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Nothing is Annonymous Truely Annonymous Internet There is no such thing as completely annonymous. Even Tor, which is a great idea cannot be. All of the Tor servers are run by volunteers around the world. They have no idea who these people are. They could be hackers data mining your data or they could be government agencies looking at what you think is secure data. Since you don't know who is transporting your data and who owns the server where your data emerges unencrypted you know nothing abou...
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Truely Annonymous Internet - None of that Proxy rubbish!

qwijibow
The problem with Proxy servers....

1) they usually only work with http, getting one to work with MSN messenger is neer impossable !
2) although they stop the site you are browsing from knowing who you are, your Internet service provider still knows exactly what you are doing.
3) i hate proxies.

What if....
What if you first ran a local filter proxie, it doesnt do anything major, it just scrubbs any identifying info from your web traffic, things like browser identification, cookies, revelaing DNS info.

then this proxie connected to anouther local service.
this local service encrypted all your traffic, and sent it out to anouther computer somwhere in the world, then re-encrypts it, and sends to a different node.

your traffic bounces around these random nodes, being encrypted, and forwarded a few times, then after serveral bounces, the final node de-crypted the traffic, and sent it to its true destination.

All your Internet Serive Provider knows, is they you sent unknown data (encrypted) on an unknown port, to an unknown random server.

And the end server you connect to , only knows the very last node that the data canme from.
as far as the website, chat server, IRC server, MSN messanger server, EVEN GAME SERVER like Unreat tournament or counterstrike.. all these serbver know about the connection, is an IP address, or a random encrypting node.

it would be completely impossable for anyone, at any node, at the Internet servidce proider, or at the end server to know where or who you are... only the end server, and end node knows what the origonal message was..

but the message was re-encrypted at each node, and the path of nodes the data took is completely random.

This i total 100% annonymous web use. (provided you dont give any personal data out... dont use email addresses you created non-annonymously etc etc.

well guess what... this actually exists !!!
and how much does this amasing service cost ???

NOTHING!

its completely FREE, and best of all OPEN SOURCE !!!!

(and there's even a windows version)

there are currently 100 encryptig nodes world wide, and as this progect was just slashdotted, we can expect the number of volenteer nodes to increace !

Does anyone still doubt open source innovation ???

go get it here !!! http://tor.eff.org/

 

 

 


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qwijibow
UPDATE !

works like a charm, and easy to set-up.

in gentoo linux, i just opened up a terminal...
emerge tor

and it was done, then configure my web browsers, and other internet applications to use a socks5 proxy at 127.0.0.1:9050.

i went to whatsMyUIp.com

first i was in Japan, revisited the site, and i was reported to be in America, an then Sweden.

And the whole thing is lightning fast ! i can barely tell the difference between normal web surfing !

this ROCKS !

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Giniu
That's great biggrin.gif

amazing tool... where did you diged it out? smile.gif

this would work with any connection, right? (ADSL, Dial-up, Broadband and so on?)

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qwijibow
Any application that can be configured to use a SOCKS proxy (which is almost anything)

It works with any connection, its lightning fast on my 600kbps broadband, but ive no idea how it would perform on dial-up.

its pretty cool, every different site i visit reports me as having a completely different IP,

at the top right of each of my posts, look at my reported IP address

EDIT: just remembered, only MODS can do that tongue.gif

my first post is my real Ip address, reported as 62.254.0.X (nottingham england)
my second posts IP is reported as 140.247.62.121 which is Harvard University in America !!!
my third post is 82.94.251.206 (Amsterdam in Holland)

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signatureimage
Just posting to check what my Signature Image PHP will generate..... wink.gif

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qwijibow
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You are 24.20.70.130 at comcast.net

bash-2.05b$ whois 24.20.70.130
Comcast Cable Communications, IP Services EASTERNSHORE-1 (NET-24-16-0-0-1)
24.16.0.0 - 24.23.255.255
Comcast Cable Communications OREGON-7 (NET-24-20-0-0-1)
24.20.0.0 - 24.21.255.255

# ARIN WHOIS database, last updated 2005-05-21 19:10
# Enter ? for additional hints on searching ARIN's WHOIS database.
[code]

some whois reports are better than others.

anyways, totally wrong smile.gif

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jcguy
Why would you want to be able to surf truely anonymously on the Internet? If one isn't doing anything illegal like trying to hack into servers etc, then i think it's fine to surf not-so-anonymously. Are there reasons to surf anonymously? Privacy reasons?

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qwijibow
I tried it out because its just plain cool !

This software also allows you to publish legal material completely annonymously.

But yeah, its all about privacy.

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Giniu
Yeah... also when you live in some countries you can be discriminated... for example pay-for-search-engine (Omega search) is well known to not work from Poland - you get only: "you are connecting from unsuported country" - they are blocking IP numbers from Poland (don't know why) - I use account just like others - so they shouldn't do what they do. So - things like this would allow me and others from "country black list???" (why?) use some service that normalny are blocked. And it is legal (I think) as long as you are doing legal things... so why not use it and get more secuirity?

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little0run
Wow, this program is cool how did you manage to find it? I think I might use this from now on, it's very nice.

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iGuest
Nothing is Annonymous
Truely Annonymous Internet

There is no such thing as completely annonymous. Even Tor, which is a great idea cannot be. All of the Tor servers are run by volunteers around the world. They have no idea who these people are. They could be hackers data mining your data or they could be government agencies looking at what you think is secure data. Since you don't know who is transporting your data and who owns the server where your data emerges unencrypted you know nothing about the security of the data.

Your ISP may not know what you are doing someone somewhere does. This is true for any service of this type. Anyone who tries to sell you VPN or Proxy services claiming it is completely annonymous is a liar.

-reply by Steve

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iGuest
anonymous surfing
Truely Annonymous Internet

VPN is better way to stay anonymously then other web based solutions

vpnprivacy.Com/anonymous-surfing.Html

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Slngz
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Why would you want to be able to surf truely anonymously on the Internet? If one isn't doing anything illegal like trying to hack into servers etc, then i think it's fine to surf not-so-anonymously. Are there reasons to surf anonymously? Privacy reasons?


One would have a point tongue.gif Althought im sure we have all downloaded content in the past we should have paid 4 etc tongue.gif

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qwijibow
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Hmm, after further looking into the matter the tor documentations say that most web browsers, and other programs that can be enabled to use a proxy tend to leak dns information.


Thats why it recomends (and sets up by default on gentoo) you use tsocks with tor to remove dns info, and other possable identifying info leaked by browsers.

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spacewaste
Hmm, after further looking into the matter the tor documentations say that most web browsers, and other programs that can be enabled to use a proxy tend to leak dns information.

Tor advises all users who seak truely annonymous internet to use http://prioxy.org

Also, people said that they didn't really notice much of a speed decrease...But I'm on a 1.5mps connection....shared through my network, which is only of 2-3computers...in which most are inactive, and I noticed a real slow down in surf speed.

Still a good program nontheless though, but they really expect you to read the manual.

-Enjoy.

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