Read Latest Entries..: (Post #45) by MajesticTreeFrog on Jul 17 2005, 04:55 AM. (Line Breaks Removed)
From what I understand, the email scanning is realtime. They don't have individualized records, as that would sort of defeat the usefullness of search. Instead, whenever you open an email, they can just search it for relevant keywords and deliver ads. In this way, they can be "not evil", and allow you privacy, while still putting up the ads they need to make money.... read more.
Thirty-One Privacy and Civil Liberties Organizations Urge Google to Suspend Gmail
The World Privacy Forum and 30 other privacy and civil liberties organizations have written a letter [inserted below] calling upon Google to suspend its Gmail service until the privacy issues are adequately addressed. The letter also calls upon Google to clarify its written information policies regarding data retention and data sharing among its business units.
The 31 organizations are voicing their concerns about Google’s plan to scan the text of all incoming messages for the purposes of ad placement, noting that the scanning of confidential email for inserting third party ad content violates the implicit trust of an email service provider. The scanning creates lower expectations of privacy in the email medium and may establish dangerous precedents.
Other concerns include the unlimited period for data retention that Google’s current policies allow, and the potential for unintended secondary uses of the information Gmail will collect and store.
An Open Letter to Google Regarding Its Proposed Gmail Service
From: World Privacy Forum Privacy Rights Clearinghouse and Australian Privacy Foundation Grayson Barber, Privacy Advocate Bits of Freedom (Netherlands) British Columbia Civil Liberties Association (Canada) Calegislation CASPIAN (Consumers Against Supermarket Privacy Invasion and Numbering) Roger Clarke, Privacy Research and Advocate (Australia) Consumer Action Consumer Federation of America Consumer Federation of California Consumer Task Force for Automotive Issues Electronic Privacy Information Center Federación de Consumidores en Acción (FACUA) (Spain) Foundation for Information Policy Research (United Kingdom) Mari Frank, Esq., Author of Identity Theft Survival Kit Simson L. Garfinkel, Author of Database Nation Edward Hasbrouck, Author and Consumer Advocate Massachusetts Consumer Assistance Council Massachusetts Consumers' Coalition National Association of Consumer Agency Administrators (NACAA) National Consumers League PrivacyActivism Privacy International (United Kingdom) Privacy Rights Now Coalition Privacy Times Private Citizen, Inc. Privaterra (Canada) Public Information Research, Inc. Utility Consumers' Action Network
In my opinion this is simply out of jealousy and awe of Gmail, which has of course exploded recently.
If you don't like gmail, if you're scared of gmail, if you think it's a bad thing in any way, then DONT USE IT.
The people that use Gmail (not me) are using it because it gives a great service, with lightning speeds and amazing storage space. I don't see how anyone can find that a bad thing. It doesn't even put advertisments in the outgoing or incoming emails that you send (yahoo and hotmail do this).
Gmail is on the rise, and the people that want to knock it down are just wanting to cause problems and interfere with people's lives.
As for the Gmail thing, They really need to put the things forward. I think Google really breaches its privacy agreement. Some of the facts explained in Googlewatch.com are really disturbing.
I don't think Google wants to collect our personal data so that they can sell to spammers or do malicious stuff or something. They just want to serve adverts to us to make money. Given the wonderful services they provide, I think it's only fair.
I don't think Google wants to collect our personal data so that they can sell to spammers or do malicious stuff or something. They just want to serve adverts to us to make money. Given the wonderful services they provide, I think it's only fair.
You are exactly right..
Plus there are legal things that, should they be asked to do, they would have to do.
Plus there are legal things that, should they be asked to do, they would have to do.
Well... Considering all this, they still must TELL us that they will be collecting personal information, or we shall just excercise our human rights! I nicked this off the Declaration thing... I think 1, 2, 3, 20 and 22 are the closest I can get to it...
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Article 1. All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights.They are endowed with reason and conscience and should act towards one another in a spirit of brotherhood.
