Killer008r
Sep 30 2005, 01:54 PM
| | Last year before the new Astahost thingy came up I posted a similar question.
Here is my pc's specs (I upped it alot from last year)
Dual bios Nvida Nforce 4 Mobo (has pci express, and was 100 bucks, which is WONDERFUL)
-Amd 64 3500 (939 pin)
-GForce 7800 Gtx with out vivo hookups
-1gig of ram
-no sound card
-150 GB HD
-Speakers suck (what do you expect with the rest of the computer costing so much)
That is my computers specs (Godly right?) It took me 2 years to save up for that and I actually worked for it, I didn't mooch off of my parents.
What type do you have?
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finaldesign
Sep 30 2005, 02:06 PM
[+] amd duron 1,6 - overclocked to 2,0 ghz [+] Asus mainboard [+] cca. 700 mb ram [+] gainward geforce4 with 64 mb on it [+] 80 gb maxtor hdd [+] DVB-TV pci card [+] thermaltake bigwater cooler [+] MSI case [+] DVD+RW pioneer [+] CD+RW sony [+] LG 710B 17" flatron screen [+] MSI keyboard and mouse [+] Lexmark 650 printer [+] Altec Lansing 2+1 speakers and that's about it... it works fine for me, Im pretty happy with it, but I would love to upgrade MBO, CPU, RAM, and graphics...
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Sarah81
Sep 30 2005, 10:32 PM
Wow - killer machine. I think it's great that you earned the money for it yourself. I'm at a fairly large university that's filled with kids who act like Mom and Dad *owe* them laptops, musical instruments, tuition and fee money, an allowance (allowance?!), etc. It's nice to see someone else who'll go out of his/her way to work for something.
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minnieadkins
Oct 1 2005, 03:13 AM
I'm not too much of a technical wiz. I know enough to get by, but when it comes to motherboards I can't tell the difference. I just know the basics, so here's what I know. P4 2.6 ghz 1 gig ram 120 gb hard drive geforce 4 4800 se * sound blaster live sound card altec lansin speakers * I was wanting to replace my vid card, and was wondering what people around here see as the most efficent/price vid card now days. I'm open to suggestions from cards ranging up to $150-$175 or so. ATI or Nvidia seem to be the 2 major companies competing in the gaming industry (which is all I really need a high end vid card for)
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Jguy101
Oct 1 2005, 04:29 AM
My PC, Bubba....
AMD Athlon64 at 1.8 gigahertz 80-gig hard drive 512 megs of RAM DVD-ROM/CD-RW drive 17" Proview monitor Windows XP Home
....And I also have a Mac, who I've named Maclena. Sadly, her display is fried..... 
600 MHz Motorola PowerPC G3 40 GB hard drive 256 MB of RAM CD-ROM drive built-in 15" monitor Harmon-Kardon Odyssey speaker system (built-in) Mac OS X 10.2
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hazeshow
Oct 1 2005, 08:42 AM
My machine that I'm sitting on right now is: PIII 500Mhz 14 GB Seagate Harddisk 256 MB RAM 40x LG CD-Rom Drive 52x24x52 Benq CD-Burner Nvidia 32 MB Graphis Chip onboard 10/100 Ethernet Card but I have several other machines like 2 IBM Netvistas: P4 2,0Ghz 40 GB IBM Harddisk 512 MB RAM 16xDVD Burner 16 MB Intel Graphics chip onboard 10/100 Ethernet Card But is anybody really interested in what the exact details of other user's machines are? GreetingZ
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unimatrix
Oct 2 2005, 12:33 AM
Dual 1.25 Ghz G4 Power Mac 4GB Ram 23" Apple HD Cinema Display 17" Apple LCD Display Superdrive Creative 5.1 Suround Sound speakers 128 ATi video Card Lightwave 8.3 Final Cut Pro Studio 5 Blender 3D OS X.4 Server (10-Client) (configured as Xgrid Admin & Screamernet II admin) 10 1.25 Ghz G4 Mac Mini's 512MB Ram each Combo Drive Apple Remote Desktop Configured as Xgrid Agents (clustered system) & Screamernet II (lightwave rendering) I've started a small side business on the weekends rendering Lightwave and FCP projects for small video production (mainly wedding video) companies that are behind. Give them a couple firewire 250GB external HDD's, they load their project files and then I render the projects to a master DVD for them at about $50 per project. When they finish editing, they can move onto the next project and in an afternoon I can render 2 - 3 of their back logged projects. Then I have two freelance Lightwave artists that lease so many hours per month to render their medium projects. Same thing, send me the files and let me render so they can move onto the next project. Gives me money to support my RC Airplane and Hockey habbits.
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wutske
Oct 2 2005, 10:26 AM
Abit NF7-s v2.0 AMD AthlonXP Barton 2500+ @2.2Ghz - 2,340Ghz ThermalRight SLK647U + TT Smart Case Fan II 512Mb DDR400-426 2.0-2-3-11 Sapphire R9600PRO 473/324 Maxtor 120Gb SATA Nec 8x DL-DVD+-Rw LiteOn 16x DVD No case Xtra Network Card Aopen 350W PSU Coolermaster AerogateII Works still fine, but when I have money, I'd like to get an X2 and a nV7800
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Retaining
Oct 2 2005, 04:50 PM
Asus A7N8X-Deluxe Mobo Athlon XP 2500+ (Barton) @ 3200+ 512 MB OCZ Gold Series PC3200 DDR RAM Western Digital Raptor 10K RPM SATA HDD MSI Radeon 9800 Pro (O/C'd a little) Some TV tuner card and an old IDE HDD I built it myself a few years back and have slowly been upgrading. I'm getting a second Raptor soon to RAID together and I want to get another stick of RAM sometime soon.
