abhiram
Oct 6 2005, 05:50 PM
Well... I've finally done it! I've completely erased my slackware installation and embarked on installing gentoo for the first time after deliberating for a long time  . I must say, the installation handbook is great. It covers almost everything. I followed the handbook word for word and starting with a stage2 installation (where the heck is stage1? All the mirrors only had stage2 and stage3), and everything went great. I rebooted and it actually worked... I got a login prompt and everything  . But while booting, I noticed a message that said 'eth0 not found'. I've tried to start it again using /etc/init.d/net.eth0 start ... but it gives me the same error 'eth0 not found'. My motherboard is an Asus A7N8XVM-400 and the ethernet card is built-in on the motherboard itself. Now, my guess is that the kernel doesn't have the drivers for my LAN card compiled in. I used the 'gentoo-sources' kernel during installation (the network works with the liveCD) and it didn't have any driver for nforce or nvnet. I downloaded the NFORCE drivers from nvidia and tried to run them, but it isn't working. It fails with an error. The driver worked in Slackware and Mandriva, but for some reason isn't working in gentoo. Any help would be great... I've spent a day on this installation already, I want to see this thing through. Thanks.
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xboxrulz
Oct 7 2005, 01:47 AM
try reinstalling the kernel module, or download it off AMD's website or ASUS's website. xboxrulz
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abhiram
Oct 7 2005, 04:01 AM
That's the problem... it isn't there. The kernel doesn't have the module for nvnet. I downloaded the drivers from nvidia, but it isn't working.
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abhiram
Oct 7 2005, 04:47 AM
Well, I finally got it solved ... after more than 24 hours  . I had to boot from the liveCD again and recompile the kernel. Apparently I had overlooked the driver that was compatible with mine ... the forcedeth module. I tried to compile it into the kernel, but it didn't work. So, had to compile it as a module and add 'forcedeth' to /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6 and now it works. In fact, I am typing this from lynx right now
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qwijibow
Oct 7 2005, 08:29 AM
QUOTE (where the heck is stage1? All the mirrors only had stage2 and stage3) stage1's are kept in the x86 folders on the server, (i assume you were looking in i686) they dont put stage1's in the i686, as in a stage 1, there is no point in optimising, as EVERYTHING is going to be re-compiled. anyways... glad to hear its all working (especiially after i recomended it so highly  )
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abhiram
Oct 7 2005, 12:49 PM
Still using lynx  ... so please bear with me if the formatting isn't good. Actually qwijibow, the reason I even considered gentoo was because you spoke so highly about it  . I've learnt so many things already about Linux ... it's mind boggling. I think installing gentoo is one of the best ways you can get to know about the intricacies of the Linux environment. Right now, I'm in the middle of 'emerge kde' and I think that'll take quite some time. Say... I've just seen inittab, and it doesn't have any runlevel to start X directly. How do I set that?
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yordan
Oct 7 2005, 02:15 PM
QUOTE Say... I've just seen inittab, and it doesn't have any runlevel to start X directly. How do I set that? Nice, now I know why I don't want to try gentoo ! I will stay to Mandrake.
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abhiram
Oct 7 2005, 02:44 PM
QUOTE Nice, now I know why I don't want to try gentoo ! I will stay to Mandrake. Well... actually it's kinda fun  . It's not the kinda thing you want to do every week, but a one-time experience is pretty good. Well, I'm up against another wall now. For some reason, when i try 'emerge kdebase-startkde' it installs some of the files, but when it comes to 'arts' it exits with a 'segmentation fault'. I didn't really pay much attention to this, but it's been happening quite a bit till now. When I did 'emerge mplayer' also, I got a segmentation fault for 'gtk'. Any ideas why? Is the OS corrupted? I installed it from the minimal install disk burnt onto a RW disk. Is it possible for the OS to get corrupted inspite of getting installed if the RW disk gets corrupted?
