l337 Nurse Pedestrian
Feb 1 2005, 04:29 PM
I was on this one place with some people I know, until these freaks came in and started dissing gays, and calling them fags and animals and stuff. I was so disgusted  , is there really anything wrong with being gay? What do you think? I don't think there is anything wrong with being gay. It's someone choice, and America/or other country hasn't the right to take that away from people (religon pending). I'm not gay my self, but I wish people wouldn't be so ignorant and stupid about it. They are people too. And if it's not affecting you, why go after them? And plus, how does that make them a bad person? Yes, somepeople DO think the are bad persons, obviously, since all this is on the news and everything, and all these billboards keep popping that say 'Ex-Gays can play it straight' or something rediculous like that. Why people are homosexual? I don't know, I don't see anything attractive in the same gender. What do you think of being gay? Hmm, I think this should be in the Debate section.. sorrymoved to the debate section 
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OpaQue
Feb 1 2005, 04:55 PM
First I dont want this topic to invite spam. Second, People answering this thread, please be broad minded and don't make childish comments. Okay, I am putting my reply. Forget that I m the administrator and in no way I want to blame anyone or express hatred. It is just my views. Also, the thoughts below, does not include people who are gay because of hormonal imbalances. I feel Gay people are Shy guys who cannot face girls and they dont have guts to face them. The most wierd thing I feel is Gay marriages. At some time, I feel pity on the human race and the amount of things man has been doing against nature. Ever seen any other species behave in this way. Obviously the answer is no. Nature has made man and women to be together. Sex is a part of life, Homosex is not.
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wanhafizi
Feb 1 2005, 05:00 PM
i dono man. most of religion despise gays. but the truth is, some ppl need some guidance to do the right things. well, maybe homosexuality will not enable you to have child, than, maybe one day human will come to the brink of extinction because of these acts. you know something else? i think gayness is contagious. i've seen it spreeding in schools, universities, everywhere! that's something to be scared off.
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l337 Nurse Pedestrian
Feb 1 2005, 05:03 PM
I think the only reason it's spreading is because they are week enough to fall into it/were homo sexual in the beginning/are kidding theirselves. and what about all those athiests out there? And not all religons ban gay.
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wanhafizi
Feb 1 2005, 05:18 PM
QUOTE (l337 Nurse Pedestrian @ Feb 2 2005, 01:03 AM) I think the only reason it's spreading is because they are week enough to fall into it/were homo sexual in the beginning/are kidding theirselves. the way i think about it: babies sometimes prone to get flu. why? because their antibody is still weak. so should we blame the baby? i dono about athiest. i think they r cool with that...
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l337 Nurse Pedestrian
Feb 1 2005, 05:27 PM
They wouldn't become gay because their friends do it. If they just start being gay, then they are week enough to fall into it/were homo sexual in the beginning/are kidding theirselves. Because if it's something you really wanted to do, you'd be gay along time ago. Just like being sick. You don't pick the grem, the germ picks you.
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wanhafizi
Feb 1 2005, 06:24 PM
well, another alternative: eliminate the bad germs, or if possible, change the germs to nice germs.  juz kiddin. but it is a good point to ponder.
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MajesticTreeFrog
Feb 1 2005, 08:05 PM
QUOTE (OpaQue @ Feb 1 2005, 12:55 PM) Ever seen any other species behave in this way. Obviously the answer is no. Nature has made man and women to be together. Sex is a part of life, Homosex is not. Actually, homosexual behavior does occur in nature. Not only that, but many other things as well. http://blue.butler.edu/~bwoodruf/alliance/...osexanimals.htmMy understanding is that homosexuality, for males, is very genetic in nature. It is CERTAINLY not because they are shy and cannot face women. My friends who are gay don't even have interest in women, it is not that they find them 'challenging' or 'frightening'. In fact, many of them have had sexual encounters with women, in order to stay in the closet earlier in life (and knowing those women, I understand they are rather good lovers to boot). oh, and here is an article by national geographic. http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/20..._gayanimal.htmlNor is homosexuality a 'disease', caused by germs or any such thing. Nor is it 'catchable' the way a disease/virus is. Homosexuality exists on a continuum, with absolute heterosexuality on one end, and absolute homosexuality on the other. Like any range, there are many spots in between. Some people 'experiment' and have tried same-sex behavior. Hetero/homosexuality appears to be less hard wired (as in, more in-between), for women than for males, for apparently genetic reasons (as in some of the stronger genes involved are on the Y chromosome).
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l337 Nurse Pedestrian
Feb 1 2005, 09:08 PM
QUOTE Nor is homosexuality a 'disease', caused by germs or any such thing. Nor is it 'catchable' the way a disease/virus is. Exactly QUOTE My understanding is that homosexuality, for males, is very genetic in nature You gotta be kidding me. You ARE NOT born gay. THere's nothing in genetics that tell you if you are gay or not. No GG Gg gg or anything. You become gay, just like say, loving the girl next door. You're not born loving her. You have to see her first.