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enve19
Oct 3 2005, 09:44 AM
Im currently running ::733mhz Intel Celeron:: ::64Mb Ram:: ::250MHz custom chip named XGPU, developed by Microsoft and nVIDIA:: ::250Gb Seagate HDD:: And im running Liniux Gentoox. It runs really fast and have had no problems with it what-so-ever. Just in case you didnt know this is an Xbox! I love this, i have everthing i need all in one thing.
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ikenalleenik
Dec 19 2005, 05:50 PM
I'm running on an Xp Pro, with AMD Athlon Xp 2000+ 200 gb HDD 512 mb RAM Ati Radeon 9600 video card i'm thinking of an upgrade to a fast Amd 64b core, but for the moment, i have a money-problem  greetz, Michiel
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lisim
Dec 19 2005, 07:27 AM
QUOTE(sodredge @ Dec 18 2005, 01:26 PM) OMG I looking at all of your setups I really can see that I am on a dinosaur. PIII 600 Mhz 15 GB Bigfoot Drive 256 MB RAM 52x32x52 Sony CD-Burner Nvidia 32 MB Graphis Card 10/100 Ethernet Card About the only cool thing is the case. I tagged it all up and then sprayed a glossy primer on my tag work, so now the computer and the shell of the monitor look like something that should sit right next to an 80's subway car.  got any pics sounds cool i was gona get my gf to do a nice bit of art on my case
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lisim
Dec 19 2005, 07:23 AM
QUOTE(Killer008r @ Sep 30 2005, 01:54 PM) Last year before the new Astahost thingy came up I posted a similar question. Here is my pc's specs (I upped it alot from last year) Dual bios Nvida Nforce 4 Mobo (has pci express, and was 100 bucks, which is WONDERFUL) -Amd 64 3500 (939 pin) -GForce 7800 Gtx with out vivo hookups -1gig of ram -no sound card -150 GB HD -Speakers suck (what do you expect with the rest of the computer costing so much) That is my computers specs (Godly right?) It took me 2 years to save up for that and I actually worked for it, I didn't mooch off of my parents. What type do you have? System 1 P4 650 3.2ghz @ 3.8ghz LGA775 800mhz FSB 2mb L2 Cache Mobo : Gigabyte 8I915Pl-g PSU : Antec 600w Case: Coolmaster CM Memory : 2x 1gb crossair pairs HDD: 4x 200gig WD Sata GFX: (crappy to be upgraded) Shapire X300SE pci-e DVD +- Dual 16x burner System 2 Celeron D 2.8Ghz @ 3ghz 800FSB Mobo : Gigabyte 8I915Pl-g PSU : Antec 600w Case: Coolmaster CM Memory : 2x 1gb crossair pairs HDD: 8x 200gig WD Sata GFX: (crappy to be upgraded) Shapire X300SE pci-e DVD +- Dual 16x burner ( used for friends over and for file storage) crap game wise atm i know getting a new mobo for sys 1 and gettign SLi 7800gtx
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hatim
Dec 18 2005, 05:02 PM
I am running a AMD Athlon 2800+ 2.09 GHz on a Leadtek K7NCR18G-Pro 2 Motherboard...with Kingston 333 Mhz RAMs. The board supports Dual Channel Memory , 333 MHz Front Side Bus. Its a horrible board .I would advise you to stay away from LeadTek Hard Drive is an 80 GB Maxtor ..i dont remeber the details. It has inbuit Nvidia Gforce 4 mx video card. I have three memory modules amounting to 1 gb of RAM ..of which i use 64 Mb for internal VGA. I also have TV in / out tuner radio and firewire and USB 2.0 support. By all means its a kick ass system..but its more targetted for Desktop use and not gaming I also happen to have two SOny VAIO laptops lying around but I use and love my AMD more cause i built it. . here is outout of my cat /proc/cpuinfo processor : 0 vendor_id : AuthenticAMD cpu family : 6 model : 10 model name : AMD Athlon XP 2800+ stepping : 0 cpu MHz : 2088.331 cache size : 512 KB fdiv_bug : no hlt_bug : no f00f_bug : no coma_bug : no fpu : yes fpu_exception : yes cpuid level : 1 wp : yes flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 mmx fxsr sse syscall mmxext 3dnowext 3dnow bogomips : 4180 here are some details of devices nVidia Corporation nForce2 AGP RAM memory: nVidia Corporation nForce2 Memory Controller USB Controller: nVidia Corporation nForce2 USB Controller Ethernet controller: nVidia Corporation nForce2 Ethernet Controller Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation nForce Audio Processing Unit Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation nForce2 AC97 Audio Controler (MCP) (rev a1) nVidia Corporation nForce2 External PCI Bridge (rev a3) IDE interface: nVidia Corporation nForce2 IDE (rev a2) FireWire (IEEE 1394): nVidia Corporation nForce2 FireWire (IEEE 139 4) Controller (rev a3) Multimedia video controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Video Capt ure (rev 11) Multimedia controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Audio Capture (r ev 11) VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX - n Force GPU] (rev a3) as u can see most of system is Nvidia...i wonder why dont they make their own chip and kill AMD and Intel in the gaming market.
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sodredge
Dec 18 2005, 01:26 PM
OMG I looking at all of your setups I really can see that I am on a dinosaur. PIII 600 Mhz 15 GB Bigfoot Drive 256 MB RAM 52x32x52 Sony CD-Burner Nvidia 32 MB Graphis Card 10/100 Ethernet Card About the only cool thing is the case. I tagged it all up and then sprayed a glossy primer on my tag work, so now the computer and the shell of the monitor look like something that should sit right next to an 80's subway car.
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