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nice stuff, I mite try OS X later.xboxrulz
The reason that MacOSX is more stable is it better coders working on it who fixed bugs before release, and the reason it has fewer viruses is not because it has fewer holes, but virus writers write for the largest market, which is still windows. The X86 version will also soon become an official release because Apple computers are now being built with Intel chips. However, MacOS will not install on these X86 machines unless it detectes other apple hardware.
~Viz
Chances are, in the final release the Apple computers will use open firmware and other tech only found in Apple computers, breaking compatibility with prior x86 architextures. You could still install windows on such machines, with the right drivers, but Apple will make sure that the Mac OS will demand these features in order to install/run, thus making it impossible to install OSX on non-apple hardware.
Probably old news to the Mac users on here (it is to me), to catch up on recent events, OS X has been successfully installed on an old Sony Vaio laptop running on a Pentium M 1.0ghz. Supposedly it only took the guy 12 hours to figure out how to do this, and after looking at his steps, it's quite a simple process. Looks like Apple will need to either figure out how to change their DRM, or simply acknowledge the fact that if they try to make something hack proof, there'll always be a better hacker. And yes, I use the term hacker loosely, as this is more of a kracking job than hacking.
Nothing new - it's being possible to run Mac/Darwin on a X86 for years, using PearPC.
CompJoe, there is a difference between running an OS on an x86 and running an OS on an emulated Mac on an x86. PearPC runs MacOSX on a Mac that is emulated on an x86, so all instructions go to Pear and are deciphered into x86 Instructions first. What these guys did, and people are hoping to be able to do, is actually install MacOS as the only operating system on the computer.
~Viz
Yea PearPC runs macOSX at a mere percentage of the speed it should on the hardware. The new x86 versions of OSX are assumedly going to run at full speed for the hardware they are on. Which should be interesting indeed.
I can't wait to see how it turns out, but I hope its not hard to crack it so I can havea system running windows, linux, and osx  tri-boot AWAY!
Actually, there has been an x86 version of OSX for a while, Apple created it to plan for the Intel deal. It runs beautifully. However, it has hard coded into the OS a requirement both for installation and execution that almost all pieces of hardware be Apple hardware or Apple sold hardware, like harddrives, graphics cards, soundcards, and perhaps even monitors.
~Viz
yea I assumed they would do that... but I'm sure some creative coders will "assist" those not willing to shell out the cash for apple hardware in letting it work on there own systems. Maybe not but heres hopin
QUOTE(Jeigh @ Aug 15 2005, 08:45 AM) yea I assumed they would do that... but I'm sure some creative coders will "assist" those not willing to shell out the cash for apple hardware in letting it work on there own systems. Maybe not but heres hopin  If you read my post up above, people have cracked the hardware protection requirement that OS X uses. It's a relatively easy set of steps to complete, provided that you have a PC that meets the general requirements. I'm just wondering now if it'll boot on non-Intel machines, or if OS X specifically needs a Pentium chipset. Latest Entries
now all my tiger system is ok,network,sound, and even the g5 app (iWork 2005) can run the machine.
my hardware is p4 2.4 without sse3,only sse2. anway, the screen refresh rate is low. I think it doest not support my vedio card, Nvidia 6600GT AGP version. greate site http://www.concretesurf.co.nz/osx86/ QUOTE(vizskywalker @ Aug 15 2005, 11:39 AM) Unimatrix, am I to understand you work for Apple? Cool. As far as the virus writers go, they didn't mind when Apple used an IBM chip that Intel and AMD owners couldn't use the software, it made sense, porting issues. What they object to is limiting it to AMDs and Intels with only certain other hardware. And believe it or not, most viruses that concern people, not the overly large ones but the minor ones like trojans, are written for piddly reasons like that. ~Viz I don't work for Apple. I work for a video production company technically as a consultant. They basically pay me to keep up on the latest and greatest Mac stuff and help develop some in house software. We have 1 full time techie and 2 software programmers then me in a company of approx. 25 full-time regular employees. We have the development boxes to test our in-house applications. I think less than 50 lines of code had to be changed for things to compile and work on the X86 version. I know several others in the Mac development community. These people that are complaining about Apple not letting them run OSX on whater joe user wants I think is going to be surprised when the line gets shifted over.
yea...I just got it installed and run it in my P4 2.4GB with Nvidia 6600GT vedio card natively
it works great... network, sound etc are all work. P.S duble boot with winxp
Unimatrix, am I to understand you work for Apple? Cool. As far as the virus writers go, they didn't mind when Apple used an IBM chip that Intel and AMD owners couldn't use the software, it made sense, porting issues. What they object to is limiting it to AMDs and Intels with only certain other hardware. And believe it or not, most viruses that concern people, not the overly large ones but the minor ones like trojans, are written for piddly reasons like that.
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