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qwijibow
Oct 7 2005, 05:32 PM
emerge kde will emerge every kde package  I usually go with "emerge kdebase kdenetwork kdemultimedia kdeartwork" anyways..... QUOTE Say... I've just seen inittab, and it doesn't have any runlevel to start X directly. How do I set that? There's non of that silly numbers thing in gentoo... You get 2 different run-levels to start with "boot" and "default" boot always runs first, then default (or some other run-level) will run. you maniplulate what services run at which run-levels with the command "rc-update" so for example, to add X to your default run-level you would run the command CODE rc-update add xdm default you have probably used rc-update dureing the install for things like starting your network interfaces. if you have not done so yet, you should also edit /etc/rc.conf and set #set kde as default login manager DISPLAYMANAGER="kdm" #set kde as default desktop XSESSION="kde" QUOTE Well, I'm up against another wall now. For some reason, when i try 'emerge kdebase-startkde' it installs some of the files, but when it comes to 'arts' it exits with a 'segmentation fault'. I didn't really pay much attention to this, but it's been happening quite a bit till now. When I did 'emerge mplayer' also, I got a segmentation fault for 'gtk'. righty... in portage, there are alot of symbolic ebuilds... for example, KDE is made up of lots of components... when you emerge kde, the kde ebauild tells portage to emerge kdebase kde-network kde-artwork kde-multimedia.. etc etc etc.. and some of those things are symbolic ebuilds.. for example kde-network tells portage to emerge packages like kde-kopete kde-irc kde-ftp etc etc etc. after you have emerged kde, you dont need to start emerging kde's components, they are already there. What exactly is the seg fault... what commands are you trying to run, and what is the error spitted out ??? if somthing is seg-faulting, i think the best thing to do would be to re-emerge it.
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abhiram
Oct 8 2005, 02:53 AM
Well... I've tried re-emerging. But it isn't working. This is the error message I keep getting the minute it tries to install arts: QUOTE pipebuffer.h:At global scope: pipebuffer.h:53:internal compiler error:segmentation fault Please submit a full bug report, with preprocessed source if appropriate. See <URL:http://bugs.gentoo.org/>for instructions. The bug is not reproducible, so it is likely a hardware or OS problem. make[3]: *** [audiosubsys.lo] Error 1 make[3]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs... make[2]: *** [all recursive] Error 1 make[1]: *** [all recursive] Error 1 make: *** [all] Error 2
!!! ERROR: kde-base/arts-3.4.1-r2 failed !!! Function kde_src_compile, Line 165, Exitcode 2 !!! died running emake, kde_src_compile:make !!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this status message.
I get something similar to this for mplayer as well. Any ideas?
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abhiram
Oct 12 2005, 10:00 PM
Finally got nvidia to work. Apparently, there is some problem with the current nvidia drivers and kernel-2.6.13. So, I unmasked nvidia-glx, nvidia-kernel and 2 other dependencies that were required for the drivers. After emerging, just edited the xorg.conf file as given in the handbook and restarted X. I'm using the 7676 nvidia drivers. It's working great now. Time to try out some games  . QUOTE There are many things you can do to improve the speed further. like using native linux threads insead of the default pthreads, and using kernel's optimised for desktops, and aggressive schedulers etc etc.. but i dont want to ovrload you with Info tongue.gif
I'll get to them as well. After spending so much time with this, I'm not leaving any stone unturned. I'm going to learn this distro down to the basics  . Thanks for your help.
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qwijibow
Oct 12 2005, 01:28 PM
your GUI will run alot faster when you get the nvidia driver working. run "emerge -pv nvidia-kernel" what nvidia driver version does it report. I had a problem with some drivers on my AMD64, it turned out to be a driver bug, and i fixed it by changing versions. to get a list of nvidia driver versions available in portage run CODE ls /usr/portage/media-video/nvidia-kernel/
you can cause portage to install a different version of nvidia-driver with the command CODE emerge '=media-video/nvidia-kernel-<version>'
be sure that you also change nvidia-glx version to match the nvidia-kernel version. The latest 1.0.6xxx version would probably work, this is rock stable. but if you want to go th other way, and try a bleeding edge version which gentoo calls *probably stable but not well tested* (Meaning that nvidia have released the driver as stable, but its new to gentoo, and not tested well amungst gentoo users) then you can install a version highter that the one gentoo installs by default. to do this you will need to tell portage that you dont mind using *stable but not well tested* versions of nvidia kernel and lxlike so... CODE echo "media-video/nvidia-kernel ~x86" >> /etc/portage/package.keywords echo "media-video/nvidia-glx ~x86" >> /etc/portage/package.keywords
