InitialDriveGTR
Jan 23 2006, 12:28 AM
| | I think it is hilarious that micro$oft is actually publicizing this. I mean, in all honesty, i think that micro$oft exagerated as to how little resources etc. their windows os took, and they probably over exagerated the linux kernel based Os's took (or at least they i think that they would never have publicized this). Personaly, i think that micro$soft should try to implement the linux kernel in the next windows installment (not vista. or at least not yet.). |
Comment/Reply (w/o sign-up)
derouge
Jan 23 2006, 12:41 AM
Wow, interesting. I don't really honestly have the time nor energy to read a 40 page report, but I may download it later and glance through. It's entertaining, at the very least. I've liked Linux so far, and this report might provide even more reasons to stick with it!
Comment/Reply (w/o sign-up)
unimatrix
Jan 23 2006, 06:49 AM
And remind me, how much BSD code does Windows have in it again? Last check there were some major IP/stack and Kernel stuff almost cut and pasted from BSD to Windows NT/2k/XP in the last few years. Sometimes I wonder how Windows can take BSD, screw it up and Apple can take BSD and improve it for the average user...
Comment/Reply (w/o sign-up)
xboxrulz
Jan 24 2006, 12:04 AM
BSD technologies are easily taken due to the licensing issue. That's why I don't like the BSD licence. The basic rule is that as long as you state the author and his copyrights, you can use the code and modify it and slap it to your own system. That's why I prefer the GPL better. GPL doesn't allow that. You can close-source a BSD licenced code. xboxrulz
Comment/Reply (w/o sign-up)
unimatrix
Jan 24 2006, 12:28 AM
which is the exact reason why I like the BSD license. At work, we won't touch GPL with a 10 foot stick even for internal programs. Just like anything we descide to release Opensource goes with the BSD licenese. I will make the arguement that true people that like Opensource for the sake of totally free (as in speech and beer) software go with BSD licensed products. Before I went to work there (and Apple Shake was released) they had a video editing system that was in house and written expressly with NetBSD running on Alpha. The program used some highly intergrated and rewritten kernel processes. It was fair to say that they had written their own OS based on NetBSD designed to compiste scenes and nothing else. It was small light (in terms of ditro size) and allowed the max amount of the CPU to be used for rendering. Actually it is far more effecient that our current systems, but with death of Alpha and rise of Macintosh in UNix land it was decided it would be cheaper and easier to switch to industry standard applications. They were thinking of selling the OS for video production companies still running ALPHA, but like I said, those days are over...poor Alpha... Still, when I release code, I do it under BSD if I don't want to make money from it and I don't really care if someone else does. If they can, good for them, they were smarter than I was or put forth the effort I didn't want too. Hell I'm happy as a lark if someone uses my code. Personally I find that most GPL folks want free beer and don't care so much about the speech part. BSD folk want the freedom of speech, usage, and if you can use it to buy a fine bottle of wine: more power to you! GPL = Freedom of Speech* (please see dislaimer below) BSD = Freedom of Speech* (Just attach the copyright notice please, thank you)
Comment/Reply (w/o sign-up)
xboxrulz
Jan 24 2006, 07:25 PM
well, it's a matter of choice right. For instance, I like everyone to share my code, but I don't like people taking my code and then make money off it. Maybe you like it, but I surely don't  xboxrulz
Comment/Reply (w/o sign-up)
inconnu
Jan 26 2006, 01:54 PM
What is the virtue of publishing this report, from Microsoft's view? It would have been much more interesting to analyze that point than to be blinded by the fact that, in some benchmarks, Windows scores less. Read the whole document, as the original poster suggests, and think over.
