| | When the major OS' were first being created the reason that people liked macs is because of their ease of use. You didn't have to memorize all sorts of code just to open a document, they had an interactive interface from the start.
Now that everything is so simple a hamster could run it, the Apple company has gone the other way. They still have the simple interface for those that don't require something more customizable, but thanks to a little program called Applescript you can use basic unix programming to change the inner workings of programs and documents (you can even change the OS to some extent). From simple things like allowing free Quicktime to go into fullscreen mode, to more complicated things.
Ease of use when I need it and customization when I need it are the reasons that I chose Mac. |
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qwijibow
Dec 9 2004, 02:21 PM
QUOTE thanks to a little program called Applescript you can use basic unix programming mas OSX Iis UNIX. as far as i am concerned, MAC OS is dead... Mac OS9 was lame... the company was panicking, they re-hired steve jobs, and he saved the company... How did he do it ? He scrapped Mac OS, and instead, used FreeBSD (re-write the kernel, and desktop environment, ported from OS9)
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MacOS ???? Apple is a company without scruple, they have created a Product call OSX where only the X is Unix, Mac os is based only on the graphic apps and if you open the console is like the win's one, with more apps, but they can't say.. wonderful as Mac powerful as Unix MacOsX is a fake
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fce-moerbeke
Dec 9 2004, 09:58 PM
I use the MAC at school for designing, cause the mac just has better resistance against crashes and so....Windows on the other hand allows more programs....so it's too find a balance...
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shaldengeki
Dec 10 2004, 12:12 AM
All of our school computers are Windows-run, with the exception of maybe one or two staff-owned Apples. But even then, most people at our school prefer Windows over Macintosh, if only for the ease of use. Seriously, if you're looking to make something available to the majority of computer users out there, you should choose Windows. Unless, of course, everyone in your community uses Macintosh, which I doubt.
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hashbang
Dec 10 2004, 01:47 AM
QUOTE(shaldengeki @ Dec 10 2004, 11:12 AM) Seriously, if you're looking to make something available to the majority of computer users out there, you should choose Windows. Unless, of course, everyone in your community uses Macintosh, which I doubt. Actually I think the majority of users should not be lining the pockets of Microsoft shareholders. They should be supporting the ones who are really interested in quality computing. I agree, the MacOSX is a freebsd ripoff. I think they shoud be giving away MAcOSX for free! ANyway, with the good graphical support for linux these days, the average home user could be just as ease with a linux box as a MS one. Viva la *nix! cheers hashbang 
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Soleq
Dec 10 2004, 02:02 AM
My choice in Macs is simple: I just can't seem to stop buying them. To me, the Mac was always something more than a pile of random computer parts thrown together with duct tape (as most early PCs were, and some still are). Apple created, in essence, a living being. PCs were workstations at Fortune 500 companies. Macs were elegant tools for the people with slightly too much money to do with. While the overall program base is far less than the Windows horde, I still find that I can do everything a PC user can. Sure, I might not be able to play counterstrike, but that to me is a small insignificant loss. The UNIX underpinnings have brought the Mac from a rather unstable age to the modern age. Same goes with Window's transition from 9x to NT-based. While some might cry out witch with this statement, but I view both OSX and XP as essentially the same OS. Choose your preference, and you'll be happy. I like the reliable hardware. I got tired of fixing a random part on the computer every other month.
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qwijibow
Dec 10 2004, 02:13 AM
QUOTE but I view both OSX and XP as essentially the same OS. OSX and OpenBSD (call it Unix if you want) are virtually the same OS. the BSD's are cousins of Linux, Linux is the daughter of Minix, Minix was Unix's little brother... its a strange family tree... but windows is the complete oposite of anything even remotely Unix Like.
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shaldengeki
Dec 10 2004, 02:56 AM
QUOTE Sure, I might not be able to play counterstrike, but that to me is a small insignificant loss. O_o BLASPHEMY!!!  Seriously, though, yeah... CS is great. As is Half-Life 2. It's no insignificant loss, as you are missing out on hours and hours of entertainment.
