pixelsmack
Jan 24 2005, 01:47 PM
| | Does anyone have any advice regarding using virtual machines, i know of VMware however have never used it and i know there is a M$ one which i have never used either (i don't even know what that is called). Can someone please reccomend one for use in windows XP to install windows server 2003 on please. |
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qwijibow
Jan 24 2005, 05:51 PM
QUOTE(pixelsmack @ Jan 24 2005, 02:47 PM) Does anyone have any advice regarding using virtual machines, i know of VMware however have never used it and i know there is a M$ one which i have never used either (i don't even know what that is called). Can someone please reccomend one for use in windows XP to install windows server 2003 on please. you need Vmware for windows. But wouldnt you be far better of Dual Booting ? cheaper, and better performace than VirtualPC.
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pixelsmack
Jan 24 2005, 06:03 PM
yeah, it would probably be easier to dual boot. i hadn't thought of that!
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gentoo
Jan 24 2005, 08:18 PM
I use bochs to debug my program. But it is too slow to install windows with bochs for common user. If you do not want to pay for it ,qemu(GPL-2 LGPL-2.1) will probably be a good selection. http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/qemu/
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wanhafizi
Jan 25 2005, 03:27 AM
QUOTE(qwijibow @ Jan 25 2005, 01:51 AM) you need Vmware for windows. But wouldnt you be far better of Dual Booting ? cheaper, and better performace than VirtualPC. if you r going to stick to the installed OS, then Dual Booting is fine. But if you are going to try many OS, then i'll suggest that you use Vmware. why? 1. has networking support to the host pc and its LAN (if avaliable) 2. the installed OS can be transfered anywhere!. transferring OS is just the same as copying ordinary files!. 3. no need for re-partitioning! but, you must also know that using a simulator like Vmware will cause performance drop to the OS.
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qwijibow
Jan 25 2005, 04:38 PM
QUOTE 2. the installed OS can be transfered anywhere!. transferring OS is just the same as copying ordinary files!. bad idea. might work for windows, but will cause havok with proper OS's if not done correctly. make sure you coont do somthing stupid like copy virtual folders. make sure you preserve permissions. make sure to reset driver configureation, or remove all driver configuration and enable coldplug.
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wanhafizi
Jan 25 2005, 05:17 PM
QUOTE(qwijibow @ Jan 26 2005, 12:38 AM) bad idea. might work for windows, but will cause havok with proper OS's if not done correctly. make sure you coont do somthing stupid like copy virtual folders. make sure you preserve permissions. make sure to reset driver configureation, or remove all driver configuration and enable coldplug. i dont understand. please give more details for these lines... QUOTE make sure you coont do somthing stupid like copy virtual folders. QUOTE make sure you preserve permissions. QUOTE make sure to reset driver configureation, or remove all driver configuration and enable coldplug.
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qwijibow
Jan 25 2005, 09:40 PM
what im saying is... By Default, the copy command does not preserve permissions, and special setting like SUID. same with Tar. Also, if you backup folders like /dev/ or /proc or /sys/ you might get some very strange results ! Also, driver settings. it just maks it abad idea to install an OS on virtualPC, and move ot onto a real root raprtiton and epect it to works.
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wanhafizi
Jan 26 2005, 02:10 AM
QUOTE(qwijibow @ Jan 26 2005, 05:40 AM) what im saying is... By Default, the copy command does not preserve permissions, and special setting like SUID. same with Tar. Also, if you backup folders like /dev/ or /proc or /sys/ you might get some very strange results ! Also, driver settings. it just maks it abad idea to install an OS on virtualPC, and move ot onto a real root raprtiton and epect it to works. LOL! Clearly, you never used VMWARE before. althought, your posts contains new things for me and i apprichiate that... thank you, you are so informative and experienced. but you nvr tried Vmware.for more info about vmware, goto: http://www.vmware.com/i believe, it supports winNT family and linux. anyway, what i mean is that the installed OS can be copied to other machine and re-implement it at other host as another virtual machine, not to a new partition. sometimes, it is useful, for example, you want to backup the OS incase the OS you are using now might get ruin, or your friend also wanted the same OS into his Vmware without having to go through the OS installation process. ps: i m sory, my english is not very good, i hope you can understand me
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clarkent
May 4 2005, 11:49 PM
gfu
Jun 22 2005, 01:10 PM
vmware is most common one. but VirtualPC is much easier to use la..
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Artluo100
Jun 21 2005, 02:36 PM
I think dual booting is the way to go. I mean it's much faster and better than VMWare. I don't know, I just had bad experiences using VMWare. If you have a fast computer and a lot of hardrive space and ram then I guess you can do VMWare. I guess it wasn't fast enough for my needs.
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Winchester
Jun 10 2005, 12:41 AM
QUOTE(qwijibow @ Jan 25 2005, 11:38 AM) bad idea. might work for windows, but will cause havok with proper OS's if not done correctly. make sure you coont do somthing stupid like copy virtual folders. make sure you preserve permissions. make sure to reset driver configureation, or remove all driver configuration and enable coldplug. LOL... Proper OS's... Do you think that if the OS's that you're referring to as "Proper" has problems with that, then just maybe they not really "Proper" at all??
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