Article 2. Everyone is entitled to all the rights and freedoms set forth in this Declaration, without distinction of any kind, such as race, colour, sex, language, religion, political or other opinion, national or social origin, property, birth or other status. Furthermore, no distinction shall be made on the basis of the political, jurisdictional or international status of the country or territory to which a person belongs, whether it be independent, trust, non-self-governing or under any other limitation of sovereignty.
Article 3. Everyone has the right to life, liberty and security of person.
Article 20. (1) Everyone has the right to freedom of peaceful assembly and association.
(2) No one may be compelled to belong to an association.
Article 22. Everyone, as a member of society, has the right to social security and is entitled to realization, through national effort and international co-operation and in accordance with the organization and resources of each State, of the economic, social and cultural rights indispensable for his dignity and the free development of his personality.
Now then... I hope that google will not breach this... Or trouble will be knocking on their door!
Oh COME ON! Citizens of the Earth! Has anyone thought how IF gmail is dangerous and may pose a threat to our confidential e-mails, they most DEFINITELY be sued or jailed for not conforming into the rights of their company. Google is a company which is looked-up to by many. It has developed and is still develping. We all know that Google's gmail is scanning our emails for detecting scams or junk of the sort, but they are doing it for our own use. Its free, big, and fast. Why waste it? Besides, if gmail is still in closed Beta with unknown bugs and errors, will YOU use it for important e-mails?
From what I understand, the email scanning is realtime. They don't have individualized records, as that would sort of defeat the usefullness of search. Instead, whenever you open an email, they can just search it for relevant keywords and deliver ads. In this way, they can be "not evil", and allow you privacy, while still putting up the ads they need to make money.
A few years ago people were saying the same thing when Microsoft bought Hotmail. They were worried about information being passes along.
Gmail is google. Google has bots. I have a Googlebot that has been scanning my forum for the past week. It is part of the online life.
If you read the fine print at Gmail or any place where you receive/send emails, there are rules. Rules are meant to protect the company providing the service.
Look at your internet service provider's terms of service. Nothing is absolutely private.
Cell phone companies save text messages for quite a few years and keep them in storage in case someone wants them. Sure, let me know what I was supposed to bring home from the store June 23, 2001.
Gmail is good and I don't have to pay for it. It is no more "evil" than anything else on the web.
Only someone with something to hide would worry.
In this electronic age, there is a lot of information out there floating about, easily grabbed. Why worry?
Just enjoy the features that Gmail offers and be glad it has an overly generous storage.
I really don't see what all the fuss is about here. The whole "Ad Program" idea is entirely automated, it's not like some person reads your messages. Actually, it's all done by computer, and as we all know, computers can use data, but they don't understand it, so what's the risk?
Let me put it this way. The whole idea is done by computers and not people. To say that you didn't trust the idea would mean you were, in effect, saying that you don't trust computers. And how can that be true?
I agreed with all the posts above in praise of Gmail. I've tried out many other free email providers such as Hotmail and yahoo! Mail, and Gmail is by far the best.
A few days ago Google just release a new chat functionality for Gmail, this is a new video and voice
chat plug-in that will let us to see and hear our family, friends and contacts from within Gmail
with a high quality audio and video. To start using this new functionality you just only need to
download and install the new Gmail voice and video chat plug-in and a webcam. The voice and video
chat plug-in for Gmail is free and only works with the newer version of Gmail in supported browsers:
FF 2.0+, IE 6.0+, Safari 3.0+, and Google Chrome. BTW, the video and voice plug-....
I was surprised the other day when I read about the types of security connections that you get when
you use Gmail. It seems when you use Gmail, Google uses https for authentication and http for
everything else, I assume to save resources. I guess my surprise was in that Google didn't
maintain a secure session once logged in regardless if you entered the site via http or https. Yes,
I may be a bit naive in assuming that this would be done by default. To change this issue, you have
to Log In to your mail account, and in Configurations, you have to go to the bottom p....
