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QUOTE(Arbitrary @ Jul 5 2006, 01:06 AM) True, very true. At most stores there's this whole section entirely dedicated to PCs, but just a time sector for Macs. And obviously if Macs were advertised more and had more users, they probably would be able to lower the price. Although the problem currently is that most average users currently use the PC, and unless they had some really compe... read more.
Mac Minis are affordable as long as you provide your own keyboard, mouse, etc.They just provide you with the head and you have to fit in the body(or so The Straits Time's Digital Life said).
After all, I have never used Mac OS X but seen it before but honestly, I prefer Windows XP's looks but Fedora still beats Windows.As for the hardware, I'll rather build one myself since it'll be cheaper and can be upgraded later, etc. I hate Apple's iPods but their computers ain't ugly except for their price tags.The Mac Mini might change that but maybe I'll look for a second one and install a Windows XP/Fedora/dual-boot system.
We looked a one to use as a storage server.
QUOTE Apple Computer Xserve RAID 5.6TB 400GB (x14) 1GB Cache 2x2GB Fibre Channel - 3U Rack This is the model: Xserve M9723LL/A but I'm still looking  Affordable is in the eye of the beholder. Nils QUOTE(NilsC @ Jan 28 2005, 09:34 PM) We looked a one to use as a storage server. This is the model: Xserve M9723LL/A but I'm still looking Affordable is in the eye of the beholder. Nils  Very True. We use an Xserve at my work( a news station) and we love it because it gives us no crap. But its all in what you want. That being said, I was refering to home users/desktop users.
For basic home users, they are better off getting a computer from some brand name company like HP with complete warranty or a custom built computer provider who also offers that.And of course, make sure that the provider can be trusted.
They say that the iMac Mini won't be too expensive...or what they say since when you are considering upgrade, you still have to buy the stuff directly from them...will be that still be considered cheap?! No, I don't think so.For UKers/British people, they should go for Tiny.com since I've read all about it from PCAnswers in Singapore.For Americans, I don't know since I dislike PCWorld/Magazine but for Singaporeans...I don't recommend anything other than building a computer yourself after buying all the parts from Sim Lim Square 
QUOTE(Strykerclan Leader @ Jan 29 2005, 03:09 AM) For basic home users, they are better off getting a computer from some brand name company like HP with complete warranty or a custom built computer provider who also offers that.And of course, make sure that the provider can be trusted. They say that the iMac Mini won't be too expensive...or what they say since when you are considering upgrade, you still have to buy the stuff directly from them...will be that still be considered cheap?! No, I don't think so.For UKers/British people, they should go for Tiny.com since I've read all about it from PCAnswers in Singapore.For Americans, I don't know since I dislike PCWorld/Magazine but for Singaporeans...I don't recommend anything other than building a computer yourself after buying all the parts from Sim Lim Square Only you DON"T have to buy stuff directly from them, and it has a warranty. Don't forget the cost of software, because you have to buy a lot more on the PC.
well i have been weighing up the prospect of getting a iBook for about a year but am going to wait untill my parents put WiFi in there house (and G5's come out). The mini mac does look good but for desktop to be honest i think a PC is better. If they came down in price a bit more or increased the initial hardware then i might be tempted.
I think I'm still going to stick with a Windows-based machine.
