Google's World Domination!

salempc

Nov 27 2005, 09:58 PM

News here

Have you ever wondered? I am very afraid!!

Never got to notice that Google is slowly conquering the world until I read this article, it seems scary that their goal was to organize the world's information, I can translate it to something like controlling this information, do you think Google is turning into Micor$oft? I mean, both are big companies, seeking to dominate everything in a monopoly, having everyone using their systems, etc.

Now, I have been reading lately a lot of criticism on M$ and Sony, so what do you guys think about google?

qwijibow

Nov 27 2005, 11:09 PM

when i read this i thought it was a joke... (it is isnt it ?)

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it seems scary that their goal was to organize the world's information

Like a librarian who orders books in category and in alphabetical order?
Organising information will HELP people get information.
whats wrong with that !

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Signs of panic: When one of Microsoft's key operating system engineers defected to Google last year, Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer threw a chair across an office and vowed to kill Google.

sounds like the media trying to make news sound more important than it really is.
he didnt *defect*, he left his job at MS and took a new job at google.

To me, it looks like a wired reporter was having a slow news month and neeed to fill half a page.

salempc

Nov 27 2005, 11:24 PM

hahahahahahahah!!

Man, you made me laugh, but, you must be right

Anyway I began this feeling when I read the Google Space thread, now that is pretty useless propaganda isn't it?

Peace

Vyoma

Nov 28 2005, 01:24 AM

In one sense, yes, the Google is feared. But it is feared by its competitors in the field it moves.

As an end user, it is good for me. Competitors should be fearing each other. That would make it possible for a drive to serve better. And who profits from good service? End-users.

There are some services provided by Google that made them beat the other competitors atleast in terms of me as the sole end-user. Here are the services that I use from Google:

-Search Engine: There is no denying they are good at it. It was rare that I went to any other search engine like Yahoo or AskJeeves, even long back when I started to use internet.

-Friends gouping (Orkut): It is a good one, and I am connected to more of my friends there than Hi5 or something else.

-Email (GMail): This, in my opinion is one of the most cherished of the Google's services I use. I mean, it is simple, robust and clutter free - what can beat that?

-Marketing (AdSense and AdSearch): I have not been much of a fan about the link or banner exchanges and all the pay-for-click jargons. But these services from Google really made me think. I do not vouch for them yet, but I still have to try it out.

-Blogging (Blogster): I was not much of a guy who maintained a journal or diary. But Blogs, in perspective of Blogster made it much more easier, and I have started doing it. I do not know how long it will trudge.

I have a fair idea of the hiring criteria of Google and I have to tell that they have got a talented bunch working there.

Yes. We should fear, for Google may just dominate the world.

[Note: All information I provided here are my own opinion due to the experiences I have. I do not have exact proofs for the things I said, but I got a fair idea. So, do not rely on what I said. Go look for yourself.

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curare

Nov 28 2005, 03:13 AM

I quote from the Wired article that the topic starter mentioned:

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What if a search engine trolled not just every page on the Web, but every page in every book? Amazon.com tried it first, then Google said it would "make the full text of all the world's books searchable by anyone."
Who's threatened: Amazon, Microsoft, book publishers
Signs of panic: Against the interests of a legion of obscure writers, the Authors Guild sued Google. The Association of American Publishers, with more to fear, did the same. Microsoft and Yahoo! have joined a group that's creating its own book search service.
Reality check: Making every book searchable sends a clear signal that Google has the brawn to organize the world's information. But a vicious backlash could drown out that message.

Nobody needs to worry about Google Print, not even the authors. I searched passages from Shakespeare and it came up with the text I had searched for. Not the whole text, mind you, just a snipplet of medium length, maybe two pages. Below the original text the reason was given. For copyright reasons. Glad to hear that Google cares about the copyrights of a person dead some 300 or 400 years. Whereby it is not scientifcally established that he lived at all - it might have been a bunch of people who wrote "Shakespeare's" works.

This is just ridiculous. Google Print, in its current state, is worthless. WORTHLESS.

Admittedly, I enjoy using GMail and the search engine and I am sure they got a lot of brilliant people there.

Vyoma

Nov 28 2005, 03:25 AM

Yes curare, I have to agree with you in terms of the fact that Google cares about copyrights. It is just another part of the almost-good image they have.

What worries me though is that, they are a almost-perfect-good image. I mean, even if they are doing something hideous, and they are able to cover it up, then imagine what they are capable of.

I mean, they would be having a major impact and say on the lives in the future, where the future promises to be more cyber-intensive.

(This is just a speculation and not based on anyfacts).

twitch

Nov 28 2005, 05:21 AM

Google can and will conquer the industries based around information organisation. But, remember all companies that go to the top...must come down. And trust me, Google will fall. Probably by corruption, or having that many lawsuits against them.

Sarah81

Nov 28 2005, 12:45 PM

Google's got a great search engine. They're expanding, but keeping quality (the overwhelming majority of Gmail users love the service, for example). They aren't setting fire to Yahoo's offices or anything like that, so ... let them see how far they can go.

