Does God Exist?

Though current evidence supports the possibility of the big bang, theoretically it is a certainty. Before the universe there was nothing? If there was nothingness, it had to be infinate, finite nothingness is not plausible. Infinity in turn must create infinate possibility of infinate things occuring therefore infinate things must have and must still be. If this is true and by all logic it has to be, a singularity did occur, yet at the same time, there is a god, a giant chicken did lay an egg containing the universe and Atlas was forced to hold up the heavans.

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Before you were born; of your own big bang as it were - you were nothing, nonexistent... did you come from an infinite nothingness or a finite nothingness? No. Nothingness is merely an absence of something - finite or infinite can't be attached to it. Nothingness is a human concept. Do not imagine that because we can not peer back beyond the big bang; that means the universe came from nothing. More likely our universe is just one small cyclical system within a much larger whole. For example: If the universe were held within an apple, everyone within that apple universe would be industrially debating whether or not their universe came from nothing - indeed the apple didn't exist before it began to grow upon the tree - but the tree, the system within which the apple formed, had been around for a lot longer. Unable to see that - they assume their apple universe came from nothing. To continue the metaphor; many apples had grown upon it, and many would continue to grow upon it.

We come again to the oldest and most obvious cliché of philosophy; 'what came first, the chicken or the egg?' ... The egg came first. The creatures that evolved into chickens, before they had taken on all the aspects of 'chickeness' were obviously laying eggs, there was never a definite point when an egg was laid by something different and out popped a chicken -- instead, so very slowly and over time, something evolved into a chicken. It would be very hard to find a definite point where this happened. You could slip back in time, and eventually you would come to a point where you could say very definitely that these weren't quite chickens, but these ancestors that weren't quite chickens, obviously, laid eggs. Still, slowly over time chickens may evolve into something else, and they will probably still be laying eggs.

Perhaps, the universe is an egg as it were - a seed laid by an earlier version - but not necessarily. Animals replicate by reproduction - there is no evidence to support that this would be the case with the universe, it could just as easily be an isolated event that occurs now and then due to the maths of the multiverse - like an eclipse - an eclipse is not born of a prior eclipse, it merely happens because the planetary bodies just happen to be set up in the right way. The maths work out, and we get a beautiful eclipse. More likely, the universe & the multiverse, just happen to be set up the right way.

 

 

 

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But this train of thought then eventualy replicates the watchmaker argument.

If you look at a watch, you can easily tell that it was designed and built by an intelligent watchmaker.

Similarly, if you look at some natural phenomenon X (a particular organ or organism, the structure of the solar system, life, the entire universe) you can easily tell that it was designed and built by an intelligent creator/designer.

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Don't forget some "intelligent" things have been made through pure chance and complete accidents eh.

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I really respect the faith of people, if Ala is the name of God in your language(Yave to me) then I believe in Ala.

REALLY EASY
Yes!!! of course, you only have to believe!!!, then you be able to believe in the Holy Bible, and get saved by faith.

WHAT IS HARD?
Is hard to be ignored, killed, injured, etc, etc, because your believes and pray for that souls. Is hard to believe in a hidden God and be named: lunatic, ignorant, and bless those mocking. But that is love, your most powerful weapon is: to pray. God is Powerfulness and he have control of everything.

SCIENCE IS IGNORANT
Human have a very very very limited brain. Our capacity to process the nature of God is impossible, like an ant can't understand human businesses, human can't understand God. You only have to wait for his mercy, thats what I do, and that is what works for me.

CAN'T BELIEVE
Trust

Blessings!

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I doubt ants would even care what we do, or how we do it......

There too busy running there own lives to sit around wondering about what's above them lol.

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I believe in God (Christian), but it seems that whether are different gods, it just turns out the same. gods asks us to give certain offerings, be morally upright, and to be basically good. Religion is hardest to explain because there is this little gap-filler called faith. Faith requires you to believe without doubt, making it even harder to understand.

Anyways, I think religion is just there to explain things that science can't.

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God is comforting, born of our need to pretend that when we die we continue to exist. But what is comforting and what is true are two different things. When someone sees design in the world around them, and they reject the scientific explanation for these designs, it is clearly so that they can pretend that these are evidence of a designer, and that there must be a god, and that there is a comforting afterlife to look forward to. The reason there is such a big debate between science and religion, is not because science is wrong: it's because the current religions have such a flimsy back story, written by men thousand of years ago, that like witches / elves / unicorns / magic - and all the other figments of the primitive ages - science reveals them for what they are - and those who wish to draw comfort in religion fight it because they are terrified by the new light shone upon their comforting religion.

Remember the Egyptians believed in their gods, just as fanatically as anybody believes in their god today. You think they were wrong. But what about the Africans and the native Indians, the Hindus, Buddhists, The Romans, The Greeks, The Aztecs, The Gauls, and they all believed in there gods or explanation just as you believe in yours. And once everyone's forgotten about your religion, and they are on to the next one, your religion joins the above list as all religions will eventually do, once they go defunct. Were all the people who believed these religions wrong? I doubt it. They were all equally valid, made up to comfort the people, and believed just as strongly.

So if you want something comforting, why don't you just make up something that fits with science, and then you wouldn't have to make a fool of yourself debating about science being wrong every time science accidentally swipes the legs from under your small god.

You should take up astronomy... find out how vast the universe is... how ancient... and you would see that there is no god in the words of man that compares to the magnificence of the universe in all its natural beauty, nor does it need a god, it just is.

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I don't see scientists running around blowing themselves up in trains and planes... I don't see scientists burning Harry Potter books because it's got witchcraft in it... I've never heard of scientists hunting innocent old ladies and then drowning them in the river to see if they were a witch... I've never heard of quantum physicists mounting holy crusades against classical physicists... I've never heard of scientists do anything other than do their job. Religion is ignorant. There have been more wars and death and blood at the hands of religion than anything else in this world, and you have the cheek to say that science is ignorant? Religion isn't just ignorant; it encourages ignorance... it encourages people to hand over their money to an institution in exchange for something that doesn't really exist, and holds people back. And right now religion is whimpering like a dog while science takes a torch to the dark mysterious caverns of religion... revealing them to be utterly empty. I'm a Hindu, and an atheist. I don't need to attack science because, quite frankly, if religion depends on ignorance - then I would much rather be a heathen, and at least see the universe for what it is, in all its true magnificence.

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http://web.genarts.com/karl/panspermia.html

Obviously no one is going to point to the picture above and say, that was designed by god. Because we all know it wasn't - it was evolved - inside a computer. It's part of an artificial evolution study. Evolution works - clearly - and is capable of producing all the complicated structures and organs that creationists want to believe are proof of design.

Below is an ultra efficient antenna that NASA evolved.

http://www.nebo.edu/misc/learning_resource...lace/index.html

Clearly evolution works, and needs no designer.

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