bakr_2k5
Jan 27 2007, 08:29 PM
Hi there, (Don't know if this is the right forum for this. And it also applies to all other OS's I guess. Though I'm in Ubuntu LiveCD at the moment!) Got a question, I've read on the net it IS possible to 'burn' an ISO file to a partition on the harddisk?! Though they don't say HOW to do it. I've been searching google like all day only for this and getting pretty desperate on this!  Anyone in here that knows how to do this?My idea is, I have a 3,2 gb spare hd which I'm going to use as my "ISO drive". I make a bootable floppy disk to boot the "ISO partition" of my choice to install. This spares me from download every ISO over and over again  I've also been searching for "Boot ISO from grub / lilo" but couldn't find anything to do this. (especially on windows ISO, though legal CDs but ripped from CD to ISO!  ) If you know something about this too, I'll be happy to hear! I really need to know this, since it'll give me: a. Better install speed (since HD is faster then CD) b. No spoiled CDs c. Less (spoiled) CDs d. Easy way to install something else etc... etc... Hope to get some fast reply here!  bakr_2k5
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nightfox
Jan 27 2007, 08:39 PM
"Burn" an ISO to a hard disk? Is this like imaging a computer? You can't actually "burn" anything to a hard disk since it doesn't use a laser... just magnetism. If you mean image a computer, there are several tools available. However, all the ones I know cost money. [N]F
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Mark420
Jan 27 2007, 08:45 PM
hey mate..after a brief search I came up with a few things that may help.. http://dirk.eddelbuettel.com/quantian/howto_lilogrub.htmlhttp://www.knoppix.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11796Hope this helps..not tested it myself but post back any feedback cos its an interesting idea..I have a couple of DVDs with lots of different OS on it..but it would be nice just to have an old 10 gigger that you can connect and rebuild from..
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bakr_2k5
Jan 27 2007, 09:08 PM
QUOTE(nightfox @ Jan 27 2007, 08:39 PM)  "Burn" an ISO to a hard disk? Is this like imaging a computer? You can't actually "burn" anything to a hard disk since it doesn't use a laser... just magnetism. If you mean image a computer, there are several tools available. However, all the ones I know cost money.
[N]F Yeah I know this. And it can't be called burn though don't have other words for it ... Mark420, I came across those too today. Though they're very much linux specific since it uses the kernel from the ISO. And Windows ISO's don't have such a kernel (i think). --- I've also seen some people that said: "Format the partition as CDFS / iso9660". Though can't seem to find ANYTHING that can do that. Or some howto or something. Anyway, I don't want it to be Linux specific. Because of my Windows ISO. So those methods you (Mark420) mentioned won't work I guess. I hope I'll get some more replies here. In the mean time I'll build a bootable floppy disk, and try some stuff with that. It might work in some way! bakr_2k5
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WeaponX
Jan 27 2007, 10:08 PM
Was confused here as well I'm with nightfox. If you mean imaging the drive instead, you will need to get programs like Norton Ghost or Acronis TrueImage. Both of these programs should be able to accomplish what you wanted originally there. Image files are meant for speedier "installs". It will be a one to one copy from this 3.2 GB hard drive to another hard drive you want to install the operating system on.
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bakr_2k5
Jan 27 2007, 10:23 PM
QUOTE(WeaponX @ Jan 27 2007, 10:08 PM) Was confused here as well I'm with nightfox. If you mean imaging the drive instead, you will need to get programs like Norton Ghost or Acronis TrueImage. Both of these programs should be able to accomplish what you wanted originally there. Image files are meant for speedier "installs". It will be a one to one copy from this 3.2 GB hard drive to another hard drive you want to install the operating system on. Very short reply, No that not what I mean, That 3,2 gb drive will contain install ISOs (windows iso, ubuntu iso, etc) and no hd ISOs. bakr_2k5
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vujsa
Jan 28 2007, 01:32 AM
QUOTE(bakr_2k5 @ Jan 27 2007, 05:23 PM)
Very short reply,
No that not what I mean,
That 3,2 gb drive will contain install ISOs (windows iso, ubuntu iso, etc) and no hd ISOs.
