Does God Exist?

Science needs proof. The hypothesis of a big ball of coal was derived from the hot Sun full of energy and the knowledge that time. The proof was sun itself and according to science you can derive hypothesis from current knowledge and when the knowledge advances you still have to check whether the hypothesis is right. When science advanced it was proven that sun is not made of coal. So science needs proof and it evolves too.
Science evolves with time just like we all did. Science don’t go by “some one told so” it goes by “show me how” .

Some of the people you mentioned (Manu and others) were scientists back then and they wrote the books best to their knowledge. Modern science does not discard any theories because they are old or religious. All theories are welcome if there is evidence to prove that. The concept of life cycles is proven in modern science it is proven by studying old rocks and deep inside earth.

This is just my personal opinion. I don’t intend to hurt anybody’s feelings. I am sorry if any one felt that way because of my comments.

 

 

 

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Yeah of course i think that God exists, cause in my life i{ve got so many good experiences thsnks god.

God bless u all

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I haven't had so many great experiences, does that mean he doesn't exist LOL.

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I think God exists. If not, then who created everything? There has to be some type of "higher power" or, in other words...God.

People say "Show me evidence that God exists, then I'll believe it."

Well, I say "Show me evidence that God doesn't exist, then I'll THINK about changing my beliefs.

Anyone agree?

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Not really because if god created everything else, who created god?

The question is never ending, even the first time I ever thought about that, it was the first thing that came to mind.

EDIT: And for those that love the "he just was" line well here is mine "we just were", same logic.

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Really good point there. As you said, the question is never ending. We will just have to wait and let time tell.

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Yeah pretty much lol.

Finding out where it all started would be by no means a simple task, the very thought of it makes my head hurt .

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I really can't agree more. You would just cause a major migraine trying to solve this puzzle. If it's meant to be solved, it will be solved in it's own time. Whenever that is.

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Hold the bus here!

There's a lot of talk about scientific proof going on here, and it must be said, right here and now, with great emphasis upon this fact before it continues:

There is no such thing as scientific proof

A theory can be supported, but it can never be proven. This is why:

You come up with the hypothesis that all swans are white. You select a sample of 100 lakes and monitor them, observing and writing down the colour of every single swan you see. After three months you have recorded 37,343 sightings of swans and they are all white. That supports your theory that all swans are white, but it doesn't prove that all swans are white. You can sit a a million lakes for a million years, and observe ten trillion swans, and even if they are all white, you still haven't proven that all swans are white, you have only supported your theory that all swans are white. Why?

Because all it would take is for one person to observe a pink swan, or a black swan, and your theory is instantly disproven.

So you see, you can disprove a theory, but you can never prove a theory.

Science is not about proving anything. Science is about building a model of how the world works (called a theory). A theory is incredibly useful, it lets us understand the universe from a particular point of view. A spaceship can be accurately sent to anywhere in the solar system using nothing more than Newton's equations to plan its trajectory. Even though we know Newton's theory doesn't explain everything, and Einstein demonstrated that Newton's equations break down at larger distances, the later theories allowed us to understand when and when not to use the earlier theory - just as the earlier theories allowed us to get to the later ones. When the model is shown to be wrong, the theory is adapted, thrown out, or moved aside. Scientific progress is about paradigm shifts towards greater understanding.

So please, before using science to try and further an argument, at least try to understand what science really is.

And while on the topic of god, my own personal belief is that 6 million years ago our monkey ancestors began to eat the Tabernanthe iboga roots. At this time we came down from the trees and began to wander the plains of Africa, while our primary food source was meat, our back teeth adapted for grinding which suggests that we were eating these roots as a secondary food source. This is very interesting, since these roots contain indolic alkaloids, especially ibogaine, which is supposedly the compound responsible for hallucinogenic effects. Fascinating.

100 thousand years ago, mankind arrived in his current form, although his intelligence was a bit iffy, only 30 thousand years ago was there a great spark of creativity and you start seeing necklaces, art, better tools... so with all this creativity and thought about what the universe is all about then obviously someone is going to suggest a "creator". So someone jumped in that and became the creator's representative for the tribe (witchdoctor / holy-man), because that gave him power. Then when tribes became villages and the witchdoctors got themselves organized they became priests in the villages and towns, and they did so because it gave them power and wealth. Because humans came from nothing, they get all attached to consciousness (cogito ergo sum), and they can't cope with the ultimate finality of death, so a psychological process kicks in called Cognitive Dissonance, where they rationalize death away by clinging to what the holy-men are saying (to make a quick buck), because that makes the thought of death bearable...

I'm a Hindu. So I believe everyone is entitled to hold their own belief system and worship as many (or as few) gods as they want, as long as they don't try to force people into their religion, or staying in their religion (not pointing any elbows). I look forward to the day when children are raised as non-religious and given the choice to pick the one (or none) that suits them when they come of age. Alas that is unlikely since I see a lot of kids who are brought up with the same beliefs as their parents, without ever being given the opportunity to question these assumptions.

So to come back to the point, I gaze at the universe and I see a beautiful and terrifying natural phenomenon; one that is all the more wondrous for the fact that complicated beings such as us evolved and are now able to admire it.

 

 

 

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Science can only prove so much. Their are many things that can't be explained. That's were religion comes in. Religion helps to explain the unexplainable. Though the Big Bang Theory best describes what happened to create the universe:

The Big Bang is a cosmological model of the universe whose primary assertion is that the universe started from a tremendously dense and hot state, and has been expanding ever since. The term is also used in a narrower sense to describe the fundamental 'fireball' that erupted at or close to time t=0 in the history of the universe.

Observational evidence for the Big Bang includes the analysis of the spectrum of light from galaxies, which reveal a shift towards longer wavelengths proportional to each galaxy's distance in a relationship described by Hubble's law. Combined with the assumption that observers located anywhere in the universe would make similar observations (the Copernican principle), this suggests that space itself is expanding. Extrapolation of this expansion back in time yields a state in the distant past in which the universe was in a state of immense density and temperature. This hot, dense state is the key premise of the Big Bang. Observations now place the age of the universe at around 13.7 billion years.

Theoretical support for the Big Bang comes from mathematical models, called Friedmann models, which show that a Big Bang is consistent with general relativity and with the cosmological principle, which states that the properties of the universe should be independent of position or orientation.

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