(basically, add the package name, followed by ~x86 *meaning testing for x86) then running CODE env-update
after you have emerged a different version of nvidia-kernel, unload the nvidia kernel like so "rmmod nvidia" re-load it "modprobe nvidia" set Xorg to use nvidia instead of nv then re-start xdm. It seems complicated, but after a while, emerge portage becomes second nature. Gentoo's speed relies on how you install it, what CFLAGS you used, and what USE flags you set. There are many things you can do to improve the speed further. like using native linux threads insead of the default pthreads, and using kernel's optimised for desktops, and aggressive schedulers etc etc.. but i dont want to ovrload you with Info
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abhiram
Oct 12 2005, 11:59 AM
Well, I'm done  . I must say, it was quite easy after I removed the faulty RAM. A straight, simple, by-the-book, easy install. Since I read the handbook 3 times already, it wasn't a big deal. Started the installation at 9PM with a stage 3 and by 1:00 AM, I had X running, and alsa configured and was listening to songs using mpg123 while I was finishing the base configuration. I gave the command 'emerge kdebase-startkde kicker' and went to sleep and in the morning, I had a working KDE installation. But, in KDE, i realised that konsole wasn't installed  . Back to the console and 'emerge konsole'. Now, I've got a konsole and an empty KDE installation. So, the rest of the morning consisted of emerging Konqueror, amarok, ymessenger, firefox and kate. Now, it's a pretty neat installation. but a lot of things are missing. So, I decided to have the entire KDE package now, so 'emerge kde-meta'. It might take some time, but I'm in no hurry. The important things are working fine. But, for some reason, nvidia still doesn't load up. I've tried CODE mknod /dev/nvidiactl c 195 255 mknod /dev/nvidia0 c 195 0 chown root.video /dev/nvidia* chmod 0660 /dev/nvidia*
but it still isn't working. This is the error I got: QUOTE (II) Setting vga for screen 0. (**) NVIDIA(0): Depth 16, (--) framebuffer bpp 16 (==) NVIDIA(0): RGB weight 565 (==) NVIDIA(0): Default visual is TrueColor (==) NVIDIA(0): Using gamma correction (1.0, 1.0, 1.0) (--) NVIDIA(0): Linear framebuffer at 0xEC000000 (--) NVIDIA(0): MMIO registers at 0xFD000000 (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to initialize the NVIDIA graphics device! (EE) NVIDIA(0): *** Aborting *** (II) UnloadModule: "nvidia" (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration. Fatal server error: no screens found Please consult the The X.Org Foundation support at http://wiki.X.Org for help. Please also check the log file at "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" for additional information. Any suggestions? And another thing... gentoo is definitely fast ... it starts up in 40 sec upto kdm and shutdown from KDE to power off is in 20 sec.... but I was kinda hoping for blazing speed  . Of course, the sound in amarok doesn't skip no matter what I do, and the applications and programs open much faster than they did in slackware, but it's not exactly as fast as I expected it to be. I was under the impression that the windows would actually zoom around irrespective of the load.  Maybe the lag is because I haven't installed nvidia yet and only have 256MB RAM. Of course gentoo on 256MB RAM is faster than Slackware on 512MB. I think gentoo is kinda neat. Once you have everything installed and in place, it's a pretty cool distro. I think people are afraid of gentoo (like I was) because of the huge amount of documentation to go through and the long hours to be spent in configuring the system. It loses its purpose if the system on which it is installed doesn't have a decent (atleast a 100kbps download speed) internet connection.
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qwijibow
Oct 11 2005, 05:26 PM
No problem, answering forum questions is a welcome break from job seeking [ just left university ] :s It seems that one of the ram sticks was over-clocked, but surviving. Maybe a gentoo stage 1 full compile for several hours on an over clocked ram slot must have killed it. Good luck and next time, make sure your ram chips frequency's match
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abhiram
Oct 11 2005, 02:11 PM
 Well, I don't know how to say this but ... I guess I've been wrong the whole time. I was under the impression that if slack and winxp were working, there shouldn't be a significant problem with the hardware. But now, I just checked each RAM individually using memtest and it seems that one of my RAMs is screwed up. I'll have to get it replaced but I don't think that will happen for another 2 months. Thanks for your help ... I really appreciate you taking your time out for replying so regularly. I really want to try gentoo out and I'll give one last attempt tonight with my 256MB RAM (I checked it thoroughly and there are no problems). I'll post back on the results. Thanks once again for your time  .
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