Comment/Reply (w/o sign-up)
qwijibow
Jan 26 2006, 02:40 PM
QUOTE What is the virtue of publishing this report, from Microsoft's view? QUOTE Read the whole document, as the original poster suggests, and think over. I think alot of people have comented without reading the article. the article is intented to show that the technology "singularity" will beat all current OS in certain area's. (some ideas sound really good) but in the porcess, they also show linux being able to do some things much ore efficiantly, for example, start new porcess threads. but hey... we never know what linux 3.0 will hold  The actual content of the study compareing current windows with current linux is a little trivial... its like compareing apples and pears and finding some apples are usually more round, and pears are usually less shiny. abut the reason i posted this link, was that it seemed to contradict the GET THE FACTS campain, which shows windows beeing twice as efficiant as linux in web serving.
Comment/Reply (w/o sign-up)
Jeigh
Jan 26 2006, 03:20 PM
I'm glad you people pointed that out, because reading the first page of posts it was bugging me that people seemed to think the whole article was M$ bashing themselves But yes, I would say this study is more reliable then the studies their marketing department uses, since it doesn't make windows look like ambrosia and it's not some random company doing the study as M$ pours dollars in their bank account to ensure 'correct' results :| Whether you like windows or microsoft or not, they aren't stupid. They know how to make themselves look better then they are, but its not like they all believe that... they just pretend to  But the singularity project seems pretty interesting, I didn't read the whole article but read a hadnful of sections that seemed interesting and it's cool that they are putting effort into this.
Comment/Reply (w/o sign-up)
xboxrulz
Jan 26 2006, 04:19 PM
I think by the time singularity comes out, Linux 3.0 would be out. Linux is taking forever to just jump major versions, it's been 10 years, but development is going 1,500 km/s... xboxrulz
Comment/Reply (w/o sign-up)
Similar Topics
Keywords : Ms Admit Windowsxp Sp2 Inferior Bsd Linux Tests- Windows Xp Vs. Linux
- Which one do you prefer? (63)
I personally like Windows XP, and I get a lot of complimentery softwares from my dad who is
associated with Microsoft. It's pretty sweet. I've tried Linux before and don't like it
to much but it beats Apple's operating system. What do you think?...
What Is The Coolest Thing You Can Do In Linux You Cant In Windows Or Mac?
- (12)
Interesting article over at Ubuntu forums: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=399997 ...
Why Still Windows But Ubuntu Linux
- Why still Windows but Ubuntu Linux (6)
Could Linux Become The Dominant Os?
- (14)
According to the author's opinion, the answer is yes (he's a lawyer, from what I can tell).
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/08/17/triumph_of_linux/ The article also contains some
interesting facts about the devious ways in which Microsoft is trying to derail Linux, most recently
through vague legal threats to enforce patents against Linux distributors that it does not partner
with. Personally I think Linux could become the dominant OS, but many, many years from now....
Prove To Me That Linux Is Better (For Gaming)
- For Gaming... :) (21)
Ok here is a challenge to all the hardcore linux folks out there. I will greatly accept the switch
if it can be proven that Games will run as good under linux as they do under windows. Im a windows
guy at heart, but I do work on unix systems at work. Im a gamer, and that will never change. I had
switched over to linux about 4 years ago, and I couldnt play crap on linux without dual booting to
windows. (I think it was Wine emulation they were running under) Now have there been some
improvements in being able to play windows games smoothly on linux? If so, please let me...
How Linux Is Being Subverted
- (0)
Linux is in great danger at the moment. That danger started when Microsoft cut their deal with
Novell. Many open source advocates recognized this and there was a hue and cry over it. This furor
has died down to a large extent and apathy has set in. To combat this the Free Software Foundation
brought out their GPLv3 but this seems to be too little too late.
http://blogs.ittoolbox.com/linux/locutus/a...subverted-18960 ...
Windows, Linux or Mac.
- What do you tink to this sistems (19)
Take your better decision. Windows is good to play and for the ones that pleases them to sacrifice
the power by the facility. On the other hand linux is for all those that pleases them to learn and
to obtain the greater power of its computer. And mac is an excellent one opcion for the ones that
need proprietary software and power graphic....
