hitting a wrong spot here by saying Windows is so great by there GUI and Compatibility, Other OS's could have a chance if microsoft didnt sue everybody that try's to make there os compatible with the worlds software. And i seen some nicer GUI's but thats personal cant judge about that. (btw i miss linux in the voting list)
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miCRoSCoPiC^eaRthLinG
May 22 2006, 12:14 PM
Guys - carry on.. this is going all out to be a raging fight  It's gonna be fun - but please no flaming, no cursing and swearing at each other.. Lets see how far you can pull this - while maintaining as much decency as you can
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ganeshn11
May 22 2006, 02:26 PM
Aha! Seems that you have nice and latest versions of the Micro$oft Windows Opertaing System. But the fact I would like to mention here is that many people have the Micro$oft Windows Opertaing Systems you have, to be out of the line and to have your own identity, you need something ancient, right? QUOTE Windows 98SE (Now that's ancient!) You say Micro$oft Windows 98SE is ancient? Check that again, I seem to have an pre-historic version of them. Here is what I have. In increasing order of its pre-histority- Micro$oft Windows 98SE
- Micro$oft Windows 98
- Micro$oft Windows 95
- Micro$oft Windows 3.1 --> First version of Windows
- Micro$oft
Windows DOS 1 to 4.
Can you beat that? Apart from these, I have the Micro$oft Windows 2000 Professional, Micro$oft Windows XP Home Edition, but these are still there in the market. And dont count as something great. One more thing that I would like to tell is that all my pre-historic versions legal. (  I dont have tech-support for them now!) Every time a new version of the OS realeases my dad is the first one to get it (He is crazy about Windows  ). And because of that he does'nt allow me to install Linux, but I still managed to install RedHat Linux 9. And taking about compatibility, every one must agree that Micro$oft Windows is the best, even in user friendly issues. I feel its the best because I still have'nt managed to connect to the internet in Linux using my ethernet card's cable connection.
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xboxrulz
Aug 8 2006, 02:33 AM
All I can say, right now is that UNIX is the most beautiful piece of operating system you'll ever see. It's highly compliant (within POSIX) and you can swap between them. Windows is NOT compatible with other operating systems. For distro compliancy, most distros are cross compatible. The same binary can work for different Linuxes. Same with FreeBSD, FreeBSD is highly compliant w/ Linux. Even Solaris is comming up w/ a Linux ABI to run Linux software natively. Anyways, the chances of me going to Vista, as in moving in permanently? The chances would be 1:(the distance between centre of the Spiral Galaxy to Sun and back). xboxrulz
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tamer3kz
Jun 2 2006, 05:26 AM
Well, Omkar, if your goal from starting this thread is for people to disclose the various versions of Microsoft's Operating Systems they have, I might as well pitch in... - DOS 6.2 and 6.22 (on floppy disks)
- Windows 3.1
- Windows 3.11
- Windows 95
- Windows 98 Second Edition
- Windows Millennium Edition
- Windows 2000 Professional Edition
- Windows XP Corporate Edition (multiuser license)
Of course, all of them are legal, authentic versions. So does that mean I'm a Microsoft fan? Absolutely not. In fact, at times I can be 100% anti-Microsoft. But frankly, my family would never consider using any other OS, and I'm always looking forward to test new software, so I go ahead and purchase Windows Operating Systems. I don't think I'm going to get Vista though, since XP is doing a great job for my family. As for me, I run a dual-boot system between a version of Linux I created from scratch and Mircosoft Windows XP. I'm not going to discuss why I'm not such a raving fan of Microsoft, since this is a subject that's been brutally discussed before, and the guys here have it pretty well covered. But I can understand where you're coming from. Windows gives you what you need, so you have no reason to look for anything more. I suppose there's nothing wrong with that, from a pragmatic, arguably short-sighted view. Anyway, thanks for starting a thread that provoked some members into writing very interesting posts  . Warm regards, Mobham
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Omkar™
Jun 2 2006, 04:39 AM
QUOTE(ganeshn11 @ May 22 2006, 07:56 PM)  Can you beat that? One more thing that I would like to tell is that all my pre-historic versions legal. (  I dont have tech-support for them now!) Every time a new version of the OS realeases my dad is the first one to get it (He is crazy about Windows  ). And because of that he does'nt allow me to install Linux, but I still managed to install RedHat Linux 9. And taking about compatibility, every one must agree that Micro$oft Windows is the best, even in user friendly issues. I feel its the best because I still have'nt managed to connect to the internet in Linux using my ethernet card's cable connection. Hey, Ganeshn11, you're the only one who seems to be on my side. As for your ancient collection, three cheers! (and one more from me!).
Keep up the Microsoft pride, dude. Thanks a lot!
-Omkar Ekbote
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xboxrulz
May 23 2006, 11:32 PM
it is true that Linux needs standardization, that's why we have the new Linux Standards Base 3.1, which also standardizes desktop. This means that Linux is both LSB and POSIX compliant but Windows is only WIN32 compliant and no one knows the whole compliancy ('cept the employees). Actually, distros like Fedora, SuSE and Ubuntu are swappable between each other except the package management system. xboxrulz
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CaptainRon
May 23 2006, 11:16 PM
qwijibow, you kill the point here. UNIX is by far the master piece of a human brain in designing an operating system. Every person who is into computer science will know it and admire it just like I do. There are lots of things in this world that are superb, yet they fail. This were the difference between a tech guy and a business man lies. OK probably I would like to end this discussion by quoting an interview of Ken Thompson (designer of UNIX, co-creator) on Linux. http://www.theregister.co.uk/1999/05/05/un...lambasts_linux/QUOTE "I view Linux as something that's not Microsoft -- a backlash against Microsoft, no more, no less," he said. "I don't think it will be very successful in the long run." And that is exactly what I have been trying to prove! Considering present pace of Open Source, it will not withstand the MS pressure. Those who have migrated from Windows to Linux will soon migrate back to Vista and wudn't even look back! Hell they don't care about some quirky chroot() or POSIX standards! QUOTE "My experience and some of my friends' experience is that Linux is quite unreliable. Microsoft is really unreliable but Linux is worse. In a non-PC environment, it just won't hold up. When the mastermind says that, I simply don't feel like arguing against it. Whatever advantages of Linux are quoted, is all due to UNIX in the first place. QUOTE A whole bunch of random people have contributed to this source, and the quality varies drastically ...Linux needs standardization  qwijibow, what your friend described about sounds much rather like the disk image tool. back up the hard disk when it is in good state as an image. whenever u see ur system crashing, simply restore the image in a matter of few minutes. I don't know exactly but yes in Linux maybe I could do it with the dd command
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