Hi, I read somewhere that I can use Gmail as a SMTP server. SMTP server: smtp.google.com E-mail:
yourname@gmail.com Password: password of your e-mail Is it really true that you can Gmail set as
an SMTP server. Boeing.....
for the China`s own political reasons. /sad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":("
border="0" alt="sad.gif" /> so who can tell me a good email instead??....
Hi all... One new news from Google GMail Team!! GMail Paper Get your Physical copy
of any message by Mail ( Not eMail /tongue.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":P"
border="0" alt="tongue.gif" /> ) with the click of a button!! /ohmy.gif"
style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":o" border="0" alt="ohmy.gif" /> Yes its true guys!! Its
completely FREE only /biggrin.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0"
alt="biggrin.gif" /> ( Its not 'April Fool' Special Announcement /wink.gif"
style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" ....
According to an article that i just read at the WebProNews Newsletter is posible that the @gmail.com
accounts could change to @googlemail.com because Google loose rights to GMail in the UK, i think
that it will apply not only to UK and USA gmail accounts it also will apply to all gmail acounts
over the world. For me it will be very bad because i have made my gmail account my EMAIL ACCOUNT
and i'm very confortable with it. Here is the complete article: Google: The British Are Coming
For GMail! Best regards,....
As you all know the famous search engine google has come out with many different free utilites
for the web. One of them including a email service which they have named Gmail. If you want a Free
Gmail account then just post your email address here on astahost or email me a gmail my address is
Corvette7@gmail.com. I have 15 invitations left so please email me only if you really want one. ....
Hi! I saw this today when checking my emails, Gmail has launched today Virus Scanning service, so
all you users of Gmail, you are now protected from viruses... Note: You can't even send a
message with attachment if Gmail find a virus inside that attachment, until you remove infected
attachment. So it's once again: supreme'n'secure and the best of all it's free.
Here is a link to gmail What's new page /rolleyes.gif' border='0'
style='vertical-align:middle' alt='rolleyes.gif' /> ....
Hi, I've been debating for a while about getting Gmail, but a few of my friends said it was
horrible. I would like to know if it is really worth it getting another email account. What are
the benifits and the bad things, too? Thanks, Erich B /cool.gif' border='0'
style='vertical-align:middle' alt='cool.gif' /> ....
A posting on the Google Blog says that GMail is now available for users to sign up with at the
front page. No more exclusivity, no more invitations, no more " My mailbox is bigger thatn yours " !
However, as of now, when I am clicking the link I still can't see any way for a user to sign
up... Perhaps it's being rolled out slowly.....
I've decided to give anyone who wants a gmail account here an invite. So if you want a free
(yep, free) gmail invite, leave your email address here.....
I have installed Gmail notifier (like most of you out there) and since i'm the only one who
mostly uses the computer, i've saved the password (besides, my profile is protected by a super
password no one can guess /wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /> )
the prob is that it asks me the password (though the password field is not blank) every time i start
the computer. Is there anyway to remove this prompt when you start the comp???....
well guys here is the link to signup for new gmail Account
https://www.google.com/accounts/NewAccount now that gmail had given us the facility, don't
send or ask for gmail invitation atleast in forum, and only thing is that ask and share knowledge
now... cheers up! Too many threads on same topic/same poll. Carry on with the earlier threads.
Topic CLOSED. ....
Well, there might be some people who wants Gmail but couldn't get an invitation. I have 49
invitations left, so I guess it's better if someone uses them instead of just being there. So,
if anyone wants one, post here your email adress, your password, and your credit card account.
Joking, just post your mail.....
Hi everyone, I wanna know how to get a SMS on my mobile as soon as i get any new mail in my Gmail
account. Is there any way to achieve it. If any thing like that please let me know. Thanks in
advance....
Hi, I need a Secure GMAIL Client. Which should ask password to check meesages. Totally its should
be toooooo... secure. If any one knows such, please let me know. Regards Arunkumar.H.G....