bakr_2k5
An ISO is an image of a drive. Whether it be a hard drive, floppy drive, or optical drive. It is just a file! So, what you are asking makes no sence to the rest of us! I don't mean to be overly blunt but you don't seem to know what you want to ask! Most ISO readers will only look at drive formated as an optical disk, CD or DVD! It seems that you want to store your ISO files on a hard drive. Copy and paste would work for that! If you want to use these ISO's as if they were on optical media, then you need an emulator. Search for: "DVD Drive Emulators" => http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=d...G=Google+Search"Virtual Drives" => http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=V...amp;btnG=SearchMost of these require an OS to operate so, they won't provide a solution in the event that you are trying to create a backup of your system that can be easily installed in the event of a crash! If you are tired of "wasting" cd's/dvd's, then use rewritable disks! If you are concerned with the speed, then you need to take a deep breath and try to imagine the world when we only had 5-1/4 inch floppy drives! Anyhow, you really should try and figure out what it is that you need help with and ask a intellegent question. vujsa
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mastercomputers
Jan 28 2007, 01:56 AM
ISO files are just images of the content they cloned, most likely created from a DVD/CD. I use to boot Live CDs off the Hard Drive. It was simply downloading the ISO, giving it a location: CODE cat name_of_iso.iso > /dev/hda10 Then alter the bootloader to point to the root /dev/hda10. Booting ISOs under NTFS partitions is another story though and since I work mostly under Linux, I never did get round to doing an NTFS ISO boot. Cheers, MC
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FeedBacker
Nov 9 2007, 10:39 PM
Well, since I have the same question and it looks like maybe only mastercomputers understood it... It is possible to boot from a removable hard drive on many newer computers. What he would like to do is put the .iso file directly in to a partition on the disk, thereby making that partition identical to the CD and bootable as if it were that bootable CD itself. Not copy the files. Not copy a CD to a hard drive. Take a .iso file and 'burn', IE, write it, to a partition on the hard drive, exactly as if it were to a writable CD/DVD. The people complaining about his using the word burn are REALLY missing the point. That's what I'd like to do too and I can't figure out how.
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toby
Nov 12 2007, 05:46 PM
I have a similar question, can you run a live cd iso, or an iso temp, from boot or something like VMware? I don't know what my cd writer can do, not too bothered about that because I know I can use Ubuntu live cds, and dvds.
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iGuest
Nov 11 2009, 05:13 PM
on a mac
Burn Iso To Hd?
I know your able to do it on a mac through the disk utility. I had to do it with an operating system. I had an 7.1gb iso but no dl dvd's. It worked perfectly but the hardware was out of date so couldn't install the OS
-reply by Get the point
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iGuest
Sep 9 2009, 09:10 PM
I hear You
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Replying to bakr_2k5Replying to bakr_2k5
Somebody else is also tired of too much hussle over making iso image to work from somewhere else than bootable cd/dvd.
I have looked for software witch would format usb pen drive/hdd so that when I start pc with it, it would display simple menu of the contents of one subfolder in it where I could select one iso image. Then the software would create a fake cd/dvd drive from it but alas... No software like that seems to exist yet.
Think about it: no more carrying a case full of cd's and dvd's. Only one usb hdd with all the os installation disk images and utility cd's.
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iGuest
Aug 15 2009, 08:28 PM
ultra iso can!
Burn Iso To Hd?
Ultra iso has an option to "write iso to hdd" I used it for linux a lot xp doesn't like it that much I think the loader needed a little editing but I wasnt after getting xp to work anyway, also the program will adjust the boot loader for linux if it needs to I did it with ubuntu its pretty much point and click and yes it works on external usb hdd I did it with a usb as well
-reply by xxchr15xx
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iGuest
Aug 3 2009, 09:25 PM
MC how do you alter your boot manager to look on that partition
Burn Iso To Hd?
once you copy the .Iso to the partition, how do you alter your bootloader? for example, I do not have grub installed here.. I'm using an usb hard disk attached to an eeepc.
not a grub guru by any means.. Could you provide a hint as to the basic steps needed to get grub (or lilo?) onto the usb-hard disk so that the BIOS booter can find it?
another q: out of curiosity, if you dd the .Iso directly to the HD (ie, dd if=file.Iso of=/dev/sdc ) will the BIOS be able to boot that?
thank you so much
-reply by decora
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iGuest
Aug 3 2009, 01:05 AM
I too have many LiveCDs and ISOs, GHOs, TIBs for different purposes.
I would like keep these image files on a flash or hard disk, and boot the computer with a USB flash and have a menu that comes up:
1) boot from /dev/hda (Windows), 2) boot from /dev/hdb (Linux), 3) boot from ISO file.
The concept is not hard, and the people saying that you can not "burn" to a hard drive are taking it literally.
I am sure Lilo, grub or Avlgomgr does it, but How?
-reply by mastermind
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