bakr_2k5
Jan 27 2007, 08:29 PM
Hi there, (Don't know if this is the right forum for this. And it also applies to all other OS's I guess. Though I'm in Ubuntu LiveCD at the moment!) Got a question, I've read on the net it IS possible to 'burn' an ISO file to a partition on the harddisk?! Though they don't say HOW to do it. I've been searching google like all day only for this and getting pretty desperate on this!  Anyone in here that knows how to do this?My idea is, I have a 3,2 gb spare hd which I'm going to use as my "ISO drive". I make a bootable floppy disk to boot the "ISO partition" of my choice to install. This spares me from download every ISO over and over again  I've also been searching for "Boot ISO from grub / lilo" but couldn't find anything to do this. (especially on windows ISO, though legal CDs but ripped from CD to ISO!  ) If you know something about this too, I'll be happy to hear! I really need to know this, since it'll give me: a. Better install speed (since HD is faster then CD) b. No spoiled CDs c. Less (spoiled) CDs d. Easy way to install something else etc... etc... Hope to get some fast reply here!  bakr_2k5
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nightfox
Jan 27 2007, 08:39 PM
"Burn" an ISO to a hard disk? Is this like imaging a computer? You can't actually "burn" anything to a hard disk since it doesn't use a laser... just magnetism. If you mean image a computer, there are several tools available. However, all the ones I know cost money. [N]F
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Mark420
Jan 27 2007, 08:45 PM
hey mate..after a brief search I came up with a few things that may help.. http://dirk.eddelbuettel.com/quantian/howto_lilogrub.htmlhttp://www.knoppix.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11796Hope this helps..not tested it myself but post back any feedback cos its an interesting idea..I have a couple of DVDs with lots of different OS on it..but it would be nice just to have an old 10 gigger that you can connect and rebuild from..
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bakr_2k5
Jan 27 2007, 09:08 PM
QUOTE(nightfox @ Jan 27 2007, 08:39 PM)  "Burn" an ISO to a hard disk? Is this like imaging a computer? You can't actually "burn" anything to a hard disk since it doesn't use a laser... just magnetism. If you mean image a computer, there are several tools available. However, all the ones I know cost money.
[N]F Yeah I know this. And it can't be called burn though don't have other words for it ... Mark420, I came across those too today. Though they're very much linux specific since it uses the kernel from the ISO. And Windows ISO's don't have such a kernel (i think). --- I've also seen some people that said: "Format the partition as CDFS / iso9660". Though can't seem to find ANYTHING that can do that. Or some howto or something. Anyway, I don't want it to be Linux specific. Because of my Windows ISO. So those methods you (Mark420) mentioned won't work I guess. I hope I'll get some more replies here. In the mean time I'll build a bootable floppy disk, and try some stuff with that. It might work in some way! bakr_2k5
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WeaponX
Jan 27 2007, 10:08 PM
Was confused here as well I'm with nightfox. If you mean imaging the drive instead, you will need to get programs like Norton Ghost or Acronis TrueImage. Both of these programs should be able to accomplish what you wanted originally there. Image files are meant for speedier "installs". It will be a one to one copy from this 3.2 GB hard drive to another hard drive you want to install the operating system on.
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bakr_2k5
Jan 27 2007, 10:23 PM
QUOTE(WeaponX @ Jan 27 2007, 10:08 PM) Was confused here as well I'm with nightfox. If you mean imaging the drive instead, you will need to get programs like Norton Ghost or Acronis TrueImage. Both of these programs should be able to accomplish what you wanted originally there. Image files are meant for speedier "installs". It will be a one to one copy from this 3.2 GB hard drive to another hard drive you want to install the operating system on. Very short reply, No that not what I mean, That 3,2 gb drive will contain install ISOs (windows iso, ubuntu iso, etc) and no hd ISOs. bakr_2k5
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vujsa
Jan 28 2007, 01:32 AM
QUOTE(bakr_2k5 @ Jan 27 2007, 05:23 PM)
Very short reply,
No that not what I mean,
That 3,2 gb drive will contain install ISOs (windows iso, ubuntu iso, etc) and no hd ISOs.
bakr_2k5
An ISO is an image of a drive. Whether it be a hard drive, floppy drive, or optical drive. It is just a file! So, what you are asking makes no sence to the rest of us! I don't mean to be overly blunt but you don't seem to know what you want to ask! Most ISO readers will only look at drive formated as an optical disk, CD or DVD! It seems that you want to store your ISO files on a hard drive. Copy and paste would work for that! If you want to use these ISO's as if they were on optical media, then you need an emulator. Search for: "DVD Drive Emulators" => http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=d...G=Google+Search"Virtual Drives" => http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=V...amp;btnG=SearchMost of these require an OS to operate so, they won't provide a solution in the event that you are trying to create a backup of your system that can be easily installed in the event of a crash! If you are tired of "wasting" cd's/dvd's, then use rewritable disks! If you are concerned with the speed, then you need to take a deep breath and try to imagine the world when we only had 5-1/4 inch floppy drives! Anyhow, you really should try and figure out what it is that you need help with and ask a intellegent question. vujsa
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mastercomputers
Jan 28 2007, 01:56 AM
ISO files are just images of the content they cloned, most likely created from a DVD/CD. I use to boot Live CDs off the Hard Drive. It was simply downloading the ISO, giving it a location: CODE cat name_of_iso.iso > /dev/hda10 Then alter the bootloader to point to the root /dev/hda10. Booting ISOs under NTFS partitions is another story though and since I work mostly under Linux, I never did get round to doing an NTFS ISO boot. Cheers, MC
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iGuest
Nov 9 2007, 10:39 PM
Well, since I have the same question and it looks like maybe only mastercomputers understood it... It is possible to boot from a removable hard drive on many newer computers. What he would like to do is put the .iso file directly in to a partition on the disk, thereby making that partition identical to the CD and bootable as if it were that bootable CD itself. Not copy the files. Not copy a CD to a hard drive. Take a .iso file and 'burn', IE, write it, to a partition on the hard drive, exactly as if it were to a writable CD/DVD. The people complaining about his using the word burn are REALLY missing the point. That's what I'd like to do too and I can't figure out how.