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qwijibow
Dec 10 2004, 05:20 PM
Counter Strike runs fine in Wine. and Wine runs fine on *nix systems. www.winehq.org
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Brian
Jul 9 2005, 02:51 PM
I've always used Apple and it works great for me. We're a large family of Mac users. I agree that many of the games and other software programs that a windows user can get first makes many people choose windows. Many people can't afford Macs since they are a bit more. When you buy Mac, you're buying the complete package. Apple is the computer AND the operating system. When you buy a Gateway, you have a Gateway computer, with a Microsoft operating system. When you buy a Dell, you have a Dell computer, with a Microsoft operating system. When you buy a .....well, you get the picture. Anyway, to address the HEATING issue in a POWERBOOK, avoid the "Flurry" screensaver. It is known to cause the cpu to heat up. A friend of mine uses iBreeze under her iBook to keep it cooler. It has two small fans which run off the usb. It keeps things cooler even in the summer heat. Have you tried checking the temperature of the Powerbook using some of the nice programs out there? Temperature MonitorThermographMacs rule!
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BlueMountain
Jul 9 2005, 01:44 PM
QUOTE I am just a 14 year old boy and have 3 mac lappys
I also use my PowerBook when i am out.People all look at it like there is no tomorrow. That is one of the reason i choose PowerBooks. Very beatiful and V-I-R-U-S F-R-E-E. as I know that even mac is not absolute virus Free, but just much less than win system. QUOTE Ok i know macintosh is an awesome editor. But is it good for gaming? Difficult to say, but my Powerbook 1G sure not good for game, it's getting too hot after about 30 mins play. and I tried to install sims2, OMG just forget it. I chose powerbook, because I didn't know much about apple computer, yes didn't know much, just heard of it and saw them in stores. So just want to know more about it, and bought one. I'd say that OSX is good stable OS, and less virus, but it's a bit heavy to carry around.
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the empty calorie
Jul 4 2005, 03:28 PM
Okay.....a few things need to be said here... just to shed some light on people. QUOTE(shaldengeki @ Dec 9 2004, 05:12 PM) All of our school computers are Windows-run, with the exception of maybe one or two staff-owned Apples. But even then, most people at our school prefer Windows over Macintosh, if only for the ease of use. Seriously, if you're looking to make something available to the majority of computer users out there, you should choose Windows. Unless, of course, everyone in your community uses Macintosh, which I doubt. Actually, if you want to make something available to the majority of computer users out there (assuming i's programs you are talking about), UNIX is the way to go. Typicaly it's easier porting to Windows from UNIX than vice versa. Not to mention if you write your source code properly, nearly everyone under the UNIX sun can use it. Also, personnaly, I would never design a Windows application in my life. The environment isn't exactly stable.Not to mention it would also run slower, and of course, not as stable as it would run on UNIX. What's the point of creating software for a buggy platform? QUOTE(qwijibow @ Dec 9 2004, 07:13 PM) OSX and OpenBSD (call it Unix if you want) are virtually the same OS. the BSD's are cousins of Linux, Linux is the daughter of Minix, Minix was Unix's little brother... its a strange family tree... but windows is the complete oposite of anything even remotely Unix Like. Well to be exact, BSD is more of an uncle of UNIX. You have the Mother (UNICS, later changed to UNIX), who had two children, System V and BSD, and then each had their own children. Children of System V being Minix, Linux, IRIX, and Solaris, and the children of BSD being Darwin (The actual OS in Mac OS X)...But yet it is a rather interesting family. And then we have Windows....completely unrelated, it's own family tree consisting of it's own father, CP/M, and then a 16-bit ripoff of CP/M that Microsoft didn't even create (MS-DOS) and Windows, originally the most crude and mediocre GUI out there for DOS, as compared to GEM and GEOS. If anyone actually did deserve to be that powerful of a company (in the AT world), it's Digital Research, NOT Microsoft. DR actually cared about it's customers and made good stuff. QUOTE(shaldengeki @ Dec 9 2004, 07:56 PM) O_o BLASPHEMY!!!  