:p Linux Is Better Than Windows
- :P (13)
/tongue.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":P" border="0" alt="tongue.gif" /> ...
A Great Article For The Criticising Linux Newbies
- (13)
Linux is not windows. http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm This article answers many questions
and surgestions that most linux newbies will ask or surgest at one time or anouther, and does so
really well. I urge everyone who has taken an anti-linux stand in the Windows vs Linux topic to
read this. It has some interesting comparasons between operating systems and cars. foe example, a
car driver sits in a traffic jam, and sees a motorbike cruising past between lanes, from this the
car drivers think that the motorbike may be better than a car, and attempt to ride one...
The Sco Group Failed To Produce Any Evidence That
- Linux contained copyrighted Unix codes (1)
QUOTE The e-mail, which was sent to SCO Group CEO Darl McBride by a senior vice president at
the company, forwards on an e-mail from a SCO engineer. In the Aug. 13, 2002, e-mail, engineer
Michael Davidson said "At the end, we had found absolutely nothing ie (sic) no evidence of any
copyright infringement whatsoever." Finally, Linux wins on this war /biggrin.gif"
style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin.gif" /> sorry, forgot to post the
source http://news.com.com/SCO+e-mail+No+smoking+...ml?tag=nefd.top ...
Windows Vs. Linux, Old, But New?
- (11)
This is quite an old topic, but I am here to relate my experience. I wanted to start a new thread
cause is feel there are many out there like me with similar experiences. But first, a background -
I've been using windows for over 7 years now, right from 95 to xp pro here. (the only version is
skipped was 2000 and me) I have become the proverbial 'guru' in my area - if there was
anything related about computers, it had to be me. Then, I heard about linux. I wanted to try it
out, but was shy. But then, 1 month ago I got an opportunity to test it out when window...
Windows Or Linux
- "DEVELOPERS" Which OS You Prefer? (30)
Hi all, Being a develope Which OS You preffer to work on? Caste ur votes now!...
Linux Vs. Windows
- What do you think? (1)
I want to hear your opinions. Which do you think is the better OS, Microsoft Windows or Linux? And
why do you feel this way? Post here for your comments. As for me, I'm a windows fan, but
I've grown tired of the older versions of Windows. Then again, I haven't actually tried
Linux yet....
Mac, Windows Or Linux?
- (4)
I think they all have good and bad points. Mac: + Few number of viruses, great for graphic
designing, audio recording, video editing... - Compatibility: Many things (especially games) not
available for macs, even though that is slowly changing. Windows: + Good Compatibility, can do
everything: play games, working with graphics, audio, video... - TONS of viruses, some stability
issues. Linux + I haven't tried it, but I have heard it works awesome for servers. Few (or
none) virus. No Hardware compatibility issues. - Quite poor compatibility. Few gr...
Linux Or Windows
- What the Diff. (4)
Hey i was thinking off using Linux. Is this a good choice. Also can someone give me the specs for
linux. I think windows is good but who knows!! /tongue.gif" style="vertical-align:middle"
emoid=":P" border="0" alt="tongue.gif" />...
Windows or Linux
- (100)
Ok people what is your favoroaite oporating system? I personally am a Windows XP fan, but what about
you people...?...
Windows Vs Linux
- (34)
Windows Vs Linux 1-Security is depend on many parameters in per network, and only operating system
can't to meet to cover the security. For example : a few years ago a company employed number
of peoples to search in the papers and rubbishes of Microsoft and find Codes of Microsoft, and
found important information . Then we can see that the security of a network is depend of many
factors that we may don't care about those. Windows and Linux have weaknesses in security, but
because of many users of Windows, naturally the weaknesses of Windows is discoverable...
Looking for ms, admit, windowsxp, sp2, inferior, bsd, linux, tests
|
See Also,
*SIMILAR VIDEOS*
Searching Video's for ms, admit, windowsxp, sp2, inferior, bsd, linux, tests
|
advertisement
|
|