Merovingian
Sep 2 2008, 09:03 AM
So, what does everyone think about googles' new web browser idea? http://www.google.com/googlebooks/chrome/http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2008/09/fre...on-browser.htmlWill anyone be getting the beta when it's released? Here is what one of my friends thinks of the project (from another forum). He has a BSc & MSc in computer science and information security (we're old uni mates). He usually knows his stuff when it comes to things like this. QUOTE I note that the article linked indicates Google will be using Apple's Webkit rendering engine, rather than Mozilla's Gecko engine. The article also states they'll be using elements of Firefox as well as WebKit, but I wonder what parts of Firefox they'll be using. They state they have developed their own JavaScript interpreter, though personally I think SquirrelFish, another one from the WebKit folks, is more than fast and capable enough. I really hope they're not using any Firefox UI elements, because frankly I despise the Firefox UI, especially on the Mac where Mozilla refuse to use the Apple unified window manager, Aqua, and hence Firefox looks completely out of place on the Mac desktop. I haven't looked at the specifics of this new browser, but one thing that does interest me is sandboxing of tabs. I usually have 5+ tabs or windows open at any one time and a browser crash on one of them takes them all out---a very frustrating experience. I'm interested to see what sort or resource hit there might be to this though, as obviously each tab would be less able to share application memory and thus use more exclusive memory. I'm not sure if this one feature will be enough to make my migrate from Safari though, especially given they'll be running the same renderer.
My opinion (for the interested) of the Webkit and SquirrelFish engines can be found here. He is also a BIG apple fan!
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toby
Sep 2 2008, 10:13 AM
Google using WebKit is probably the most half-assed thing they've done. Imo Presto (Opera) > webkit > *. Gecko and Trident aren't as far apart as ff users think.
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Quatrux
Sep 2 2008, 09:54 PM
Well, I first though they used their own engine, I didn't read anything on it, read the speed results with other browsers, thought oh, how cool, read further, so it just was webkit engine, I like webkit, so they just created a nice looking GUI for it on Windows, really great, it's much better to use it than Safari on Windows.. even thought I would have liked to see Swift browser using Webkit on Windows, but seems it won't happen or it will take a lot of time. In my opinion, because Chrome is very light, it is really great for most of users who just like to browse the Internet, simply as that, it's fast and looks good.  it's webkit, I really like that they didn't use gecko. 
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FirefoxRocks
Sep 2 2008, 10:37 PM
I really wish they have used Gecko, even with the minor bugs and stuff in it. WebKit isn't bad or anything, but I still prefer Gecko. I'm not in Windows right now so I can't try the software yet, but it looks really good. I was reading the online press conference thing and they introduce a lot of features that are similar to other browsers and an advanced JavaScript engine called V8. Hopefully this won't reduce Firefox/Safari market share by too much, and will help bring down IE.
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shotgun
Sep 3 2008, 12:34 AM
First Impressions: -Very quick to install and do not have to answer any questions in doing so. -The startup is extremely fast. -The interface is extremely simple, with the right and necessary to navigate sites. -The browser allows import your bookmarks, search engines, the key history from Firefox and Internet Explorer. -I visited nearly all Google services, Google Maps, YouTube, Gmail, etc… and have noticed an increase in speed as well. However, on several occasions we became stuck on Gmail. -By default, if you enter a search in the address bar, you Chrome strip results from Google, but you can change it to any other form. -The version for Mac OS X is not good(not yet ready). -It has a spellchecker very fast and like FireFox, you underlined in red with the words mistakes. Unfortunately you do not detect the language of writing. ------------- OS:Windows Vista Ultimate Sp1 MD:Asus P5N-E CPU:2.40GHz/Intel Quad Core Q6600 RAM:Corsair Dual Channel 4GB 800Mhz VC:XFX GeForce 9800 GTX/512MB
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FirefoxRocks
Sep 3 2008, 02:18 AM
What I noticed: - Quick installation; a bit concerned about Privacy Policy
- Startup is quite fast
- Interface too simple; took a while to find File and Tools menus
- Was not presented the option to import bookmarks and settings from Internet Explorer 8 or Opera 9; only Firefox
- Noticeably speed increase in GMail and several Wikipedia pages
- SVG <object>s are not displayed for some reason
Where is the Open command? Waiting for Linux version to be released! I'm using Windows Vista Home Premium SP1, Aero disabled with few software installed. I have a Intel Core 2 Duo processor/4GB RAM and it seems quite fast so far. I haven't tried opening tons of tabs yet though. I still haven't found the "Mozilla Prism" feature though, where the site is launched like an app. (e.g. GMail, Facebook, etc).