Seriously, though, yeah... CS is great. As is Half-Life 2. It's no insignificant loss, as you are missing out on hours and hours of entertainment. Counter-Strike and Half-Life honestly bore me, personally. Besides, I'd rather play games on a dedicated system, like a console. No compatibility issues, better-designed hardware for that specific purpose, not to mention current game consoles are all 64-bit systems, as opposed to 32-bit X86 ATs. Oh yes, and don't forget how much more comfortable it is to use a real controller as opposed to a keyboard. Computers generally, are better for games that exclusively use keyboard input, like Infocom-type games, and games that use something similar to SCUMM (think Monkey Island), or emulation of older, more simple systems. The advances in the past 10 years in video games, just really makes them too complex to play them on an AT. Wouldn't Counter-Strike be so much nicer to play when you can have an analog stick to aim with, rather than a numeric keypad or that horrible upside-down T? QUOTE(MajesticTreeFrog @ Dec 12 2004, 01:08 AM) The reason why someone goes from open hardware+closed OS to Open OS + Closed hardware(though Mac OSX is hardly truly open), is that some people don't care all that much about the open/closed debate. They want something that gives them no **** and does what they want. Windows will usually do what you want, at least kinda, but has a long history of either giving you **** itself or being virus ridden or having other random problems. Linux gives you **** in that its not very intuitive at all. Instead of doing your work or what have you the user has to Go Learn Linux, which can be no easy task. Then, on linux, while there is lots of software, there isn't photoshop(GIMP doesnt count, not by a long shot), dreamweaver, etc etc etc. So, after you learn linux, you have to Go Learn New Programs, which may or may not have the ease of use/features you require. Which all adds up to a huge hassle for someone who, like most people, just wants to use their computer to do their work and be done with it. Remember, before you drive a car, you must learn how to, and get a license. Before you perform surgery on someone, you must go to school, and before you use ANY kind of tool, you MUST learn how to properly operate it. Learning is an important part of life, and the more you learn, the more successful you will be. And a computer is a tool. If you don't want to learn how to use it, then why did you even buy it? If you are a parent, I'm sure you realise how ridiculous it would be to buy your child a car, them never learning how to drive it, throw them the keys and just say "Just go drive it, don't worry about not knowing what to do." Learning is an essential part of life, and it saddens me to try and see people avoid it. And using GIMP and Photoshop side by side, I can tell you that GIMP is every bit as good as Photoshop, if not, then better. So you have multiple windows open instead of one huge one, which contains, essentially all the same little windows inside it, resulting in nothing more than wasted space. I know, learning, and UNIX and the like can sound like a hassle, but really, it's not, as compared to Windows. Remember, you only have to learn it ONCE. With UNIX, maybe it's a small hassle in the beginning, but once you have it down, you have it down. Windows however, is the neverending hassle. Always Defragging, Scandisking, Antivirusing, and all this other junk that you do, really, only to just have to do it right over again. UNIX is actually a lot simpler and easier once you learn how to use it, in the sense that it doesn't give you **** when you actually want to get your work done. You know the command, and you know exactly what it is going to do. With Windws, you know maybe what it SHOULD do, but that doesn't mean it's going to do it. If you want the computer to do things YOUR way, use UNIX. If you like having problems, and an OS made by a company which doesn't care for it's customers, but only money and control of it's users, get Windows. (And remember, Windows XP is spyware itself, so Big Brother really IS watching.) If you don't want to use UNIX, or you need support for things that aren't yet supported in UNIX, get Mac OS X.
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Repeater
Jul 4 2005, 03:19 AM
I choose Mac because, well, I don't really play any computer games. I am very into photography and movie editing. Also, it is very user friendly for my wife and family. My kids are learning faster than I am, haha. I believe, though, that in the near future, everyone will have two computers. One MAC for everyday use and then a PC for business. Hopefully MAC can progress in the areas Windows does best.
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rhodesian.dragon
Jul 4 2005, 02:39 AM
The reason why I chose a Mac is because 99% of my major uses a Mac. If that was not the case then I would never use a Mac.
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