It seems like they're just trying to be the best-organized and most user-friendly product, which is pretty much what any business wants (especially internet-based companies).

ruben

Nov 28 2005, 12:56 PM

I don't begrudge their success to Google. They are a nice and innovative company with a good image. This normally occurs to small personal businesses, but they still mentioned to be a friendly company, that doesn't take itself to serious. (I haven't seen Microsoft making April Jokes or changing their logo on Christmas, etc.)
Well, maybe they will dominate the world one day and show their evil face, but I will happily bow in front of them and say: You tricked me good!
They don't have this urge to destroy everything in their way yet and I kinda like that about them, don't you?

kaputnik

Nov 28 2005, 03:53 PM

QUOTE(salempc @ Nov 28 2005, 04:54 AM)

hahahahahahahah!!

Man, you made me laugh, but, you must be right

Anyway I began this feeling when I read the Google Space thread, now that is pretty useless propaganda isn't it?

Peace

The Google Space thing seems like a bit of a good idea, because the mind learns best when it's not defending itself from the constant barrage of information - something visitors to the Google Space will not be expecting, nor will they receieve any learning in the Google space area as unwanted and put up a mental block. Since Google is already so very popular as a brand, visitors will experience natural curisoty while venturing into Google Space and be more receptive to inputs at the site than normally so.

Thus far, Google's model of providing its users with a free service, while placing keyword specific advertisement has worked well for both the users of Google as well as Google's commercial customers - the advertisers...

On the information front, let's look at an example - progress is defined mainly by the amount of information available to a civilization and it's ability to utilize it. Also, progress is directly linked to the amount of information that brings to light specific material that is sought at any given point in time. When man first created fire, the amount of knowledge required to be passed on from one generation to the next was limited to creating fire, hunting, cooking, gathering, and possibly some defence against nature and animals.. however, by the time humans hit the middle ages, we'd already gone onto recording information in a cohesive manner through printed and written mediums so as to enable ayone searching for specific material to have it available. This accelerated progress, and mental development, since, it is easier to develop at a faster pace if one does not have to invent fire from scratch and carry on from there on; if someone;s already discovered/ invented something, it is always best to take on from there - unless one's creating an entirely new technology - even then, in the modern world, there's enough information freely and commercially available to build apon and create something absolutely new.

The availability, accessability and structured seeking methods to gain information is in my view absolutely essential in the path of our development as a species. Especially since, in our modern (or maybe not so modern any more) day of computers and mobile communication, everyone is constantly creating information; which if structured pproperly, may be utilized by anyone at all - for the greater benefit.

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Arbitrary

Feb 10 2007, 03:58 AM

I do mind Google being everywhere. Competition is the driving force behind any amount of success that these companies have with their products. Without competition from other companies, Google wouldn't have any incentive to change and most likely wouldn't change as long as the money is still rolling in from their monopoly.

Without competition, Google could potentially turn into something similar to Microsoft with their lack of updates and slow service. As long as there are other companies still thriving and I have a choice of products, I'd be happy to see Google thriving as well. Having a choice, to me, is the most important thing. If I had one product (one essential product) of poor quality to choose from and I had to buy that product, then I end up in a dead end.

I agree with HiddenKenshin that societies thriving on information can cause numerous problems. Just because Google didn't share user information last time (and actually struck up a big case with the supreme court in our defense too) doesn't mean they won't do it next time. I would rather that 'next time' be prevented more than anything else. Breeches of privacy is simply not fun.

On the other hand, the title of this topic does sound a bit exaggerated. It seems far-fetched to say that Google may 'dominate the world'. However, breaking it down, Google has a small, itty bitty chance. Google is a search engine company. Therefore it has a high chance of dominating the search industry and then the computing industry (It pretty much already has in that respect. Unless, of course, you count China, where Baidu is the obvious winner in search. Heck, even I use Baidu when I search in Chinese. Habit.). As a relatively large company, it's sure to have some force in politics (it currently doesn't seem to do so well, but most large companies seem to have a force in politics). And it's this force in politics that leads to said 'world domination'. Not very likely, as companies will probably fall faster than your average presidential campaign, but the chance remains.

EDIT: On the other hand, if Google truly wished to be immoral, they could also just use whatever information they have on their hands about users and blackmail them. Said users might just decide to listen to what Google says and shut up.

But seriously, that has a virtually nil chance of happening. And Google is lacking something big to back themselves up: an army. Traditional, yes, but needed. Information can only go so far.

xboxrulz

Feb 8 2007, 02:57 AM

I seriously don't mind Google everywhere, they've offered great service, and haven't complained once. There's even a Google version of MySpace (but with way less features).

xboxrulz

J.J.

Feb 8 2007, 12:30 AM

I really don't think Google is taking over the world. It's definatly Yahoo we should be worried about. Google is cool, I just don't like Yahoo for some reason, can't seem to think why.

HiddenKenshin

Feb 5 2007, 06:53 PM

QUOTE(Sarah81 @ Apr 21 2006, 09:56 PM)

*gasp!* You mean somebody wants to organize all the information on the Internet so that we can find it quickly and easily? And for free? *feints*

Seriously though ... there are much bigger, far worse threats in the world than an Internet service that is slowly spreading to cover pretty much every possible base.

Agreed, but the consequences could be more grave than you'd expect. Especially with societies thriving on the information sharing technology of today. This forum being an example. It depends on how google wishes to preserve the information. I don't think it could, or should, index and control every bit of information on the web, but if they would attempt to grasp control of the Internet, they'd be able to manipulate one of the strongest weapons of today, information.

Sarah81

Apr 21 2006, 08:56 PM

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