Firstly, you can get a very good Windows machine for a lot less money. Secondly, from what I've seen, Windows supports a lot more software out there. The majority of developers write for Windows because, of course, the majority of the population uses Windows. Thirdly, I've never had much of a problem with Windows, so why should I switch? And finally, if I ever do have a problem with Windows, it is very easy to find help. Since almost everyone uses Microsoft's OS, you find that there are a lot more people you can ask for help with Windows. So as long as the majority of developers and users utilize Windows, I'm going to stick with Windows myself. QUOTE(lasto i glemyr @ Jan 29 2005, 11:55 PM) I think I'm still going to stick with a Windows-based machine. Firstly, you can get a very good Windows machine for a lot less money. Secondly, from what I've seen, Windows supports a lot more software out there. The majority of developers write for Windows because, of course, the majority of the population uses Windows. Thirdly, I've never had much of a problem with Windows, so why should I switch? And finally, if I ever do have a problem with Windows, it is very easy to find help. Since almost everyone uses Microsoft's OS, you find that there are a lot more people you can ask for help with Windows. So as long as the majority of developers and users utilize Windows, I'm going to stick with Windows myself. So, total pack mentality. Fair enough. QUOTE Thirdly, I've never had much of a problem with Windows, so why should I switch? Totally !!! ive never had a problem with my bike,, so why bother trying a car.. surely all that extra wight means you have o peddal extra hard !!! so you never had a problem with windows... so that means you have never de-fragmented your hard disk, scanned for virii or spywware, never re-installed, never re-booted, never had to install a service pack. I never had a problem with windows, untill i tried anouther OS and discovered that Windows was the only OS which suffered Spyware, Adware, virii, and a filesystem that detiriorates over time, and constantly neds to be proped back up with a "defragmentor" just to stop it grinding to a hault. if you dont try, you will never know. and its always fun to talk nerd, Latest EntriesQUOTE(Arbitrary @ Jul 5 2006, 01:06 AM) True, very true. At most stores there's this whole section entirely dedicated to PCs, but just a time sector for Macs. And obviously if Macs were advertised more and had more users, they probably would be able to lower the price. Although the problem currently is that most average users currently use the PC, and unless they had some really compelling reason to switch, they probably aren't going to do it. So unless Apple can come up with some nice reasons....not many users will actually be motivated to change. (People dislike change, right?  )Once upon a time when I was in elementary and middle school I used Macs--iBooks and iMacs, and eMacs. I didn't really have a huge preference for Macs, mainly because at home I used a PC and thus was more used to a PC. Currently I have no intention of switching to a Mac, as I'm perfectly happy with the PC I have. The reason most stores do not sell Macs is the difficulty of getting into the Apple retail chain. Apple puts a lot of requirements on a store if they are going to sell Apple products: displays, prices, bundling, sales, amount of space dedicated, service, etc. All of the rules have to be met to sell Macs. This limits the number of places which sell Macs, but it guarantees that all of them will meet a level of quality and portray a particular image. They do not want to just be stuck on a shelf as just "another computer". I also think some of it has to do with throttling their growth rate a bit. Apple does not want to go from 7% to 14% market penetration overnight. There are a lot of growing pains associated with making that jump and many companies have died while doing it. Rather, they want to make steady inroads at a growth rate they can handle at the same time preserving their image and distinctive niche. QUOTE If I walk into Best Buy and look around at all the computer, I would be lucky to see even one MAC. I think that if they focused on getting MAC out there to where everyone can plainly see them they would start getting better business. True, very true. At most stores there's this whole section entirely dedicated to PCs, but just a time sector for Macs. And obviously if Macs were advertised more and had more users, they probably would be able to lower the price. Although the problem currently is that most average users currently use the PC, and unless they had some really compelling reason to switch, they probably aren't going to do it. So unless Apple can come up with some nice reasons....not many users will actually be motivated to change. (People dislike change, right? )Once upon a time when I was in elementary and middle school I used Macs--iBooks and iMacs, and eMacs. I didn't really have a huge preference for Macs, mainly because at home I used a PC and thus was more used to a PC. Currently I have no intention of switching to a Mac, as I'm perfectly happy with the PC I have.
One thing that definately has kept most people from switching is the lack of variety and marketing of MACS.
If I walk into Best Buy and look around at all the computer, I would be lucky to see even one MAC. I think that if they focused on getting MAC out there to where everyone can plainly see them they would start getting better business.
remember, after Apple swapped their machine to the crappier Intel Core Duo, you can now run Windows XP side-by-side with MacOS X.
I'm still thinking, wtf was Apple thinking to stop using the PowerPC chips? They are better than the x86 based chips anyways. xboxrulz
I think the main issue I have with switching to MAC is the cost and availability of software. Not only is the machine more expensive, all the software associated is also more expensive. There are less freeware out there for MAC than for PCs. The truth is I started out with MAC when PC wasn’t even around, although I loved it, I found a cheaper and more convenient alternative.
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