Shader 3.0 On Shader 2.1 Board? - Shader

Hi at all! I have got the following question about my graphic-card: In my current system, there is a Powercolor Radeon 9800 XT (265MB Ram) installed. You know... this card supports the shader 2.1 model from ATI. And now my question: Is it possible to install an emulator or an emulation graphics driver which emulates the shader 3.0 model... of corse in a "soft" (=software emulated) way? Some time ago there was such a emulator for Matrox graphic boards... these boards (so far as i know) only supported DirectX an no OpenGL. With a special driver, OpenGL was emulated in the CPU and (slow) gaming in an OpenGL environment was possible... Thanks for your time & Greetings from Austria Harry1984

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Mhhh... is there really nothing wich could be done to solve the
problem of the Shaders.

Maybe I search through the internet again to find some hints...

Keep looking :-)

Greetings from Austria
Harry

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Ok well was searching for this thread, i have a NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 440 I am not that well into tweaking or graphics, but recently while playing games like Battlefield 2, NFS: Most Wanted, Blood Rayne etc I have been getting frequent errors, as in they dont start at all or they just go blank with a scrambled screen, or as in the case of Most Wanted, the graphics hang while game play.

Battlefield 2 needs Pixel Shader 2.0 i suppose ? how do i get it working on my card above ? .. any leads ?

Regards
Dhanesh ..

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Things they could do
Shader 3.0 On Shader 2.1 Board?

They should talk to Intel. I hear they have no problems running the shaders with there on-board GFX. Heh the shader and bf2

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Umm... problem is that you're going to have a lot of artifacts and slow frame rates if you do that. Many cheap cards now do Direct X 10 and have Shader Model 4.0 for under $100.



You need a new card, even playing America's Army on that card shows many graphical corruptions. My brother used to have that card and man, it wasn't funny watching him lag ... until he gets shot and watch how ridiculously died because of the lag.

Anyways, I gave him my old NVIDIA GeForce 6600, so much better for him now. He can play Battlefield 2142 no problem.

I currently have a Sapphire Radeon 3650 512MB DDR2 PCIe x16 and it works wonders for less than $100. (tax not incl.)

xboxrulz

 

 

 

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Shader 3.0 emulation
Shader 3.0 On Shader 2.1 Board?

Replying to Harry1984a

As for the answer of your question I am telling you that there is a rasterizer in directx only for developers to test for continuing the development caller refference rasterizer. That user software emulation for displaying output. But now-a-days it is very necessary to have a highly performanced graphics card to develop. And this rasterizer gives a low performance and can not be distributed for many reason. Such as it's frame rate is very low to continue. It's for another purpose. And I think you want to play games via emulation. You will not be able to do that. I am ensuring you it is imposible. You are saying that there is an emulation in Matrox graphic boards for opengl. That fully different. If our graphics card can support directx then we can emulate opengl. But not the same for the shaders or extentions. And none can emulate directx 10.1 via opengl.

OK. Good bye and good luck.
I am a Shader Programmer of eYe Interactive.

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pixel shader 3 emulator
Shader 3.0 On Shader 2.1 Board?

You could try 3D Analyzer (just google for it),I think the option "emulate pixel shader caps" is what you need, it emulatets v3 on boards that support v2.

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It is unlikely you will be able to emulate Shader Model 3.0 on a graphics card that supports only Shader Model 2.1 .

Unfortunately once, I was in the same situation as you, when I had bought the game Rainbow Six Vegas to play on my computer, only to find out after installation that the game required Shader Model 3.0 to run. At the time, I had a Nvidia GeForce FX5600 which only supported Shader Model 2.x, so the game was incompatible with the hardware and resulted in a blank screen when the game was started. Fortunately, for me, I got a new computer in the last 6 months with a graphics card that supported Shader Model 4.0, which should allow the card to be used for future games.

In your situation, I suggest you may want to purchase a new low to mid-end graphics card that does support Shader Model 3.0 . But if most the system components in your computer are years old, you are better off upgrading and buying a new computer, rather than upgrading the graphics card.

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Patch for pixel shader v2 to 3
Shader 3.0 On Shader 2.1 Board?

Hi, all I have been hacking the GPU hardware and now I have found a way to make pixel shader v3 games work on pixel shader v2.

Wanna download it,beware it has many ,many artifects ( in alpha ver)

Games tested:

Grand Theft Auto Iv

Only supports: ATI Radion x600 (256-512mb ram)

www.Pxlix.M8.Com

-reply by Wordog

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Umm... Problem is that you're going to have a lot of artifacts and slow Frame rates if you do that. Many cheap cards now do Direct X 10 and Have Shader Model 4.0 for under $100.

 Problem with that is, most newer cards are going to require a PCI-Express slot on your mobo.  Not sure how difficult it is to get a halfway decent upgrade for AGP to run games that utilize Shader 3.0+, but if you have have a AGP mobo, your not only looking at $100+ for a GPU, your looking at a new mobo which can run about 150 bucks for a mid range board and a new CPU which can run about the same if your looking at a mid range Quad or even Dual Core.  There might also be the possiblity that you'll need new RAM, so how about another 40-80 bucks?  New GPU might also require more power than you have, so throw in a 600+ watt PSU.  If the PSU is too beefy for your case, guess what?  Quality case gonna run you atleast $100 by itself, probably more if you need a case to hold the typical PSU that is made for newer rigs (1000+ watts).

-reply by David

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