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toby
Nov 12 2007, 05:46 PM
I have a similar question, can you run a live cd iso, or an iso temp, from boot or something like VMware? I don't know what my cd writer can do, not too bothered about that because I know I can use Ubuntu live cds, and dvds.
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docduke
Aug 15 2008, 04:35 AM
Yeah. Funny we all stumbled into this. I expect to take delivery tomorrow of a system that is designed for virtualization, so that this kind of thing can be easily examined. In the meantime, here are some fuzzy impressions I have about these issues: 1. An ISO image is both a data stream and a partition formatting specification. 2. In Linux, the "dd" command is the easy way (but dangerous!) to make an exact copy of a data stream. 3. The reason hard drives, USB drives, etc. have "device drivers" is that the OS wants to know not only what data is on the device, but how is it arranged? The time of only serial data storage (think magnetic tape) is long gone. 4. At least some of the virtualization software in use can boot directly from an ISO image anywhere: on a CD, on a USB or just in a file somewhere on a hard disk. In particular, there are utilities to get from an ISO image to a VMWare transfer image. 5. This stuff is partly black magic. Last night, I followed the directions for installing the System Rescue CD on a USB, and was unable to boot it. Instead, I copied the ISO image onto a CD, and successfully booted this image from a USB CD reader. The images were not the same (the instructions told how to modify the files for the USB boot), so in the future I intend to revisit this project and see exactly what has to be changed to go from a bootable CD image to a bootable USB "image" (more properly: file structure).
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iGuest
Aug 14 2008, 03:52 AM
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Burn Iso To Hd?
Replying to iGuestFunny I stumbled across this Tonight I was rebuilding an older pc my cd/dvd drive went out, for whatever reason...Curiosity...Laziness..I figured if I could extract my iso file (on disk)to an external drive(on disk) and make it bootable I would be able to keep going , I know there is another million ways to keep going but I'm stubborn and wanted to see if I could make the external hd bootable with my choice if iso downloaded via the net basically I want to do exactly what you (iguest ) and (bakr_2k5)suggested. I used the same search terms as bakr_2k5 original post "burn iso to hd" for lack of a better search and got this forum Thanks for the ideas guys! ill try to post back and let you know what I find out... Oh and for you guys that didn't understand the question he asked at first ...Try to open your minds...Don't be so negative -reply by burn_iso2HD
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iGuest
Jul 7 2008, 02:16 PM
I know what u mean
Burn Iso To Hd?
This is a rough guide to 'burn' an iso to a disk, it is a pretty advanced guide and the paths such as /dev/hda1 and (hd0,0) will have to be substituted with what is relivant to your system. Maybe the other users can refine this guide and make it easier to use for beginners, I could even make an interactive script if I could find the time. Make an ext3 partition that can hold the iso, I did 1 gb just to be safe Example: #fdisk /dev/hda ...Make partition -Mount the image and the hd #mkdir hd && mount /dev/hda1 hd #mkdir iso && mount -o loop image.Iso iso -Copy all the files across #cp iso/* hd/* -are -Install grub files (yours may be in a different place) #cd hd #mkdir boot && cd boot && mkdir grub && cd grub #cp /usr/lib/grub/i386*/* ./ -Use your favourite editor to put a file named 'menu.Lst' in that directory containing: " Timeout 30 Default 0 Title Boot From ISO File Root (hd0,0) Kernel /isolinux/vmlinuz0 root=/dev/hda1 Initrd /isolinux/initrd.Gz " -Setup grub #cd ../../.. && umount hd #grub Grub> root (hd0,0) Grub> setup (hd0,0) Grub> quit -Reboot and it should work -reply by LeavingEntropia
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iGuest
May 26 2008, 04:06 PM
I have the same question
Burn Iso To Hd?
It is not too hard to understand: the whole idea is to "burn" (lacking a better term) an iso to an HD or HD partition so that that partition has the same files and boot sector as the iso. -reply by Rodrigo Rollan
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rockershive
Mar 6 2008, 01:17 AM
hey i haven't tried burning an ISO onto a hard drive (call it mount, not burn). You can use Virtual Drives applications to mount ISO on a hard drive, it should be bootable if the ISO file you are mounting a bootable one. These apps can create temporary virtual drives (e.g. partition, CD/DVD drive) where you can place ISO files to be used on specific tasks.
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