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xboxrulz
Sep 3 2008, 04:48 AM
I wish Webkit was used by more people because I think Webkit is one of the best rendering engine when it comes to speed. However, not a lot of websites are compatible with it unfortunately. xboxrulz
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skedad
Sep 3 2008, 07:18 AM
I am only able to do basic internet here at work, or else I would so be trying to install the new browser. Once I get a chance to get home and install, then I will have to put more on this posting. I am a huge fan of Firefox, but I also believe that if Google Chrome is the next best thing... then I am sure I will be trying it... I just think that Explorer was the way to go... probably at the time the only way... and then Firefox came along... Everything has to evolve, and I plan on trying the new Google browser. Good topic... at least I think so. Will get back to it when I can install and then I will critique. - skedad -
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xboxrulz
Sep 3 2008, 07:52 PM
I have since wrote a small quick review of the web browser: http://www.kwokinator.com/node/32Overall, I'm actually quite impressed with the browser. It's quick, responsive and the rendering engine is only giving me only a small amount of issues with TinyMCE's pop up window. Other than that there's really no problem. Although, I have to admit that I'm disappointed that they only released a Windows release and that the Mac and Linux release is not out yet. Once the Linux release comes out, I bet it's like the first "broad" release of a WebKit browser on the Linux platform since Konqueror doesn't count due to the fact that it still uses KHTML and not WebKit (understandable that WebKit's genesis came from KHTML, no real point having both rendering engine on the same machine). xboxrulz
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sparkx
Sep 3 2008, 11:47 PM
I’ll give it a try but you can't tell much with 10 minutes of messing around. I am looking for a long term browser not just a small thing that doesn't even load JavaScript. I use Opera and I like its features and speed, but I am always up for trying new things. The download was extremely fast but the installer has been initializing for a few minutes now... The screenshots look good and the very small size just adds to it. I just wish the installer would load already lol... Using Windows XP (That’s probably the problem) From what you have seen would you say it is better then Opera or should I just stick with what works? Sparkx
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empirebux
Oct 5 2008, 11:15 AM
Since yesterday, when I registered in this forum I devide to try a new Brownser Chrome , I thought we should not test the browser or Google.On the one hand, seemed interesting, now that Google has shown when the subject is excellent for web applications; secondly, is it is worth testing the first beta of a browser? But finally I came to the conclusion that we should try it, yes.It was what I did. When the launch of a web browser appears in news, something that is at least "curious", is happening! When you start Google Chrome for the first time, he explains on its system of "save" the sites more accessible for easy revisitação later; something inspired - not to say anything else - the Opera.This feature is really useful and the developers of Google Chrome did well to follow the good example of the Opera. Thx ... =)
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Jeigh
Oct 3 2008, 12:55 PM
Weird, I almost wish I had some of these issues just to see whats up. I like breaking test software lol But yea, personally it's been rock solid for me, there must be issues with version compatibilities between chrome/java/flash or something. As I mentioned, I'm running chrome on two different versions of windows, with two different versions of java and potentially different versions of flash (although thats less likely as both are probably the latest release) and have yet to see any problems that I wouldn't expect in firefox. Hopefully they iron it all out by the final release or even better just a new beta release. Oh, quick suggestion, I'm sure you likely have but make sure you have the most up-to-date release of chrome as that could help (In the "About Google Chrome" screen there is an auto update check/button in case you didn't know)
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FirefoxRocks
Oct 3 2008, 02:52 AM
Flash may be a factor, did you have any Java applets loaded at the time? Java literally suspends the entire browser on my Windows Vista. The whole browser stopped responding, every tab. It was until I killed a few chrome.exe processes in Windows Task Manager to close the tab with the Java applet.
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jjkeenan
Oct 3 2008, 12:32 AM
QUOTE(Jeigh @ Sep 30 2008, 08:03 PM)  That is very strange. I think I've had a single crash since I started using chrome, and I usually have about 20 tabs open with various sites using a wide range of technologies. I also have a lot of tabs open and it doesnt show problems with those. I have freshly formatted and updated Windows Installed in the system, so there should be no OS related concerns. It seems that it has eaten a lot of memory when using it with sites that has flash on it. It is always the pages with flash got some problems. I have the same problems with firefox before when it was ver 1.5.xx
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skedad
Oct 1 2008, 08:32 AM
QUOTE(xboxrulz @ Sep 29 2008, 07:51 PM) It's interesting that you say that Safari slowed down on you. Try to reset the browser. Also, note that Google Chrome uses the EXACT same engine Safari does.
I'm just waiting until they released a Mac and Linux version of the browser. Also, I'm waiting until they release the final version as well.
xboxrulz Well, I guess I didn't really realize the speed until I come into work here and use this Safari browser.... I would think any kind of browser I use on these computers and this network would be slower than usual. Sorry, it is very early here/ very late into the morning... and I was just rattling off the top of my head. I really don't seem to have any problems with Safari at home... So anything on this network would slow down.... - skedad -
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