Does it really matter which is learnt first, and is there really a need to learn both. I guess an advantage of knowing both is that JAVA gives you a good guide to using OO prgramming where as C doesn't do this and instead introduces you to different methods and logic patterns.

As a programmer i feel that people tend to find a language that they feel comfortable with fairley quickly and raley leave that language when working on projects, someone who has learnt JAVA can do anything that someone working in C can do to a similar extent for most projects. this devalues the need to learn multipul languages very greatley as being very adept in one language is conciderabley better and more productive than being good in several that acomplish similar objectives.

Learning a language to satisfy a need is a good thing to do, for instance driver programming would be very very difficult (if at all possible) in JAVA where as a C programmer will find it far easier therefore a JAVA programmer who has a good understanding of programming methods should not find it to chalenging to shift to C and covering the project in the other language. This is how i learnt, working with a new language as a need arose. Not just picking up the 'JAVA for dummies' book and reading it from cover to cover.

 

 

 

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If someone is learning to program with *nix then i think they will probably be ok installing the required JAVA packages

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pls avoid double posting

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Take C first if you have time to take both. It makes you appreciate the computer both in the software and hardware regard. If you have time for only one, I think you should take Java. its simpler, object oriented although slower.

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The universities around Australia start with Java and then switch over to C++. Because of their similarities you do not have to relearn everything.

I just finished learning Java and now I am trying to start C++ before Uni starts again.

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I personaly started with C , cuz I was using a third party 3D engine ( game development ) built in C and requires C for scripting , I didn't goso deep in it , but it suited my needs as an Artist not a coder ..

Then I had to dive in for some JAVA for some Web Development needs , but mainly it was applets or just simple effects ..

The most prefered language for me is BASIC , I am using Blitz3D ( a highly popular 3D Game Engine , and it's using it's own version of basic which is very very simple to learn )

for example :

;Loading a car model and rotating it
Car=Loadmesh("c:\car.x")
CarTex=LoadTexture("c:\car.jpg")

RotateEntity car,0,90,0
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and so on ...

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If you know C or C++, you already know a lot of Java.
The Java language is based mostly on C and C++. You'll see that a lot of the basic language elements, for example, the primitive types, operators, and statements of Java are taken directly from C.

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Well, I don't know C, but I did take C++ before I took Java....I guess I should've voted for C instead.

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In my opinion c ---> c++ ---> java is a good order. I found java the most fun language of the three. Easier to learn and absence of pointers, automatic garbage collection and cool object-oriented features were excellent features. However, the speed of c, c++ code is unmatched.

What is usually do is to do the "core" number crunching in c/c++ and the eyecandy stuff in java. Get the best of both worlds.

But some scripting languages are too cool to be ignored. OCaml and Ruby ... boy those are cool languages. I recomment them to anyone anytime to handle most jobs.

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If you are talking about switching to just vanilla "C" from Java then yeah - you got some biiiig problems lying ahead.. but if it is "C++" following the OOP model, then I think Java is far easier to get a grasp of the OOP concept, coz you CANNOT write your programs otherwise... Everything starts and ends with a "Class"... switching to OOP in C++ is a lot easier after that - just a little variation in syntax.

 

 

 

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