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Read Latest Entries..: (Post #18) by tansqrx on Oct 31 2005, 05:22 AM.
Preach it again akijikan.It is hard to imagine someone would thing that something as complex as an OS should not have to be upgraded. The simple fact is this; we are still in the infancy of software development. Compared to other inventions of mankind, computers and therefore the software that runs on them has had one of the most explosive growths in history. Most people were not even exposed to a computer until Windows 95. Wow that was only 10 years ago. There is still much to be learned a...
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Xp Service Pack 3

darkool
Microsoft confirms that will realease a new Service Pack for windows Xp after the lauch of windows vista. This service pack will improve the security.

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jedipi
Yea, i just read a news about this sp3 on C|Net news.com.
It will be available sometime next year.
this should be a good move.
I am expecting new functions in this upgrade rather than just bugs fixed

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hazeshow
Well I'm not a prophet, but I'm sure that they will release a Service Pack for Windows Vista too, and a then a patch for the security holes in the Service Pack, and then another Service Pack. Oh I really wish they would release their software after it's finnished and not before. mad.gif

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Moody
I don't know, i think sp2 is only anoying sometimes. Ofcourse it makes windows safer, but all the warnings and double askings are really bothering me sometimes....so I hope this isn't get worse in sp3

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Sarah81
QUOTE(darkool @ Oct 2 2005, 08:41 AM)
Microsoft confirms that will realease a new Service Pack for windows Xp after the lauch of windows vista. This service pack will improve the security.
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good - we could use some better security on these systems.

Then again ... how many patches and fixes will they release shortly afterward to "fix" SP3? Hehe.

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firen
i guess sp3 may add windows xp some features from vista

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Mahanon
I hope that it not only makes the security for Windows better but I hope that it will also fix some bugs in Service Pack 2.

But how long will it be until Microsoft starts releasing patches and fixes for their Service Pack 3, I'm sure that everyone is awaiting that as well.

Hopefully it will come with several new features to it.....

But the real problem with this coming out is how long do you actually need to wait to install it if you remember when Service Pack 2 came along it caused some major problems with computers sometimes it was fixable other times if forced you to reformate your computer and if you didn't have anything backed up you were just completely out of luck.

Maybe this time it will not cause this problem but I'm betting that it will, because of the simple fact they try to get it out as quickly as possible not really ensuring that it will function properly.

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sparx
Not that it would matter to the people who frequent these forums (or is it fora?), but MS will likely deploy some sort of authentication check before the installation of the Service Pack is allowed to proceed. Any takers for how long it'll take crackers to post a work-around?

Remember the Windows Genuine Advantage premise which doesn't allow a user to use the updates until they prove that their copy of Windows is genuine? I do believe a simple javascript work-around let users update their machine without too much of a fuss.

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abhiram
This is crazy!!! I thought sp2 was the final service pack that they were going to release and that they weren't going to release any more 'service packs' other than regular updates. Dam... when will M$ ever give a standard completed OS? Why don't they just forget Vista and sit down and plug all the holes in XP first?

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hatim
Well as for MS they will always say that this must be it. Cause they have put all "EFFORT" into getting every thing fixed. But Software is a fluid businees. Things change very rapidly...and ofcourse when a new SP comes it also causes new problems.

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tansqrx
Preach it again akijikan.

It is hard to imagine someone would thing that something as complex as an OS should not have to be upgraded. The simple fact is this; we are still in the infancy of software development. Compared to other inventions of mankind, computers and therefore the software that runs on them has had one of the most explosive growths in history. Most people were not even exposed to a computer until Windows 95. Wow that was only 10 years ago. There is still much to be learned about this beast called software. From as little as we do know, updates and security patches are going to be a way of life. From this point on, if a piece of software over 100 lines long does not get an update at least once a year, most likely you are a sitting duck to be hacked.

Think of it this way. There is a software engineering term referred to as defect per line of code, usually per 1000 lines of code. A defect could be anything from a bad loop condition to a security hole. A very good software project will have maybe 1.5 defects/KSLOC. Lets say you even have really really good QA and it gets down to .5 defects/KSLOC. Now think of how many millions of lines of code Windows XP has in it (around 40M)

40,000,000/1,000=40,000 SLOC
40,000*.5=20,000 defects

There could be as many as 20,000 defect in Windows XP. If even 10% (2,000) are exploitable then you will need a patch immediately. This is for an extremely well written piece of code. If you have ever written code you will much better appreciate this paradox. Code is a very hard thing to create and putting code out without patches is a thing of the past.

P.S. akijikan, you sound quite educated in this area, any comments would be appreciated.

P.P.S. This does not include bugs introduced with patches or other upgrades such as new functionality.

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akijikan
QUOTE(hazeshow @ Oct 2 2005, 09:25 AM)
Oh I really wish they would release their software after it's finnished and not before.  mad.gif
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Oh I wish you wouldn't display such an ignorant view of the software development process.

I'm not exactly the pro-microsoft guy so forgive the apologetics, but the whole idea of "releasing software after it's finished" is a whole bunch of bull.

Software is constantly being improved. Look how often open-source software is updated or new versions are available for download.

Most serious Linux distros have an update system: apt-get, portage, yast...

But I'm willing to best that you wouldn't slam them, only the big evil Microsoft.

The software is not incomplete, features are just added. What's the difference between an update and a service pack? A name. That's about it.

The popular open-source alternative to Internet Explorer, Firefox has new versions released often. What's the diference between that and what Microsoft does with service packs? One is a whole new program, one modifies an existing program. More often than not, the "whole new program" is just like the older one except for a few <i>updates</i>. The only difference is installing a whole program to get them. So it in essence the same thing as what Microsoft does. Does that make Firefox incomplete? No, just means there's an improvement.

The day your software is complete is the day you're a stale programmer.

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JungulSouljah
If they stopped making service packs and 'upgrades' then Windows would be hacked to hell...o wait it already has... biggrin.gif
And .... I'm wondering how many problems this SP3 will create this time.... huh.gif

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hahoangthoa
Since today, i think SP3 isn't available, just a plant !

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nctspawn
As I believe that WinXP SP3 was a combination of all small service pack into 1 big files and they named it Service Pack 3. Mostly all the small updates that u can find in microsoft website is there inside the SP3. If u update ur windows xp regulary, i dun think u will need this SP3.

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