xtron
Mar 5 2005, 12:01 PM
| | So ... i want to learn some more ...
The other day i started to lean HTML and contrar to popular beleave it was FUN..
Now i want to learn php and some basic programing.. i really need some good and concise material ... cause i don't have the time to waist  it would be perfect to get some good tutorials either on this topic or on other sites.
Thx
I moved it here from the tutorial section, it's not a tutorial, maybe it could have gone in the programming section! |
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rkage
Mar 5 2005, 08:39 PM
Well first of all make sure the HTML you know is Standards Complient otherwise, when new versions of browsers come out, your site may no longer work properly and you will have to relearn the proper syntax all over again and your old habits will force you to do things you shouldn't do. For that I'd recommend www.htmldog.com which also deals with CSS which is very handy to learn. For PHP I would recommend an online book found at www.hudzilla.org/phpbook/ I learnt everything I know about PHP from there and the author takes you through it in a simple, easy to understand fashion. I'd advise you to do examples after each chapter and really work on it until it sticks in.
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sourceanime
Mar 5 2005, 10:13 PM
i think you better learn from other programs like dream weaver or front page that the code is already there so is easy to build websites 
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ChronicLoser
Mar 6 2005, 07:46 AM
some basic programming? Truthfully, I'd suggest using something like Java or C++ for a first programming language. Once you learn either one, stuff like php will be simple with the help of http://www.php.net  hope I helped
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moonwitch
Mar 6 2005, 01:15 PM
QUOTE(sourceanime @ Mar 6 2005, 12:13 AM) i think you better learn from other programs like dream weaver or front page that the code is already there so is easy to build websites I always firstly learned the languages myself, before I used editors like that. (Ok, I never used Frontpage but this once, and I really disliked it - haven't even looked at it since then). I mean, if you're going to use a WYSIWYG editor, you don't really learn the code behind it. And yes, I will admit freely, I do not know any php other than <?php echo('hello world')> or something LOL (I know this is wrong, I am going by memory  ) rkage, I went to that site with the phpbook, I love it, thank you. You've just provided me with something really neat, so I may end up actually learning php
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rkage
Mar 7 2005, 06:17 PM
QUOTE(moonwitch @ Mar 6 2005, 01:15 PM) rkage, I went to that site with the phpbook, I love it, thank you. You've just provided me with something really neat, so I may end up actually learning php Yeh the book is great and I would recommend it to anyone who wants to learn some PHP. I would suggest that you try every example listed, then try editing the scripts so it does the same thing only with different variables, then try building the script from scratch and you'll be able to write advanced scripts in a month. Don't just skim read it or it won't sink in, take the time and it will pay off! There are some good message board and poll tutes in there as well but don't be skipping to them, or it will be a waste of time. However, if you learn a loop function for example and then see how it works in a real life example, such as a message board, then that is beneficial. Anyway, I'm glad I could be of assistance. If you've any problems with PHP, just PM me 
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moonwitch
Mar 8 2005, 12:36 PM
QUOTE(rkage @ Mar 7 2005, 08:17 PM) Yeh the book is great and I would recommend it to anyone who wants to learn some PHP. I would suggest that you try every example listed, then try editing the scripts so it does the same thing only with different variables, then try building the script from scratch and you'll be able to write advanced scripts in a month. Don't just skim read it or it won't sink in, take the time and it will pay off! There are some good message board and poll tutes in there as well but don't be skipping to them, or it will be a waste of time. However, if you learn a loop function for example and then see how it works in a real life example, such as a message board, then that is beneficial. Anyway, I'm glad I could be of assistance. If you've any problems with PHP, just PM me You may end up hating me , but remember you offered LOL. No, I actually always wanted to learn php, but just never had the ability to. I mean why would one learn a programming/web language if you can't show it, if it only sits on your own computer, on which you can not run a webserver other then to test pages. Until now of course, I do have the space and database to work with php. (thank you OpaQue!!!!!) I just felt that sites written in php look better and are easier to maintain, which is what most designers look for. Who wants to create a huge website in static text?? I did try to achieve a similar effect with Flash, but I got stuck. I tried to use a listbox component as small menu with links, which would load external text files (with externall css styles ) into a text area. I got it to load ONE txt file into the text area, but couldn't get the listbox links to work. So I stopped the project for a while to prevent myself from trashing the puter LOL Now I am hoping I can get similar lay-outs with php
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kraizii88z
Mar 9 2005, 11:26 AM
www.hudzilla.org/phpbook/
Thank-you rkage,
it's a great resource for learning php. it think i'll actually use it ..i've wanted to learn php for a while now ..i can learn it with this! ~~
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hihihihi88
Mar 17 2005, 03:08 PM
QUOTE(sourceanime @ Mar 6 2005, 06:13 AM) i think you better learn from other programs like dream weaver or front page that the code is already there so is easy to build websites I agree with you , I prefer Dreamwaever , it is easy to build a profressional web site . If you encounter some difficulties first can help . Then you hard to overcome you can post here I must help you
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Elysithea
Mar 22 2005, 05:26 PM
Thanks rkage, I agree... this is really helpful. oh btw, I'm new here! Hi, lol. I used to have a site that supported php/mysql, but I didn't have a clue as to how it worked. I always wanted to learn php but could never get through some of the tutorials I've found on the net. Even my cousin (who is a programmer) tried to help me, but I was still clueless. Maybe I was just too stupid that day, lol. However, I did find a few other places on the web that had tutorials on php: http://www.w3schools.com/php/default.asp (looking at this one now, although it isn't as great as the one rkage gave) QUOTE I prefer Dreamwaever , it is easy to build a profressional web site . I suppose this should be in the Software section, but I have problems with Dreamweaver. Maybe it's my PC or something, but it keeps crashing. I just use notepad or a word processor to type my code because I have problems with WYSIWYG editors. They always mangle my code. Eh, to each his or her own. Anyways, good luck xtron with your site!
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