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MajesticTreeFrog
Feb 1 2005, 09:45 PM
QUOTE (l337 Nurse Pedestrian @ Feb 1 2005, 05:08 PM) Exactly You gotta be kidding me. You ARE NOT born gay. THere's nothing in genetics that tell you if you are gay or not. No GG Gg gg or anything. You become gay, just like say, loving the girl next door. You're not born loving her. You have to see her first. Actually, to a very great extent, you are. Or at least, you are born with homosexual tendencies. The strength of these tendencies is heavily influenced by genetics, and then by environmental factors. http://salmon.psy.plym.ac.uk/year1/psychob...e/genetics.htmlhttp://www-unix.oit.umass.edu/~kripston/ho...Biological.htmlTo be clear, there are both genetic and psychological aspects to homosexuality, in addition to possible environmental factors that may affect the expression of certian hormones at important developmental stages. What is clear, is that homosexuality is not a sudden 'choice' by those who are gay (or at least not for the vast, vast majority of them) What specific roles these factors play, and their relative strengths, is still unknown.
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iGuest
Jun 22 2009, 08:32 AM
To say that gays cannot get married because they cannot produce children is a flawed argument. In order for that to be valid, one would have to prevent the marriages of infertile couples, those that choose not to have children, and those too old to bare.
Those opposing same sex marriage: Have you ever asked a gay person WHY they want to get married? The answers they give may in fact surprise you. Did you know that regardless of how long a couple has been together, if something incompacitates one of the partners, that a hospital does not have to allow their partner to visit? A true story that may shock some of you follows.
There was a gay male couple that met in the 50's. Their name slips my mind but I will call them Bob and Tim for the sake of the story. The two men loved each other very deeply and build a life together. Bob purchased land and together they built what eventually became a very successful farm from the ground up which they each worked for 50+ years. These two even lived in a state where civil unions were legal, and had one themselves. Bob grew ill and passed away. He had a legal will that stated that the farm and everything on it was to go to his partner of 50+ years, Tim. Bob also had distant cousins that desired to own the farm and felt they were entitled to it and felt that this man Tim, had no right to it even though he himself had helped build the house and barns and had lived there for 50 years. These people, had never even met Bob. The cousins filed a legal challenge to the will and won. Tim who was still grieving for his lost love of 50 years, now found his whole life taken away. His livelyhood, his home, his love, were all gone. You may be saying to yourself that this would never happen. Well unfortunatly it did because despite what has been told to many, a civil union does not carry the same legal weight as a marriage and in most states when a blood relative challenges a will against a non-family member, the court must side with the blood relative.
The reason gays are fighting isnt because they want to take anything away from the straights, they want to have the ability to have a say in what becomes of their loved ones, visitation rights, property rights, etc. All of which are guarenteed by and protected by marriage. If civil unions held the same legal weight, then of course gays would be satisfied with them.
FYI-- If you get a domestic partnership/civil union performed in one state that recognises them, should you move to another state that also allows them, you must pay to have ANOTHER one done in your new state. Married couples only have to get married once.
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iGuest
May 4 2009, 01:53 AM
I don't really think gay marriage is a good thing because it was made that women and man come together and produce seed but, some people don't believe that way and in the united states I don't think they should have any thing to say about it because it is a free country and people have freedom to do whatever they want to do. But I don't think they should let same sex marry each other I mean people can like each other but they should not let same sex couples get married. Its just sick...Theres no one who can stop it but I wouldnt recommend that happen at any point
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Dalv87
May 28 2007, 02:32 PM
I'm not gay, but I don't care if people are. It's not like there's a shortage of people in the world, people not reproducing isn't going to doom mankind, it's people reproducing too much that will probably lead us to extinction. Every study I've ever seen shows that gay couples are as good at parenting as straight couples, so I'm find with gay adoption, and since gays pay the same taxes as everyone else they should get the same benefits. I would say they should make gay marriage legal, except I don't think the government should be involved in marriage at all, they should just give everyone equal civil unions and leave marriage to the churches.
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velma
Mar 23 2007, 12:22 PM
There are many creatures in the wild who have had homosexual tendencies like apes and cats and dogs that too under studied experiments, Unfortunately I had a pair of homo tom cats with me when I was a kid and the idea of gay marriage is not completely mad for they themselves would want a normal life of their own. It is not like that they chose to be gay but it happens genetically from the time that they are conceived. Again I say treat them like humans and not specimens of the lab. For they are not lab rats. I have to admit though that they are very brave to say that they are gay when others would not 
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Opethian
Apr 30 2006, 12:51 AM
The fact that being gay is a touchy subject. Let's face it, the whole world isn't ready to accept relationships between same sex, yet that is. A lot of people have some level of homophobia, and you can't really fault them for it, because they were raised to realize that X + Y = Z, and that X + X cannot be.
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